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Krimsa's photo
Sun 08/10/08 10:55 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 08/10/08 10:55 AM




i could careless if you agree or not and im not angry your the one who called names first. you called me a idiot, you started it but could careless

I never called you an idiot..I asked you if "stop being an idiot" is what I should say to the guys that try to change things about me..You jumped ME after I said that..so actually,you started it.huh


Sounds like a miscommunication. He thought you called him an idiot, so he defended himself. You thought he was overreacting since you didn't actually insult him, so you responded.

No harm, no foul.

Back to the topic...LadyOfMagic, I'm curious do you think that nothing should be changed about a person, by themselves, in a relationship, ever?

The only thing that should be changed in a relationship are the things that are physical harmful to someone..If you like to drunk and drive..yes your partner has the right to say something..if you like to get high and drive..yup they should speak up..but things like "Well I like red heads..will you dye your hair red for me?"..Or..I like tall girls..will you wear heels even if you yourself don't like them?..um..Nope..don't think so.



But thats what I had said. I used smoking as an example and I thought you disagreed with me?

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Sun 08/10/08 10:56 AM


The only thing that should be changed in a relationship are the things that are physical harmful to someone..If you like to drunk and drive..yes your partner has the right to say something..if you like to get high and drive..yup they should speak up..but things like "Well I like red heads..will you dye your hair red for me?"..Or..I like tall girls..will you wear heels even if you yourself don't like them?..um..Nope..don't think so.


Well those are both pretty extreme examples. The first two are very significant, the other two are absolutely trivial. What about something like the person's habits such as something sort of in the middle...like they don't think that cleaning the kitchen is necessary, even though it attracts roaches. Or their driving is really fast and their significant other asks them to be a bit more careful. Or they don't spend any time supporting their significant other's activities.

Would any of those be acceptable in your opinion?



WOW! VERY GOOD EXAMPLES!!

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:00 AM


The only thing that should be changed in a relationship are the things that are physical harmful to someone..If you like to drunk and drive..yes your partner has the right to say something..if you like to get high and drive..yup they should speak up..but things like "Well I like red heads..will you dye your hair red for me?"..Or..I like tall girls..will you wear heels even if you yourself don't like them?..um..Nope..don't think so.


Well those are both pretty extreme examples. The first two are very significant, the other two are absolutely trivial. What about something like the person's habits such as something sort of in the middle...like they don't think that cleaning the kitchen is necessary, even though it attracts roaches. Or their driving is really fast and their significant other asks them to be a bit more careful. Or they don't spend any time supporting their significant other's activities.

Would any of those be acceptable in your opinion?

eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww@roaches..the kitchen don't have to be so spotless that "I" could eat off it..I just don't want the roaches eating off it either..lol.You spill something,get it up but its not something that gotta be done on schedule.I got way more to worry about than if the kitchen is spotless..lol..and I don't think that couples have to enjoy EVERY activity together..I love things that I KNOW guys aren't gonna like and I'm more than happy to go off and do them alone while he does his thing.

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Sun 08/10/08 11:03 AM
personally i could give a crap if any one thought i was perfect for them if they want to be with me fine..if not who cares if i find someone here thats fine ..if not dont care life is too short to care what others think of me i know who iam i know i have alot of good qualities and a bad habit like smoking my choice,im a good hearted person that has alot to offer a good hearted woman ..the main thing i ask is that she loves to take care of her man if thats too much to ask bye..as far as being perfect ..no im not but there again dont care i wasnt made to be as far as someone else saying theyre perfect well they cant be because they already showed the propensity to lie by saying they are perfect ..dont like what i have to say once again DONT care ..rather than search for perfection we should serach for someone who treats us with love kindness and understanding ...thats perfect enough for me ....jmo

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Sun 08/10/08 11:05 AM

eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww@roaches..the kitchen don't have to be so spotless that "I" could eat off it..I just don't want the roaches eating off it either..lol.You spill something,get it up but its not something that gotta be done on schedule.I got way more to worry about than if the kitchen is spotless..lol..and I don't think that couples have to enjoy EVERY activity together..I love things that I KNOW guys aren't gonna like and I'm more than happy to go off and do them alone while he does his thing.


I understand that separate identities are important to a relationship. But take your comment about keeping the kitchen clean enough to avoid roaches. Consider the following situation:

You are with a wonderful man. You and he have a great relationship and seem to connect on many deep levels. There are very few things that you dislike about him, and of all of these things, you don't want or expect him to change any. Except one. In the kitchen, he makes a mess by often spilling crumbs and sauce on the countertop and floor. He never cleans it up, and has specifically stated that he doesn't think it's important. Although you don't need the kitchen to be immaculately clean, you definitely dislike roaches. Over the past few weeks, his messes have begun to attract roaches.

In this scenario, do you think that it would be inappropriate for you to ask him to "change" by starting to clean up after himself? Would you think it is unreasonable to expect him to change? Do you think that it's reasonable to simply dump the relationship over this issue, because you wouldn't ever want to ask him to change anything about himself?

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:06 AM

personally i could give a crap if any one thought i was perfect for them if they want to be with me fine..if not who cares if i find someone here thats fine ..if not dont care life is too short to care what others think of me i know who iam i know i have alot of good qualities and a bad habit like smoking my choice,im a good hearted person that has alot to offer a good hearted woman ..the main thing i ask is that she loves to take care of her man if thats too much to ask bye..as far as being perfect ..no im not but there again dont care i wasnt made to be as far as someone else saying theyre perfect well they cant be because they already showed the propensity to lie by saying they are perfect ..dont like what i have to say once again DONT care ..rather than search for perfection we should serach for someone who treats us with love kindness and understanding ...thats perfect enough for me ....jmo

THAT's what I'm lookin for!..where are those guys?!?!laugh

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:09 AM
Edited by LadyOfMagic on Sun 08/10/08 11:11 AM


eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww@roaches..the kitchen don't have to be so spotless that "I" could eat off it..I just don't want the roaches eating off it either..lol.You spill something,get it up but its not something that gotta be done on schedule.I got way more to worry about than if the kitchen is spotless..lol..and I don't think that couples have to enjoy EVERY activity together..I love things that I KNOW guys aren't gonna like and I'm more than happy to go off and do them alone while he does his thing.


I understand that separate identities are important to a relationship. But take your comment about keeping the kitchen clean enough to avoid roaches. Consider the following situation:

You are with a wonderful man. You and he have a great relationship and seem to connect on many deep levels. There are very few things that you dislike about him, and of all of these things, you don't want or expect him to change any. Except one. In the kitchen, he makes a mess by often spilling crumbs and sauce on the countertop and floor. He never cleans it up, and has specifically stated that he doesn't think it's important. Although you don't need the kitchen to be immaculately clean, you definitely dislike roaches. Over the past few weeks, his messes have begun to attract roaches.

In this scenario, do you think that it would be inappropriate for you to ask him to "change" by starting to clean up after himself? Would you think it is unreasonable to expect him to change? Do you think that it's reasonable to simply dump the relationship over this issue, because you wouldn't ever want to ask him to change anything about himself?

If he can over look my disabilities or my abilities and love me as a person and a woman..he can go and buy up the whole Raid Roach Spray display at kmart and its all good.

Riding_Dubz's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:16 AM
Depends what are we talking here,


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soxfan94's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:17 AM

If he can over look my disabilities or my abilities and love me as a person and a woman..he can go and buy up the whole Raid Roach Spray display at kmart and its all good.


But he's still "changed" from not caring about roaches to suddenly caring about them because of you, hasn't he?

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:22 AM


If he can over look my disabilities or my abilities and love me as a person and a woman..he can go and buy up the whole Raid Roach Spray display at kmart and its all good.


But he's still "changed" from not caring about roaches to suddenly caring about them because of you, hasn't he?

Going and buying Raid so that I can spray the bugs that popped up because the kitchen is covered in bugs is changing?..I hardly believe that anybody wants to just sit there while bugs crawl all over them..They aren't gonna stay in the kitchen..I'm not asking him to spray them..I'll do that..but yeah its coming out of his pocket.laugh

metalhead1969's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:27 AM
only thing i'd change is to quit smokin, cuz i'm doin that anyway...

BrooklineBaby's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:27 AM

The perfect guy/girl for you but then she/he started bringing up things about YOU that THEY didn't like..and actually asked you to change them..would you do it?huh



Depends on what they were.............

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:28 AM

only thing i'd change is to quit smokin, cuz i'm doin that anyway...

Good for you!

Krimsa's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:28 AM
So let me get this straight. You do or do not agree with me that if a partner wanted you to change a bad habit such as smoking that this would be acceptable to you and it would be a good choice to pursue. I’m confused because I made this comment at nearly the beginning of the thread and you seemed to overlook it or argue. Now it’s okay?

metalhead1969's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:30 AM


only thing i'd change is to quit smokin, cuz i'm doin that anyway...

Good for you!

thxbiggrin
it's not havin those last 4 that's hard as hell... frustrated frustrated frustrated

soxfan94's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:30 AM

..I hardly believe that anybody wants to just sit there while bugs crawl all over them..


^ Excerpted.

I agree it seems crazy that anyone would truly not care that much. But what if he really didn't care? And it drove you up a wall? Wouldn't you be open to the thought of him deciding that it was disgusting? Sure, he would be "changing", but wouldn't it be an improvement, without having to alter his personality or lifestyle in any significant way? That's my point...that not all change is bad.

littleike's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:30 AM




i could careless if you agree or not and im not angry your the one who called names first. you called me a idiot, you started it but could careless

I never called you an idiot..I asked you if "stop being an idiot" is what I should say to the guys that try to change things about me..You jumped ME after I said that..so actually,you started it.huh


Sounds like a miscommunication. He thought you called him an idiot, so he defended himself. You thought he was overreacting since you didn't actually insult him, so you responded.

No harm, no foul.

Back to the topic...LadyOfMagic, I'm curious do you think that nothing should be changed about a person, by themselves, in a relationship, ever?

The only thing that should be changed in a relationship are the things that are physical harmful to someone..If you like to drunk and drive..yes your partner has the right to say something..if you like to get high and drive..yup they should speak up..but things like "Well I like red heads..will you dye your hair red for me?"..Or..I like tall girls..will you wear heels even if you yourself don't like them?..um..Nope..don't think so.
and this is what ive been saying

soxfan94's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:31 AM



only thing i'd change is to quit smokin, cuz i'm doin that anyway...

Good for you!

thxbiggrin
it's not havin those last 4 that's hard as hell... frustrated frustrated frustrated


I second the compliment. Focus on the positives that you're getting from losing the addiction, that can be a good motivator.
Good luck!

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:31 AM

So let me get this straight. You do or do not agree with me that if a partner wanted you to change a bad habit such as smoking that this would be acceptable to you and it would be a good choice to pursue. I’m confused because I made this comment at nearly the beginning of the thread and you seemed to overlook it or argue. Now it’s okay?

No...smoking is a bad thing and SHOULD be stopped..because not only will it end up killing THEM but you as well if you're around the person when they're doing it and yes that is a deal breaker for me if they refuse to stop..Sorry..I'm gettin kinda lost myself here..lol

metalhead1969's photo
Sun 08/10/08 11:33 AM




only thing i'd change is to quit smokin, cuz i'm doin that anyway...

Good for you!

thxbiggrin
it's not havin those last 4 that's hard as hell... frustrated frustrated frustrated


I second the compliment. Focus on the positives that you're getting from losing the addiction, that can be a good motivator.
Good luck!

thx dude
i do, they contributed to me losin my site once, won't do it again...