Topic: Is Voodo a cult or a religion?
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Mon 05/05/08 12:56 PM

You know I leave you guys for a couple of hours and this is what it turns into. Someone gets offended and retaliates by showing off their intellectual and arrogant prowess.

The whole point of religion is that it IS personal and subjective. You cannot truly expect people to see eye to eye because they are raised differently and experience life differently. We are subjective, arrogant creatures.

What started out as a GREAT question has once again turned into a'my religion is better than your religion' debate and now feelings and emotions are involved because SOMEONE decided they did not want to respect another's opinion and made the deliberate decision to take offense to that opinion.

So to that person, while you may be 'defending your faith' and 'calling someone out' to set the record straight, in my humble opinion, you are simply being childish by demeaning any opinion that doesn't agree with yours and you are using your eloquent and educated opinion as a weapon, which takes all the learning, interacting, and fun out of this forum.

People can and should be allowed to express ANY viewpoint and opinion they want in this forum. Get use to it!


I fully agree with you Will, but when an opinion is based in ignorance, that ignorance should be addressed and made right.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:58 PM


They also are able to listen to others without insulting someone for giving a opinion.


Which is EXACTLY what you did to me for giving mine.

Hypocrite.


I only replied to your comment because you added to others who believe that cut and paste isn't appropiate to a conversation. By you adding that you don't read them is supporting the very idealogy of negativity into a forum that doesn't even need to be mentioned. Who cares if you don't like to read a cut and paste. So why mention it and stay with the topic. If anything you are full of it.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:59 PM

Believe it or not that information that I got from the internet actually may have been benefecial to someone who didn't know much about voodoo. So I think many appreciate it. I am fully capable of discussing issues also.

Isn't that right Mr. Einstein. Ha halaugh


and that's the same reasoning people use to cut and paste the entire bible in a thread ..

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Mon 05/05/08 01:01 PM
Edited by willfen on Mon 05/05/08 01:03 PM


You know I leave you guys for a couple of hours and this is what it turns into. Someone gets offended and retaliates by showing off their intellectual and arrogant prowess.

The whole point of religion is that it IS personal and subjective. You cannot truly expect people to see eye to eye because they are raised differently and experience life differently. We are subjective, arrogant creatures.

What started out as a GREAT question has once again turned into a'my religion is better than your religion' debate and now feelings and emotions are involved because SOMEONE decided they did not want to respect another's opinion and made the deliberate decision to take offense to that opinion.

So to that person, while you may be 'defending your faith' and 'calling someone out' to set the record straight, in my humble opinion, you are simply being childish by demeaning any opinion that doesn't agree with yours and you are using your eloquent and educated opinion as a weapon, which takes all the learning, interacting, and fun out of this forum.

People can and should be allowed to express ANY viewpoint and opinion they want in this forum. Get use to it!


I fully agree with you Will, but when an opinion is based in ignorance, that ignorance should be addressed and made right.
Excellent point! But I have learned over the years to correct them in a respectful manner, and I've found that the clever, witty put-downs destroys relationships rather than enlightens people. Although I will admit that the emotional gratification you get is like eating a spoonful of coffee! lol.

But then again I am only being self-serving and childish. And sometimes you have to leave people where you find them - even if that is blind and lost.

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Mon 05/05/08 01:03 PM



They also are able to listen to others without insulting someone for giving a opinion.


Which is EXACTLY what you did to me for giving mine.

Hypocrite.


I only replied to your comment because you added to others who believe that cut and paste isn't appropiate to a conversation. By you adding that you don't read them is supporting the very idealogy of negativity into a forum that doesn't even need to be mentioned. Who cares if you don't like to read a cut and paste. So why mention it and stay with the topic. If anything you are full of it.


to cut and paste into a topic detracts from the topic.

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Mon 05/05/08 01:06 PM

all i care about is the zombies.......sick


At least the zombies are stiff. bigsmile

That's more than a lot of living men can lay claim to. laugh

Lily0923's photo
Mon 05/05/08 01:07 PM

But then again I am only being self-serving and childish. And sometimes you have to leave people where you find them - even if that is blind and lost.


Will I look at it like this, If I asked you a queston on a subject you were versed about, then turned around and made a derogatory comment about it... after stating I knew nothing about the subject.

Wouldn't that upset you?

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Mon 05/05/08 01:08 PM
Edited by smiless on Mon 05/05/08 01:09 PM




They also are able to listen to others without insulting someone for giving a opinion.


Which is EXACTLY what you did to me for giving mine.

Hypocrite.


I only replied to your comment because you added to others who believe that cut and paste isn't appropiate to a conversation. By you adding that you don't read them is supporting the very idealogy of negativity into a forum that doesn't even need to be mentioned. Who cares if you don't like to read a cut and paste. So why mention it and stay with the topic. If anything you are full of it.



to cut and paste into a topic detracts from the topic.


I don't think so. I can handle a little more reading without being distracted.

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Mon 05/05/08 01:10 PM





They also are able to listen to others without insulting someone for giving a opinion.


Which is EXACTLY what you did to me for giving mine.

Hypocrite.


I only replied to your comment because you added to others who believe that cut and paste isn't appropiate to a conversation. By you adding that you don't read them is supporting the very idealogy of negativity into a forum that doesn't even need to be mentioned. Who cares if you don't like to read a cut and paste. So why mention it and stay with the topic. If anything you are full of it.



to cut and paste into a topic detracts from the topic.


I don't think so. I can handle a little more reading without being distracted.



Well you are one of the few then.

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Mon 05/05/08 01:10 PM


But then again I am only being self-serving and childish. And sometimes you have to leave people where you find them - even if that is blind and lost.


Will I look at it like this, If I asked you a queston on a subject you were versed about, then turned around and made a derogatory comment about it... after stating I knew nothing about the subject.

Wouldn't that upset you?


I didn't mention in any point that I knew anything about voodoo and looked it up to learn more about it and wanted to share that with everyone. My goodness what a mistake that was to cut and paste for that would destroy a whole conversation in here!

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Mon 05/05/08 01:12 PM
Edited by smiless on Mon 05/05/08 01:13 PM






They also are able to listen to others without insulting someone for giving a opinion.


Which is EXACTLY what you did to me for giving mine.

Hypocrite.



I only replied to your comment because you added to others who believe that cut and paste isn't appropiate to a conversation. By you adding that you don't read them is supporting the very idealogy of negativity into a forum that doesn't even need to be mentioned. Who cares if you don't like to read a cut and paste. So why mention it and stay with the topic. If anything you are full of it.



to cut and paste into a topic detracts from the topic.


I don't think so. I can handle a little more reading without being distracted.



Well you are one of the few then.


Well you believe I am one of the few, but perhaps you are one of the few that believes cut and paste is a terrible thing to do and uses so much distraction that it actually tips the whole earth more to one side destroying your ability to see what others looked up for. It doesn't bother me or makes a difference if one puts up a article to read. Or if one reads it and then crunches it down to the same words again in their own writing. Some people are appreciate people who go forth to find a answer on the internet. Sorry you are not flexible to do this.

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Mon 05/05/08 01:15 PM
That was not a mistake. The people who make it a rule never to read cut and past information probably also don't check out links to information that you post.

They are people who just want to chat. They aren't really interested in learning anything.

Oh well who cares. I don't.

JB

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Mon 05/05/08 01:16 PM


Believe it or not that information that I got from the internet actually may have been benefecial to someone who didn't know much about voodoo. So I think many appreciate it. I am fully capable of discussing issues also.

Isn't that right Mr. Einstein. Ha halaugh


and that's the same reasoning people use to cut and paste the entire bible in a thread ..


So what if they do? I only posted a one page article and not a entire book. If one reads it or not is a choice. If one uses the information or not is a choice. I like to use both combos to enhance the conversation for I know that I don't know everything and like to find out more about things. I use the internet and listen to opinions also.

Lily0923's photo
Mon 05/05/08 01:17 PM

Well you believe I am one of the few, but perhaps you are one of the few that believes cut and paste is a terrible thing to do and uses so much distraction that it actually tips the whole earth more to one side destroying your ability to see what others looked up for. It doesn't bother me or makes a difference if one puts up a article to read. Or if one reads it and then crunches it down to the same words again in their own writing. Some people are appreciate people who go forth to find a answer on the internet. Sorry you are not flexible to do this.



Yes, please do go forth and find your own answers, but put them in your own words.

willfen's photo
Mon 05/05/08 01:18 PM


But then again I am only being self-serving and childish. And sometimes you have to leave people where you find them - even if that is blind and lost.


Will I look at it like this, If I asked you a queston on a subject you were versed about, then turned around and made a derogatory comment about it... after stating I knew nothing about the subject.

Wouldn't that upset you?
Yes it would..However the whole point of being 'enlightened' it to move past the emotional, animalistic response. So I would ALSO have asked myself why this would upset me, then would have gave myself a lot of reflection time by asking that person what he meant by that comment, lol.

Lily0923's photo
Mon 05/05/08 01:20 PM



But then again I am only being self-serving and childish. And sometimes you have to leave people where you find them - even if that is blind and lost.


Will I look at it like this, If I asked you a queston on a subject you were versed about, then turned around and made a derogatory comment about it... after stating I knew nothing about the subject.

Wouldn't that upset you?
Yes it would..However the whole point of being 'enlightened' it to move past the emotional, animalistic response. So I would ALSO have asked myself why this would upset me, then would have gave myself a lot of reflection time by asking that person what he meant by that comment, lol.


I knew what he meant by that comment.

willfen's photo
Mon 05/05/08 01:26 PM




But then again I am only being self-serving and childish. And sometimes you have to leave people where you find them - even if that is blind and lost.


Will I look at it like this, If I asked you a queston on a subject you were versed about, then turned around and made a derogatory comment about it... after stating I knew nothing about the subject.

Wouldn't that upset you?
Yes it would..However the whole point of being 'enlightened' it to move past the emotional, animalistic response. So I would ALSO have asked myself why this would upset me, then would have gave myself a lot of reflection time by asking that person what he meant by that comment, lol.


I knew what he meant by that comment.
laugh Would you stop! My point was that I would have ignored him!bigsmile

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Mon 05/05/08 01:27 PM
It's all black magic....and yes I agree with people will believe whatever it is that they think at that moment works. I brought up the book Kingdom of the cults for a good purpose. There are differences between religion and cults.....religion is based on usually the Bible....where cults imo are people who don't believe it or were hurt in some way and search for something that will fit what they need at the moment. It is not an easy thing to live as God intended, and if people cant for whatever reason they will switch it up to fit what they believe.

Voodoo is the darkest of magic.....and yes is considered a religion. And just for me all the dark magic, witches, satanism is all satan involved......Because for me anything that is not of God is of Satan.....If you truly know what voodoo is.......a voodoo priest will call on the diety which is satan......who thrives and lives on the weak and those that don't believe in God....Because if you have a relationship with God....he cannot touch you.

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Mon 05/05/08 01:29 PM

laugh Would you stop! My point was that I would have ignored him!bigsmile


laugh Oh then you should ignore me too....laugh laugh laugh

I'm kidding, I see your point...

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Mon 05/05/08 01:29 PM



Believe it or not that information that I got from the internet actually may have been benefecial to someone who didn't know much about voodoo. So I think many appreciate it. I am fully capable of discussing issues also.

Isn't that right Mr. Einstein. Ha halaugh


and that's the same reasoning people use to cut and paste the entire bible in a thread ..


So what if they do? I only posted a one page article and not a entire book. If one reads it or not is a choice. If one uses the information or not is a choice. I like to use both combos to enhance the conversation for I know that I don't know everything and like to find out more about things. I use the internet and listen to opinions also.


all I was saying was I rather hear your thoughts after you have read the article ...the article may not be accurate but you cutting and pasting it are assuming that it is ..