I believe we are all connected on the quantum level. Quantum physics backs this up.

This is a basic pantheistic view.

While we are all connected, we are still individuals.

We are not exactly a hive mentality, although we are similar to one. A hive mentality is like bees, they work together as one mind.

Humans work together as one mind to some extent as they collectively create the reality in which they live. The reason there are so many variations in societies and cultures on the earth is because humans are creatures who are evolving away from the hive mentality and becoming more and more individual.

As a creature's consciousness evolves away from the whole (or the hive mentality,) they become more individual and more self aware and they perceive that separateness more and more until they become unaware of their connection to the whole.

But we are still connected to the whole and part of that which is called "God" is the whole.

As we evolve to a point where we look for self, we look within for self, and that is when we find that I AM that is god.

Hence all god realized individuals are both themselves and god. That is why I can understand the concept that Christians think of as Jesus being God and yet separate from God. (The Father, the son, the Holy spirit)

They are all the same ~~ just as all things are connected. They are connected and yet they are separate and individual.

It is a paradox. To be one and to also be individual is a paradox. But that is the way I see it.

JB

Can someone explain to me this business of manifestation as you see it ?.
Surely I did not manifest anything of this sort all my life and I know nobody who manifested anything at all . .

To manifest is a word that means to bring about or make evident or certain by showing or displaying.

I suppose it is related to creating.

We attract things into our life by what we think. Our attitude affects our actions and our actions affect what happens in our life.

The Law of Attraction by Esther and Jerry Hicks is the best book to read on this subject.

If you want to know what you are attracting or manifesting in your life, just look around at your surroundings and you life and the people in it. That is your doing. You may not have created them but you attracted them.

JB

so if i'm on a picnic and get stung by bees or mosquitos, or ants - its because i attract them??
how? i hate them!! why would i want to attract them to me??

You will attract mosquitoes if they like the smell of your blood. Rub on some "Skin So Soft" oil (by Avon) and it will keep them off you.

Ants are attracted by the crumbs and probably because you chose to park in their vicinity. If you can locate their ant hill, sprinkle a bunch of corn meal on it. They will work on gathering the corn meal and take it under ground and eat it and it will kill them. I have tried this on ant hills before and so far it works great. I have a giant red ant hill in front of my house I am going to experiment on and take pictures of the results to see if the corn meal remedy really works on large determined ants.

Yes I know, I'm evil.

Bees are attracted to you if you are wearing bright colors. They may think you are a flower offering them some pollen. Most of the time bees will leave you alone unless they are killer bees and you disturb their nest. Never swat a bee and kill it. That will release a smell that will bring other bees to defend the nest.

And yes, you are responsible for attracting them, but it helps to know how to avoid them too.

Love the bees, because they pollinate our food. The killer strain of bees are said to no longer be a threat because they inner bred with nicer bees and lost their aggressive instincts.

JB

You will attract mosquitoes if they like the smell of your blood. Rub on some "Skin So Soft" oil (by Avon) and it will keep them off you.

Ants are attracted by the crumbs and probably because you chose to park in their vicinity. If you can locate their ant hill, sprinkle a bunch of corn meal on it. They will work on gathering the corn meal and take it under ground and eat it and it will kill them. I have tried this on ant hills before and so far it works great. I have a giant red ant hill in front of my house I am going to experiment on and take pictures of the results to see if the corn meal remedy really works on large determined ants.

Yes I know, I'm evil.

Bees are attracted to you if you are wearing bright colors. They may think you are a flower offering them some pollen. Most of the time bees will leave you alone unless they are killer bees and you disturb their nest. Never swat a bee and kill it. That will release a smell that will bring other bees to defend the nest.

And yes, you are responsible for attracting them, but it helps to know how to avoid them too.

Love the bees, because they pollinate our food. The killer strain of bees are said to no longer be a threat because they inner bred with nicer bees and lost their aggressive instincts.

JB

To understand what I mean when I say that "I am god and you are god" and that "we are creators," you need to understand that I am not saying that the creature (or body) we call "human" is "a god" in the sense of what you think of as a god.

You challenge me to describe anything that "man" (as a physical embodiment) has "created."

Currently in this density, everything a physical person or human being might want to create in this physical reality has to be created out of the physical material that is already here.

A physical human can create things from his mind but he has to use or attract or aquire the material that is already in this universe. That is the law.

But the part of him or her that is not in this universe is connected to him or her and sustains him or her in this reality is connected to the prime source of all things. Without that connection, he or she will cease to exist.

A human being is a thinking center and thoughts are what create something from nothing. Thoughts can exist outside of space time. Thoughts can create matter and attract it into space time realities. This process works similar to the process of your mind which creates reality when you are having a dream. In your dream you will find objects that appear real, you will find a sky, a mountain, a house, a tree etc. These things you created with your thoughts. When you awaken, they cease to exist.

We have not yet reached the stage of development where we can think things into existence with our minds... yet. And the density of this reality we live in does not allow that... yet.

But densities can change, and frequencies can change. There may come a time when this will happen.

Until then you rely on the law of attraction to create the reality and the circumstances and experiences you want in your life. It is a good idea to practice the creative techniques because if the frequency of this reality does change you will be able to think and it will appear. It does take focus.

JB

hmmm? - this sounds exactly like what i keep saying of your god?? actually yours sounds more like man than mine - i cant speak for JB there, but for me, creative force only has two things i can determine, infinite existance, and the power to bring forth creative substance into this reality. If i find more i will let you know, ok?

that's the problem with living inside a box, you are unable to think outside of what you've put your faith or trust in as to beliefs, once you've found "the Truth" you become content and no longer search but to continue to put all your time and energy into that which rings true to you, i have not such faith in anything to do so to myself or others. I have no wish for someone else's future to be on my hands as to what the ""absolute truth"" is. If your god does exist and damns me for that, then so be it, he would then be, if that's the case, someone i would not want to be with anyway. I would rather believe that god is not emotional or judgemental in any shape or form, and let those who do go live with him in what i think would be such a boring existence i would probably rebel and start the whole process over again.

Jeannie;

Okay - we're establishing some common ground here. This part of man that exists outside of the realm of material - the place where "thoughts" eminate from... Is this the "universal God" to which you speak? To me, this is the "spirit of Man". That seemingly universal aspect that we all appear to have that cannot be demonstrated, touched, or often times explained.

Perception seems to be the main "tool" of operation of this part of man, and we use that "perception" to judge and qualify reality.

Are we close on a mutual understanding here?

Tribo:



I agree with your assessment on the attributes of the "creative force" - but I expand my understanding of this force to also have the ability to control and manipulate the forces outside of man. Weather comes to mind. The instincts of animals come to mind. He need not occupy Himself with the free choices of man to have influence over Him.

On part the second... God doesn't "damn" anyone.
There are actions, and consequences. The choice is left to man. He is his own judge. The problem comes when faced with the ultimate reality of "absolute truth". Either there is such a thing - or there isn't. This is the concept on which Man will ultimate answer for himself when he passes beyond the reality we know as "life". To claim there is not "absolute truth" - and then claim that one cannot accept a "judgemental God" if there is one, is to not comprehend either concept. A "Judgemental God" only exists where Absolute truth does. But then the blame falls back to man in this scenario - so a "God who condemns" is a mis-nomer. He only "appears" as such because the establishment of "absolute truth" eminates from Him - not man.

Jeannie;

If that is the case, we are not in disagreement to the concept - just the semantics of labelling it. Having noticed a number of posts of yours describing this "power of attraction", I can attest to this phenomina, having experienced it myself numerous times in my life, creating events that have no explination satisfied by "it's just co-incidence". I often think of this as a "God-like experience of awareness", rather than one that eminates from my desires.

So the question that is begged here - is whether or not the "desired attraction" eminates from the will of man that it happen, or is the awareness of it's inevitable occurance what creates the desire?

Tribo:



I agree with your assessment on the attributes of the "creative force" - but I expand my understanding of this force to also have the ability to control and manipulate the forces outside of man. Weather comes to mind. The instincts of animals come to mind. He need not occupy Himself with the free choices of man to have influence over Him.

On part the second... God doesn't "damn" anyone.
There are actions, and consequences. The choice is left to man. He is his own judge. The problem comes when faced with the ultimate reality of "absolute truth". Either there is such a thing - or there isn't. This is the concept on which Man will ultimate answer for himself when he passes beyond the reality we know as "life". To claim there is not "absolute truth" - and then claim that one cannot accept a "judgemental God" if there is one, is to not comprehend either concept. A "Judgemental God" only exists where Absolute truth does. But then the blame falls back to man in this scenario - so a "God who condemns" is a mis-nomer. He only "appears" as such because the establishment of "absolute truth" eminates from Him - not man.

Jeannie;

So the question that is begged here - is whether or not the "desired attraction" eminates from the will of man that it happen, or is the awareness of it's inevitable occurance what creates the desire?

I have to ask about your last part of this question,

"Is the awareness of it's inevitable occurrence...what creates the desire?"

I'm not so sure what you are talking about here. You seem to be talking about something in particular but I am not sure what.


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I will summarize my point simply. You must know WHAT YOU WANT in order to begin to create or attract or manifest it.

You begin discovering what you want by process of elimination. First you have to discover or learn what you don't want.

Then you look at something opposite of that and you may decide that is what you do want.

Example: You don't like being alone. You don't like being in pain. You don't like being in jail. You don't like being in debt. You don't like being unhappy.

You know about these things because you have experienced or are still experiencing them.

So you prefer: Being with someone, being free from pain, being free from jail or confinement, being free from debt, being happy.

So you desire: Someone you would like to be with, to feel good and be healthy, you desire to be free, and have wealth and feel joy.

Now that you know what you want, in order to attract those things you must take your mind and your attention off of the things you don't want that you may be experiencing. If you keep your attention on them and keep thinking about them and keep believing that is your fate, you will perpetuate and continue to manifest these things in your life.

It is the WILL that has the power to redirect your attention to the things that you want and it does take the will to do this.

You must stop saying and thinking that you are in debt and will always be in debt, or that you are alone and will always be alone. You must change your thinking, and that will change your attention and your attitude and then those things will manifest (become apparent) in the physical world when you do these things.

For every one time you say or think about a thing you do not want in your life you must say or think about the thing that you do want in your life more. Try ten times more! You have to think about what you want more than what you don't want.

But don't say: "I will win the lottery." or don't say: "I want to win the lottery." Because you probably will not believe this for one thing, and for another thing the "I will..." part is in the future and the future is always in the future.

It has to be believable. You have to be able to believe what you are telling yourself. If you don't, then another little voice inside of you will start yelling...."You are an idiot, you will never win the lottery, fool!"

But you can say something you can believe like: "Each day feel a little better than the day before." Or you can say: "I am increasing my ability to earn more money, and I am getting out of debt."

These are proven techniques and are used by successful businessmen and athletes.

These are the creative techniques.

JB

That is because I know that the "scientific community" does not have all of the answers, especially when quantum physics enters the picture.



Energy is nothing more than a wave or vibration. Thoughts are also waves and vibrations. They are the same thing at quantum levels. Just because you cannot see a thought actually move a visible object does not mean that thoughts are not things that can influence other things.

Research and experiments in the power of thoughts are being done and it has been found that thought can indeed effect outcomes and objects.




Are you not a Christian? Are you now insisting that truth must be something that is validated by the scientific community?

If so, then you should not be calling yourself a believer in god or a Christian because scientific community has not yet proven the existence of god.

Truth is something we all seek. I am simply searching for a reasonable concept of the nature of reality that solves the major problems facing religious and scientific theory.

I think the holographic universe and the wave structure of matter is the closest thing to truth I can find. You don't have to agree.

JB

I am a Christian, but unlike others I do not claim my religion is truth. If it was truth then you couldn't claim faith. Energy is the ability to do work. Look it up.
Thoughts do not apply a force so they can not do work.