I think you are a reasonable person. I hope you find your way free of that Church.

Peace in Truth.

thanks, i try to be reasonable. i also was in a bible study about how a woman should be, etc. yes we are to pipe down sometimes, but then if we are living in truth then we should share that and get involved with our church. my church does allow women to lead worship, etc. but there are standards she must meet.

My church lets women be equal to men.

i think that is how it should be and what God wanted to begin with.

I disagree. This doesn't sound like a quiet, meak, submissive woman to me...

Proverbs 31:10-31
10 Who can find a good wife? For she is worth far more than rubies that make one rich. 11 The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will never stop getting good things. 12 She does him good and not bad all the days of her life. 13 She looks for wool and flax, and works with willing hands. 14 She is like ships that trade. She brings her food from far away. 15 She rises while it is still night and makes food for all those in her house. She gives work for the young women to do. 16 She gives careful thought to a field and buys it. She plants grape-vines from what she has earned. 17 She makes herself ready with strength, and makes her arms strong. 18 She sees that what she has earned is good. Her lamp does not go out at night. 19 She puts her hands to the wheel to make cloth. 20 She opens her hand to the poor, and holds out her hands to those in need. 21 She is not afraid of the snow for those in her house, for all of them are dressed in red. 22 She makes coverings for herself. Her clothes are linen cloth and purple. 23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sits among the leaders of the land. 24 She makes linen clothes and sells them. She brings belts to those who trade. 25 Her clothes are strength and honor. She is full of joy about the future. 26 She opens her mouth with wisdom. The teaching of kindness is on her tongue. 27 She looks well to the ways of those in her house, and does not eat the bread of doing nothing. 28 Her children rise up and honor her. Her husband does also, and he praises her, saying: 29 "Many daughters have done well, but you have done better than all of them." 30 Pleasing ways lie and beauty comes to nothing, but a woman who fears the Lord will be praised. 31 Give her the fruit of her hands, and let her works praise her in the gates.

nice

Proverbs 18.24

�A man that hath friends must shew himself friendly, and there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother.�

New Testament
1 Corinthians
Women are commanded by Paul to be silent in church and to be obedient to men. He further says that "if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in church." 14:34-35

Christians always use this excuse.

"Yes, there are two halves of the bible, and 90% of it is the Old Testament. Christians sure are quick to disown 90% of their perfect, inerrant book."

If we were released from the laws of the Old Testament by the blood of Jesus Christ when He died on the cross, as many Christians assert, then why do so many Christians still use Old Testament laws on the rest of us?

Consider Leviticus 20:13, where we are told that homosexuality is an abomination, and that they "shall surely be put to death".

How come we hear about that, and other Old Testament laws so much? They are sure quick to whip out Old Testament laws when it is convenient for them to do so.

Christians say "Well, it was different in those days..." Alright then-- how? How was it different, so that cruel wars of extermination and the slaughter of innocent children were perfectly acceptable to Christians?

I can understand why you, and other Christians, would want to divorce the New Testament from the bloody Old Testament. You would HAVE TO, to be able to maintain any kind of moral rectitude. But honestly, it cannot be done.

The very first chapter of the very first book of the New Testament lists the geneaology of Jesus back to Abraham.

In Matthew Chapter 17, Jesus speaks to Old Testament figures Moses and Elijah, who's figures appeared before him.

Matthew 24:37 is an undeniable link to the brutality of the Old Testament, where Jesus compares his second coming to the destruction of the Great Flood that killed the world's population.

Nice trolling. What was this supposed to accomplish? I think it's pretty obvious, you want to drive women away from Christianity, great goal there. Do you also like to steal candy from babies and unplug life support machines in old folks homes? I think it's time to get a new hobby, because this one isn't nice.

Your book ... Im only quoting from it, just like you do.

The bible has been the single most restrictive piece of literature for the freedom of women throughout the centuries.

But its ok .. you are male and dont have this "ownership" problem

Mr Biblical scholar, I think you should read more than just one verse, don't you? Jesus was saying how the people were surprised by the flood, they will also be surprised by the second coming. Nobody will expect it, nobody will predict it. So Mr Biblical scholar, maybe you need to go back to school and focus on reading comprehension and ethics.

Did Jesus ever condemn his father's previous massacres?

Are you ignorant or simply stupid? In Islam, a woman has no rights, that is taught by the Koran. In Islam, it's a common practice to castrate women. In Islam, it's a common practice to beat your wife, they even have specifications for how big the rod you beat her with should be. So tell me, how is "The bible has been the single most restrictive piece of literature for the freedom of women throughout the centuries" when it doesn't teach any of that? Is telling a woman to not ask questions while the preacher is preacher worse than a woman having her labia and clit removed with a rusty knife? More importantly, why do you choose to be so blind?

Are you capable of anything other than trolling?

Its only your interpretation of it though ...

As with everything else in the Bible, its contradictory

Do you have the capability of free thought?

Everything that is written or said MUST BE INTERPRETED. Get a freaking clue man. Stop having your little temper tantrum about how mean God is. There is a correct intrepretation of that scripture, which is also what I posted. Yours is the "participation award" in the special Olympics interpretation of that scripture.

But we are not talking about islam, are we?

We are talking about your "merciful" god.

plus, I think you will find that Islam is a relatively young religion compared to judaism and christianity and the bible would have been written at least 500 years before the Koran.

and did hundreds of thousands of women in christendom get slaughtered for being a witch because of the bible?

Yes, quite a bit more than you do. I was able to look honestly at the beliefs of Christianity and become one. I am also able to see your clear bias and willful ignorance towards Christianity.