Topic: If Jesus comes back...
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Mon 06/30/08 01:59 PM

What if Jesus came back as he has promised?

I know a lot of Christians have different ideas of how this will occur and what will happen and not all of them are the same.

I was thinking about this and imagined a news broadcast on television. CNN or ABC news. Tom Brochau ..LOL

"This just in.....what?.....who?... are you kidding? Folks this report just in states that a large cloud has descended upon all major cities here and in the middle east with a giant hologram of Jesus Christ and a host of angels.....Nasa has been notified and are looking into the strange phenomena.....


Okay that's a joke, but what do you imagine the second coming would be like?

all these nonsensical argument would finally end. and will finally will come to the ultimate truth.

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Mon 06/30/08 02:01 PM

if God was the only existence before he created the universe then why would he deserve to be worshipped ...for what reason since he hasn't created the universe yet or even create humans....and that God felt the "need" to create humans to worship him because he deserved to be worshipped is a sign of God's insecurity ...an insecure God is not a real God but a wannabe


Funches,

Your issues are your own. If you cannot be reasoned with, then why should I try? You don't even attempt to refute what I have posted, you have created a strawman. God wanted to give blessings to others, that's not a need or even a "need", it's a desire. God desired to serve other's through blessings. That's not insecurity, it's love. I believe that any argument I make you will shoot down out of hand, because you aren't interested in rational debate, you are simply wanting to shout your own beliefs in hopes that they smash anothers. Please actually read what I posted with an open mind and see that what I posted makes sense in the Biblical context. I'm not asking you to believe, but I am asking you to address what I posted and not strawman fallacies of your own creation.

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Mon 06/30/08 02:17 PM


if God was the only existence before he created the universe then why would he deserve to be worshipped ...for what reason since he hasn't created the universe yet or even create humans....and that God felt the "need" to create humans to worship him because he deserved to be worshipped is a sign of God's insecurity ...an insecure God is not a real God but a wannabe


Funches,

Your issues are your own. If you cannot be reasoned with, then why should I try? You don't even attempt to refute what I have posted, you have created a strawman. God wanted to give blessings to others, that's not a need or even a "need", it's a desire. God desired to serve other's through blessings. That's not insecurity, it's love. I believe that any argument I make you will shoot down out of hand, because you aren't interested in rational debate, you are simply wanting to shout your own beliefs in hopes that they smash anothers. Please actually read what I posted with an open mind and see that what I posted makes sense in the Biblical context. I'm not asking you to believe, but I am asking you to address what I posted and not strawman fallacies of your own creation.


Spidercmb..you keep saying that God "deserved" to be worship...since God at that point in time hasn't created humans then who told God that he deserved to be worshipped but God himself....that's ego....and God had a "need" to feed that ego through worship

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Mon 06/30/08 03:05 PM
armegedon....death destruction angels and demons fighting...

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Mon 06/30/08 03:48 PM

armegedon....death destruction angels and demons fighting...


Now that's what I'm talking about!

:banana: pitchfork :banana: pitchfork :banana: pitchfork :banana: pitchfork :banana: pitchfork :banana: pitchfork

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Mon 06/30/08 04:56 PM
Or maybe like George Carlin wanted, a 25 on the Richter scale.

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Thu 07/03/08 07:02 AM

Or maybe like George Carlin wanted, a 25 on the Richter scale.



even this weekend

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Thu 07/03/08 07:23 AM



if God was the only existence before he created the universe then why would he deserve to be worshipped ...for what reason since he hasn't created the universe yet or even create humans....and that God felt the "need" to create humans to worship him because he deserved to be worshipped is a sign of God's insecurity ...an insecure God is not a real God but a wannabe


Funches,

Your issues are your own. If you cannot be reasoned with, then why should I try? You don't even attempt to refute what I have posted, you have created a strawman. God wanted to give blessings to others, that's not a need or even a "need", it's a desire. God desired to serve other's through blessings. That's not insecurity, it's love. I believe that any argument I make you will shoot down out of hand, because you aren't interested in rational debate, you are simply wanting to shout your own beliefs in hopes that they smash anothers. Please actually read what I posted with an open mind and see that what I posted makes sense in the Biblical context. I'm not asking you to believe, but I am asking you to address what I posted and not strawman fallacies of your own creation.


Spidercmb..you keep saying that God "deserved" to be worship...since God at that point in time hasn't created humans then who told God that he deserved to be worshipped but God himself....that's ego....and God had a "need" to feed that ego through worship


funches......."the only thing in existence before the earth was created, why would this deserve to be worshipped, lol......a MOST WISE QUESTION, and the end thereof LEAD to ALL THE BLISS OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE "whole" TRUTH...........PERHAPS A WHOLE INFINITE REALM OF BEINGS AND CREATION OF A DIFFERENT IMMORTAL TYPE THAN ON EARTH OR WITHIN THE UNIVERSE AS "VIEWED" FROM EARTH......that being an eternal one, or REALM or UNIVERSE, and what the word "god" only means......one person yes, as each human born is as a god, each with a "time" that they will exist eternally, but how would one describe many beings living eternally.....also as gods, and it was said FROM THERE "US".......let "US" make man in "OUR" image......us and our is not ONE!!! perhaps it was only saying "worship" this truth of seeing how these are and exist, as worship only means what one VALUE the most.......what is WORTH the most.......what is worth the most other than eternal if humans only live a short span to learn what is NEEDED to have WISDOM NEEDED to live eternal......indeed it APPEAR that you already worship such or you would not ask even the questions you do, TO FIND THE TRUTH........

if all things that exist have a mirror, or opposite, than immortal must also have a mirror, or opposite.....even this very realm and all that happens ALSO happens in another realm except that if all WISDOM be had, than nothing is not for pleasure and peace......PERFECT INNTHIS REALM.....to be worshipped i would say, lol.........

but then is a cataclismic event the only thing that make man throw off the pride of being "RIGHT" himself and look HIGHER for more truth.......i wish not

if any man ASK to be lifted up to look DOWN on the earth, and see ALL peoples and things, and the purpose of all things, and to see HOW and WHY all things happen to allow HOW to see WHY humans are first guilty, then NOT GUILTY, how can it NOT be granted if there is any eternal realm at all, and what human can make even one blade of grass in all their wisdom..........MORE.......

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Thu 07/03/08 08:32 AM
Im Jesus pray for me my people! LOL!

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Thu 07/03/08 10:10 AM




if God was the only existence before he created the universe then why would he deserve to be worshipped ...for what reason since he hasn't created the universe yet or even create humans....and that God felt the "need" to create humans to worship him because he deserved to be worshipped is a sign of God's insecurity ...an insecure God is not a real God but a wannabe


Funches,

Your issues are your own. If you cannot be reasoned with, then why should I try? You don't even attempt to refute what I have posted, you have created a strawman. God wanted to give blessings to others, that's not a need or even a "need", it's a desire. God desired to serve other's through blessings. That's not insecurity, it's love. I believe that any argument I make you will shoot down out of hand, because you aren't interested in rational debate, you are simply wanting to shout your own beliefs in hopes that they smash anothers. Please actually read what I posted with an open mind and see that what I posted makes sense in the Biblical context. I'm not asking you to believe, but I am asking you to address what I posted and not strawman fallacies of your own creation.


Spidercmb..you keep saying that God "deserved" to be worship...since God at that point in time hasn't created humans then who told God that he deserved to be worshipped but God himself....that's ego....and God had a "need" to feed that ego through worship


funches......."the only thing in existence before the earth was created, why would this deserve to be worshipped, lol......a MOST WISE QUESTION, and the end thereof LEAD to ALL THE BLISS OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE "whole" TRUTH...........PERHAPS A WHOLE INFINITE REALM OF BEINGS AND CREATION OF A DIFFERENT IMMORTAL TYPE THAN ON EARTH OR WITHIN THE UNIVERSE AS "VIEWED" FROM EARTH......that being an eternal one, or REALM or UNIVERSE, and what the word "god" only means......one person yes, as each human born is as a god, each with a "time" that they will exist eternally, but how would one describe many beings living eternally.....also as gods, and it was said FROM THERE "US".......let "US" make man in "OUR" image......us and our is not ONE!!! perhaps it was only saying "worship" this truth of seeing how these are and exist, as worship only means what one VALUE the most.......what is WORTH the most.......what is worth the most other than eternal if humans only live a short span to learn what is NEEDED to have WISDOM NEEDED to live eternal......indeed it APPEAR that you already worship such or you would not ask even the questions you do, TO FIND THE TRUTH........

if all things that exist have a mirror, or opposite, than immortal must also have a mirror, or opposite.....even this very realm and all that happens ALSO happens in another realm except that if all WISDOM be had, than nothing is not for pleasure and peace......PERFECT INNTHIS REALM.....to be worshipped i would say, lol.........

but then is a cataclismic event the only thing that make man throw off the pride of being "RIGHT" himself and look HIGHER for more truth.......i wish not

if any man ASK to be lifted up to look DOWN on the earth, and see ALL peoples and things, and the purpose of all things, and to see HOW and WHY all things happen to allow HOW to see WHY humans are first guilty, then NOT GUILTY, how can it NOT be granted if there is any eternal realm at all, and what human can make even one blade of grass in all their wisdom..........MORE.......


that God created lesser creatures than himself called humans is not truth ..it is leading away from the truth ..the truth is not lesser than God or on the same level as God it has to be beyond God ..if God wanted humans to know truth he would have made man more perfect than himself not lesser ..even the biblical story of Adam and Eve tells how God didn't want Man to have more knowledge than him ..according to the bible God only want his followers to "believe" or have "faith" not to actually "know" ...and this does not equate to Truth

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Thu 07/03/08 10:48 AM
If Jesus came back Id hang otu with him n tell him wats up?

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Thu 07/03/08 11:40 AM
where have you heard me say "lessor".....you have not, but rather your mind interpret what i say and repeat that, not what i have spoken.....

all things evolve.......

what child has as much wisdom as an adult....

but then funches, you seek to DISPROVE to find truth, when rather if one seek to PROVE ALL AS TRUTH, then untruth be left revealed in plain site......

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Thu 07/03/08 01:22 PM

where have you heard me say "lessor".....you have not, but rather your mind interpret what i say and repeat that, not what i have spoken.....

all things evolve.......

what child has as much wisdom as an adult....

but then funches, you seek to DISPROVE to find truth, when rather if one seek to PROVE ALL AS TRUTH, then untruth be left revealed in plain site......


when one speak of Gods then something has to be lesser than the God ..that's what the term "God" insinuates..

also there is no need to disprove anything to find truth ...because anything that is not an absolute constant can not be truth .. therefore anything and everything that has the ability to change or evolve is not truth

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Thu 07/03/08 05:37 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Thu 07/03/08 05:38 PM
:smile: When The ONE reveals himself its gonna be shocker.:smile:


:heart: The biggest ever :heart:

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Thu 07/03/08 07:08 PM

:smile: When The ONE reveals himself its gonna be shocker.:smile:


:heart: The biggest ever :heart:


the voice that whispered this one be THE ONE

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Thu 07/03/08 07:09 PM


where have you heard me say "lessor".....you have not, but rather your mind interpret what i say and repeat that, not what i have spoken.....

all things evolve.......

what child has as much wisdom as an adult....

but then funches, you seek to DISPROVE to find truth, when rather if one seek to PROVE ALL AS TRUTH, then untruth be left revealed in plain site......


when one speak of Gods then something has to be lesser than the God ..that's what the term "God" insinuates..

also there is no need to disprove anything to find truth ...because anything that is not an absolute constant can not be truth .. therefore anything and everything that has the ability to change or evolve is not truth


IS A CHILD LESSOR THAN AN ADULT

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 07/03/08 07:25 PM


:smile: When The ONE reveals himself its gonna be shocker.:smile:


:heart: The biggest ever :heart:


the voice that whispered this one be THE ONE
drinker bigsmile drinker

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Thu 07/03/08 07:27 PM
How very true

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Fri 07/04/08 04:59 AM



where have you heard me say "lessor".....you have not, but rather your mind interpret what i say and repeat that, not what i have spoken.....

all things evolve.......

what child has as much wisdom as an adult....

but then funches, you seek to DISPROVE to find truth, when rather if one seek to PROVE ALL AS TRUTH, then untruth be left revealed in plain site......


when one speak of Gods then something has to be lesser than the God ..that's what the term "God" insinuates..

also there is no need to disprove anything to find truth ...because anything that is not an absolute constant can not be truth .. therefore anything and everything that has the ability to change or evolve is not truth


IS A CHILD LESSOR THAN AN ADULT


"DavidBen"..the question you presented is somewhat vague so I will attempt to fill in the blanks

if the adult in your question refer to theirself as being "God" then "yes" in the eyes of the adult the child is lesser ..

it's impossible to use the term "God" without insinuating that others are lesser ...the term "God" is a key mind control word that only purpose is to greatly enhance one and greatly lessen another

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Fri 07/04/08 08:22 AM
funches.......your truth i declare in open and you do not even hear.......

you seek vindication of what is already known within yourself, and this block any ear.......

i completely AGREE with the reasons your wisdom tell you religion and the "following" thereof make for humankind to damn itself to repeating.........

on earth the term used be god and the meaning be as percieved by the HEARER, and of course why you SEE IN WISDOM that it be divisive, and bring not TRUTH or PEACE......BUT IS THIS ONLY FOR A "TIME" TO BRING MORE......

IT WAS ALSO SAID WITHIN TEXT THAT THE KNOWING OR THINKING OF "GOD" IN THESE WAYS WOULD PASS AWAY AT THE ENDING OF THE 6TH DAY OF MANKIND, AND WHY INDEED I AGREE WITH YOU, FIRST HAVING HEARD THE SAME, AND THEN SEEING IT "CONFIRMED" BY ALL THINGS PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN.......

is it the word that is incorrect or untruth, or only the PERCEPTION one looks thru.......if this be FIXED or understood, then it CAN pass away......

if one looks to the text where such was borrowed, THEREIN it only say "in the beginning was god" and he is the TRUTH, LIFE, and WAY......

it is minds indeed that have LISTENED to the figment of imagination, and why IN AGREEMENT I SAY THE SAME, that it is an imagined god that is ATTEMPTED to be worshipped and followed........ if any HEARD the TRUTH, to worship god would only mean worship then first THE WHOLE TRUTH, then LIFE, and the WAY, would be what is valued MOST, or worshipped

for god to come to be FIRST then would mean the TRUTH to become MOST IMPORTANT..........secondly then LIFE, and then thirdly the WAY........the FIRST SEEN have to be to come to make the third or WAY to be SEEN.......no longer then believing in a figment of what "god" is.........but knowing with all ASSURANCE, OR CONFIDENCE, and what does any human wish for then no longer any DOUBTS, that plague all minds alive, lol.....

if the truth paint a lessor picture of man, than indeed how is this "bad"...........this could easily be GREAT WISDOM if not interpreted by the mind as a "negative" thing, as if nothing says and knows it is LESSOR than < > ALL THE TRUTH, how is this not GOOD.......is it not mere inncocence that would say it is not LESSOR than ALL KNOWING, or INFINITE TRUTH THAT CAN NEVER BE ALL LEARNED, BUT RATHER JUST SEEN WHICH PART ONE NEED FOR NOW..........TO CLEAR THE MIND to be ALWAYS LEARNING, TO BRING TO ALL KNOWING........even any innocent of such "STOP" the mind from LEARNING MORE.......or literally, physically BLOCK the path to ALL KNOWING.....

it appears simply that all it is saying is HOW humankind is to find it's destiny to become ALL KNOWING FOR ALL TIME IN FRONT OF THEM, and that when humankind be brought to this FULL UNDERSTANDING of WHY, HOW, WHAT, block it's MIND to the path to ALL KNOWING, OR SOLUTIONS FOR ALL THAT WE WISH TO CHANGE.......

seems like the perfect ingredients or PLAN to make mankind HAVE to join together in PEACE and BROTHERHOOD to find ALL THE TRUTH......EACH hold a FRAGMENT of ALL THE TRUTH, but how can all FRAGMENTS be joined together as ONE WHOLE IS CERTAINALY THE ONLY INDICATOR OF TRUTH AND WAY AND SUSTAINING LIFE

seems why it was said not to judge, lol......but then NO HUMAN CAN DO THIS, and why it also added HOW to keep the MIND OPEN, that one only need ADMIT to the truth of anything EACH mind whisper to ITSELF, if one knows in the HEART it be true, and that the FEELING of having to do this would be as GREAT PAIN, however THIS was promised would show or reveal ALL TRUTH.......

indeed if any be unhappy, which is ANY that has created unhappiness for themself SOMEHOW, it can only come from not seeing that ALL THAT IS HAPPENING AT ALL TIMES IS THE TRUTH, AND INDEED SEARCHING WHEN ONE IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL TRUTH, IS WHAT MAKE FOR MISERY, OR UNHAPPINESS, AND TO SEE THAT NOTHING IS OUT OF ORDER, ALL IS PERFECT, "CREATE" A KNOWLEDGE THEN THAT "LIGHTEN THE PATH", AND THEN CREATING "DIFFERENT" TOMARROW THAT "DOES NOT FAIL" TO BRING COMPLETE HAPPINESS BECOMES POSSIBLE.......

it is IMPOSSIBLE to find the truth, or define the truth, as it is infinite, and to TRY to do so bring one to see NOT to attempt to do so, then what was "lessor" has NOW become MORE......