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Bushidobillyclub
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Fri 08/08/08 08:24 AM
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To me peace is more then the opposite of war.
To me peace is mindfulness. It is having compassion for each of every living creature that shares a bond of life with you. After all every living creature under our wonderful life giving sun share genes, and DNA with you and me. |
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That's a personal sense of peace, which I wouldn't have associated with war in the first place.
Peace is a goal not a location. Peace is an absence of conflict, where changes are mutual and beneficial to all parties. Now I sound all flowery. |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Fri 08/08/08 08:41 AM
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You are so right!
What I tried to express is that conflict can exist in more then the physical. Conflicting beliefs . . . conflicting emotions . . . conflicting sensations. ect. . . . peace means to remove all conflict. Peace for one, peace for all. Not just for those you deem worthy. I wish peace for my dog, I wish peace for every living being. Every thought. Sadly I like everyone is not perfect and so find many things in conflict every moment . . . the first step to truly knowing your conflict is mindfulness. I do agree with you, but in addition to a goal it is also a journey. It is indeed beneficial to all living parties. |
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To me peace is more then the opposite of war. To me peace is mindfulness. It is having compassion for each of every living creature that shares a bond of life with you. After all every living creature under our wonderful life giving sun share genes, and DNA with you and me. Peace is definitely a state of mind. I remember an old political science professor of mine once asked us to define peace. My reply was 'peace is internal bliss'. Needless to say, I got a C in that class that term lol |
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In my line of work peace is the ability to stand down and let the other side win. I find peace in surrendering.
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Peace, as defined in the Bible, would be rest. Peace can be found when alone or among others, but peace means a cessation from all work and worry.
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Fri 08/08/08 01:44 PM
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This is not really about the definition of peace, but what peace means to you.
We could easily look for a Websters definition, but that would not tell us anything about the person. In my line of work peace is the ability to stand down and let the other side win. I find peace in surrendering. Your profile make it seem like your in IT, thats what I do, so its odd to me that I really am not sure what you mean here, id love to have you elaborate.
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To me peace is more then the opposite of war. To me peace is mindfulness. It is having compassion for each of every living creature that shares a bond of life with you. After all every living creature under our wonderful life giving sun share genes, and DNA with you and me. I agree wholeheartedly 
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This is not really about the definition of peace, but what peace means to you. We could easily look for a Websters definition, but that would not tell us anything about the person. Well, I think that the Biblical definition of peace is the best I have heard. Hence, I believe that true peace is impossible in this world. No matter how much money or power you have, you will always have worries and work to be done. The closest I can get to true peace is floating on calm water, listening to the birds sing, while watching a bobber and hoping that it doesn't jerk. |
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This is not really about the definition of peace, but what peace means to you. We could easily look for a Websters definition, but that would not tell us anything about the person. In my line of work peace is the ability to stand down and let the other side win. I find peace in surrendering. Your profile make it seem like your in IT, thats what I do, so its odd to me that I really am not sure what you mean here, id love to have you elaborate. I'm afraid you have confused me with RainbowTrout. |
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This is not really about the definition of peace, but what peace means to you. We could easily look for a Websters definition, but that would not tell us anything about the person. Well, I think that the Biblical definition of peace is the best I have heard. Hence, I believe that true peace is impossible in this world. No matter how much money or power you have, you will always have worries and work to be done. The closest I can get to true peace is floating on calm water, listening to the birds sing, while watching a bobber and hoping that it doesn't jerk. I find as I work my body harder and harder, I gain mental peace, so I would have to say such a simple definition does not quantify the true meaning, but I will certainly accept that as your definition. I just believe there is more to it then that myself
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Edited by
Maybeher
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Sun 08/10/08 09:25 PM
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To me peace is more then the opposite of war. To me peace is mindfulness. It is having compassion for each of every living creature that shares a bond of life with you. After all every living creature under our wonderful life giving sun share genes, and DNA with you and me. Its a good start I think that peace passes all understanding which I cant explain what true peace is unless I have it spirtually. Which I have but not always peace can be taken away for awhile.(because of enemies) God has all the peace (He is peace) You got to remember to ask for it. Hope that is ok? MaybeHer PS ALL the other ideas of peace are good ideas of peace too. |
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To me peace is more then the opposite of war. To me peace is mindfulness. It is having compassion for each of every living creature that shares a bond of life with you. After all every living creature under our wonderful life giving sun share genes, and DNA with you and me. Its a good start I think that peace passes all understanding which I cant explain what true peace is unless I have it spiritually. Which I have but not always peace can be taken away for awhile. God has all the peace (He is peace) You got to remember to ask for it. Hope that is ok? MaybeHer Ahh I like that! |
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To me peace is more then the opposite of war. To me peace is mindfulness. It is having compassion for each of every living creature that shares a bond of life with you. After all every living creature under our wonderful life giving sun share genes, and DNA with you and me. Its a good start I think that peace passes all understanding which I cant explain what true peace is unless I have it spiritually. Which I have but not always peace can be taken away for awhile. God has all the peace (He is peace) You got to remember to ask for it. Hope that is ok? MaybeHer Ahh I like that! WHY thank you and that was peacfull to hear.lol MaybeHer |
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peace is a state of being in the heart only made perfect by God, and that would be personal for each. For of a certainty, were God's presence in one's heart be manifest fruitfully there would be no inner struggle and the outward expression would strive to reveal the mutual respect and dignity that the community of man longs to perfect as a community and a big family all of the same moral cloth and fiber in health, good will, and faithfulness too all endeavors.
Appeasement , on the other hand , is often mistaken for peace, but it is a short lived excitement void of the trust and respect and honor and integrity accompanying true peace. In terms of war and peace, that is a bi-polar distinction, in my judgement. Consensus then being some middle ground. Appeasement, that. Common sense then is not peace. Nor does it establish peace in the heart. 
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Peacefulness is an inner sense of calm - it comes from becoming still - in order to reflect and meditate on our inner wisdom and receive answers. A peaceful heart is one that is free from worry and trouble. It's becoming quiet so we can look at things quietly so we can more clearly understand them and thus come up with creative solutions. It is learning to live in the present.
A smile is the beginning of peace - smiless  |
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I agree that peace is a state of being, it's certainly not a goal.
However, personal peace can be had at any time even in the midst of chaos. Peace is determined by how you percieve and evaluate your surroundings. Clearly it's easier to find peace when your surroundings are peaceful. And it would be almost impossible to find peace if you are being tormented by another entitry, be it human, animals, or nature. Although, it is actually possible to find peace even in the midst of pain. I think peace is nothing more than acceptance of your surroundings. This is why it is easier to find peace when your surroundings are easy to accept. I don't think its possible to give another person peace for the very reason that peace is in their perception and it's not possible to control another person's perception fully. To instill peace in others the only thing that can be done is to provide them with an environment that is hopefully pleasing to them. However, if they are focused on external worries or concerns that are not immediate to the environment, then it's all for naught. It's not possible for control the peace in another. Ultimate we can only be responsible for our own peace. Of course, it is quite possible to disturb and disrupt the peace of others by causing their environment to become uncomfortable or forcing anything upon them that they may deem to be undesirable. So while we can't ensure their peace, we can certainly disrupt it. I personally don't think that peace necessarily needs to be lethargic. I think a person can find peace in the middle of chaos, especially if it is chaos that they are enjoying, like maybe a watching or playing a hockey game or whatever. Some people may not think that it can be 'peaceful' to play hocky because it can be quite rough at times. But I don't think that way about peace. If the activity is thoroughly enjoyable then it is "peaceful" no matter how violent it may seem to be to an outside observer. Just my personal thoughts on peace. Of couse, I'm assuming there's no unsportsmanlike conduct going on.  That seldom happens in the real world. 
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Peacefulness is an inner sense of calm - it comes from becoming still - in order to reflect and meditate on our inner wisdom and receive answers. A peaceful heart is one that is free from worry and trouble. It's becoming quiet so we can look at things quietly so we can more clearly understand them and thus come up with creative solutions. It is learning to live in the present. A smile is the beginning of peace - smiless More then a hint of the Buddha here  I agree that peace is a state of being, it's certainly not a goal. However, personal peace can be had at any time even in the midst of chaos. Peace is determined by how you percieve and evaluate your surroundings. Clearly it's easier to find peace when your surroundings are peaceful. And it would be almost impossible to find peace if you are being tormented by another entitry, be it human, animals, or nature. Although, it is actually possible to find peace even in the midst of pain. I think peace is nothing more than acceptance of your surroundings. This is why it is easier to find peace when your surroundings are easy to accept. I don't think its possible to give another person peace for the very reason that peace is in their perception and it's not possible to control another person's perception fully. To instill peace in others the only thing that can be done is to provide them with an environment that is hopefully pleasing to them. However, if they are focused on external worries or concerns that are not immediate to the environment, then it's all for naught. It's not possible for control the peace in another. Ultimate we can only be responsible for our own peace. Of course, it is quite possible to disturb and disrupt the peace of others by causing their environment to become uncomfortable or forcing anything upon them that they may deem to be undesirable. So while we can't ensure their peace, we can certainly disrupt it. I personally don't think that peace necessarily needs to be lethargic. I think a person can find peace in the middle of chaos, especially if it is chaos that they are enjoying, like maybe a watching or playing a hockey game or whatever. Some people may not think that it can be 'peaceful' to play hocky because it can be quite rough at times. But I don't think that way about peace. If the activity is thoroughly enjoyable then it is "peaceful" no matter how violent it may seem to be to an outside observer. Just my personal thoughts on peace. Of couse, I'm assuming there's no unsportsmanlike conduct going on. That seldom happens in the real world. As always Abra you bring clarity to the topic, thank you! |
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