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Topic: Bush Says Drill, Drill, Drill — and Oil Drops $9!
Fanta46's photo
Wed 07/16/08 03:02 PM


Oh crap!

Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise right?

I know no one who has worked harder (many as hard) or tried as hard as me, and yet while d0ing alright for myself, I doubt I'll ever be wealthy!
Yet many, many, many are born in this country with a silver spoon in their mouth while never giving anything to this country, They are the ones who have gotten the tax-breaks from Bush and they think its due to them because they are born with it!
The middle class are taking the brunt and they are a dying breed under the NeoCon system.
Not only are the middle class disappearing, but the gap between poor and wealthy is getting steadily wider.

You expect me and everyone else to fall for that old line just because the wealthy lower tax rate still amounts to a larger total?

How about a flat rate? Would you go for that? Would the wealthy go for that? No, they wont. Its been suggested for years and the wealthy are the ones who kill the tax break after tax break!

Maybe those who cant see that there are elites in this country are just looking down at the situation from too high a perch!


I get yu...it's like they just want to make a name for themselves... fugits & budgets... it looks good on paper only.

I believe in conservative principles but know that's not what we have going on in America today. FYI...fanta...we fought against NAFTA & GATT. We were called all sorts of names for it. Us right wingers... that's right... over 20 yrs. ago. I have been saying it every since.

When someone tells you what a boon it's going to be ...watch out!


I am not quite sure how to take this boon.
You've agreed with me two or three times now, and I have to admit Im more than a little worried!!:wink: flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Wed 07/16/08 03:03 PM
Does this mean you're going to vote Obama??bigsmile

Tanzkity's photo
Wed 07/16/08 03:32 PM


Well then who do you think is killing the planet....................uh I know its them dang dinosaurs..................and they did used to use the cell phone and they did used to watch tv.............come on America is leading in polluting the earth by 80% no other country comes close............so if you dont give a living crap about your future offsprings and the children of tomorrow then do what you have to do and Drill................:wink:


Are you kidding? We're one of the few countries with environmental laws in place. They aren't perfect, but places like China have no such laws at all. I have to wonder where you are getting your information from...


Im aware of China thank you but I dont live there and their system is communistic and that is a lot of red tape going on there...........im talking about the fact that we as a nation are at fault ultimately for the demise of the planet and my info is correct...........im not talking out of my a hole..............we consume the most food, we consume most of the energy in the world, and we are the one of the biggest polutants and that i know is true...............

mnhiker's photo
Wed 07/16/08 04:37 PM


I am pretty sure that nobody thinks we don't need to develope alternative fuel sources. We do.

Only those with their heads in the sand think that drilling now won't help ease the cost of oil while those alternatives are developed.

Solar and wind sound great but there are development times for both of these potential sources and even when developed I foresee only about 15-20% of our energy needs being serviced by these sources.

How about Nuclear power? We need to fast track the development and implementation of more nuke plants ASAP.

The left in this country love to follow the Europeans so let’s do that with our development of nuke power just like (shudder) France has.

In the meantime it's just plain stupid to not drill for oil we know we have. Stupid I tell you. Write your congressmen and demand that they lift the restrictions placed on drilling in Alaska and of off our shores now!



Well I'm for alternative sources...mostly with technology... I am definately NOT FOR NUCLEAR plants in america.


Wow. Those are two things we agree on.

mnhiker's photo
Wed 07/16/08 04:38 PM



I am pretty sure that nobody thinks we don't need to develope alternative fuel sources. We do.

Only those with their heads in the sand think that drilling now won't help ease the cost of oil while those alternatives are developed.

Solar and wind sound great but there are development times for both of these potential sources and even when developed I foresee only about 15-20% of our energy needs being serviced by these sources.

How about Nuclear power? We need to fast track the development and implementation of more nuke plants ASAP.

The left in this country love to follow the Europeans so let’s do that with our development of nuke power just like (shudder) France has.

In the meantime it's just plain stupid to not drill for oil we know we have. Stupid I tell you. Write your congressmen and demand that they lift the restrictions placed on drilling in Alaska and of off our shores now!



Well I'm for alternative sources...mostly with technology... I am definately NOT FOR NUCLEAR plants in america.


Wow. Those are two things we agree on.drinker

Quikstepper's photo
Thu 07/17/08 03:50 AM



Oh crap!

Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise right?

I know no one who has worked harder (many as hard) or tried as hard as me, and yet while d0ing alright for myself, I doubt I'll ever be wealthy!
Yet many, many, many are born in this country with a silver spoon in their mouth while never giving anything to this country, They are the ones who have gotten the tax-breaks from Bush and they think its due to them because they are born with it!
The middle class are taking the brunt and they are a dying breed under the NeoCon system.
Not only are the middle class disappearing, but the gap between poor and wealthy is getting steadily wider.

You expect me and everyone else to fall for that old line just because the wealthy lower tax rate still amounts to a larger total?

How about a flat rate? Would you go for that? Would the wealthy go for that? No, they wont. Its been suggested for years and the wealthy are the ones who kill the tax break after tax break!

Maybe those who cant see that there are elites in this country are just looking down at the situation from too high a perch!


I get yu...it's like they just want to make a name for themselves... fugits & budgets... it looks good on paper only.

I believe in conservative principles but know that's not what we have going on in America today. FYI...fanta...we fought against NAFTA & GATT. We were called all sorts of names for it. Us right wingers... that's right... over 20 yrs. ago. I have been saying it every since.

When someone tells you what a boon it's going to be ...watch out!


I am not quite sure how to take this boon.
You've agreed with me two or three times now, and I have to admit Im more than a little worried!!:wink: flowerforyou


Yes well I'm not the mind numb robot you think I am :wink: laugh

Fanta46's photo
Thu 07/17/08 05:07 AM
drinker drinker glasses bigsmile flowerforyou

astrosfan's photo
Thu 07/17/08 05:35 AM

what confused me was the timing, he's been president for hmm 2 terms and now in July of his last term, now he wants to drill.


ya thast what i say .. i hate bush .........!!!

but his time will come... hopefully he meets some one like the lowinski ( how ever you spell it ) sister and take all of bush's money ! that gready bastered!!!!!!!!

no photo
Thu 07/17/08 10:46 AM


Exxon

July 23, 2007 stock sold for 93.44

July 15, 2008 stock sold for 82.19

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=XOM#chart1:symbol=xom;range=1y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

It says it all right there. I ignored no facts, I did the research on my own to figure out the data, I didn't simply copy and paste an article like you did.


Is this a personal insult because you have nothing of fact to offer? Yes, yes, I believe it is!

See this is why a person cant have an intelligent factual debate with you young man!
You refuse to acknowledge the truth!
Even when the facts are presented for you! This is why I dont waste my time trying!

Enjoy your game of golf!drinker


Can't you read those numbers? They show that Exxon stock has slid more than 10 points. It's as clear as day.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 07/17/08 01:23 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 07/17/08 01:31 PM
EXXONMOBIL'S CHAIRMAN REX W. TILLERSON COMMENTED:

"ExxonMobil's first quarter net income was a record $10,890 million, up 17% from the first quarter of 2007. Earnings per share were up 25% reflecting the impact of the continuing share purchase program. Higher crude oil and natural gas realizations, driven by record worldwide crude oil prices, were partly offset by lower refining and chemical margins, lower production volumes and higher operating costs.


IRVING, Texas, May 01, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Exxon Mobil Corporation (XOM:exxon mobil corp com XOM:)

I'm not getting in to it with you anymore.drinker

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