Topic: Is Voodo a cult or a religion?
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Mon 05/05/08 12:19 PM

http://www.waltermartin.com/cults.html



Wow alot to read, but thank you I will read this. It is interesting.:smile:

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Mon 05/05/08 12:21 PM

voodoo is just a game we play when we want to hex some onehappy


Do you believe it really works? I mean is it only possible that people who are affected by this magic only happens to those who truly believe in voodoo. Or do you think if one doesn't believe in it then it doesn't effect them??

I say this because one could read a horoscope and one could believe it and the likehood that day will happen, yet if you don't believe in the horoscope then there is no effect of that post from the horoscope?

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Mon 05/05/08 12:23 PM


voodoo is just a game we play when we want to hex some onehappy


Do you believe it really works? I mean is it only possible that people who are affected by this magic only happens to those who truly believe in voodoo. Or do you think if one doesn't believe in it then it doesn't effect them??

I say this because one could read a horoscope and one could believe it and the likehood that day will happen, yet if you don't believe in the horoscope then there is no effect of that post from the horoscope?


Nothing is real unless you believe it.

and to say that Voodoo is about hex's is ridiculous.

To say it is a cult that will brain wash you is upserd.

Most vodon members don't want outsiders...

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Mon 05/05/08 12:24 PM

I see nothing wrong with cut and paste and I even mentioned that I got the information from the internet if you read my last post. What is wrong with cut and paste? Are you trying to say you are a genius who knows everything and doesn't use information from any other source.


because in a forum of disucssion it's best to hear the debators own thoughts not the cut and paste thoughts of others also it is assumed that once something is cut and paste that it is automatically true and is not up for discussion simply because the author of the cut and paste is not in the forum to be questioned about what they have written in that cut and paste

but to get back on the subject why is sticking pins in a the voodoo dolls any different than someone saying God bless you

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Mon 05/05/08 12:27 PM
Serious question about Voodoo

Most people know that Voodoo is associated with using dolls to bring harm to enemies.

My question is,... do they ever use dolls for the purpose of protecting a friend or loved one from harm, or to cure a person from a disease etc.?

I really know nothing about voodoo as a serious spiritual practice. However, I do believe that almost all religions accept that thoughts can cause miraculous things to happen (even if those thoughts are merely expressed as prayers to their God). So in that context, using a doll to aid in the visualization of a prayer or throught process to manifest a thought actually makes sense.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:30 PM

Serious question about Voodoo

Most people know that Voodoo is associated with using dolls to bring harm to enemies.

My question is,... do they ever use dolls for the purpose of protecting a friend or loved one from harm, or to cure a person from a disease etc.?

I really know nothing about voodoo as a serious spiritual practice. However, I do believe that almost all religions accept that thoughts can cause miraculous things to happen (even if those thoughts are merely expressed as prayers to their God). So in that context, using a doll to aid in the visualization of a prayer or throught process to manifest a thought actually makes sense.


Yes, actually and in more cases than not it is used for positive energy, not negative hexing like is portrayed.

I'm not going to paint a fully flowerforyou bright happy and sunny picture of it, they are not afraid to call on the dark gods/goddesses.

However they pray for the same things peace, love, light, healing energy ect ect. They also call for vengence and that sort of thing too.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:35 PM


I see nothing wrong with cut and paste and I even mentioned that I got the information from the internet if you read my last post. What is wrong with cut and paste? Are you trying to say you are a genius who knows everything and doesn't use information from any other source.


because in a forum of disucssion it's best to hear the debators own thoughts not the cut and paste thoughts of others also it is assumed that once something is cut and paste that it is automatically true and is not up for discussion simply because the author of the cut and paste is not in the forum to be questioned about what they have written in that cut and paste

but to get back on the subject why is sticking pins in a the voodoo dolls any different than someone saying God bless you


I wasn't criticizing the cult or religion. Just mentioning that it is done.

Believe it or not that information that I got from the internet actually may have been benefecial to someone who didn't know much about voodoo. So I think many appreciate it. I am fully capable of discussing issues also.

Isn't that right Mr. Einstein. Ha halaugh

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Mon 05/05/08 12:37 PM
When I see a clear cut and paste..... I totally ignore it. I'm certainly not into it, in fact just the opposite.

I look for words. If you did not know anything other than just the dolls, why not ask? There seems to be several people in here who know. Then, if others want to look on their own, they can.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:37 PM

Serious question about Voodoo

Most people know that Voodoo is associated with using dolls to bring harm to enemies.

My question is,... do they ever use dolls for the purpose of protecting a friend or loved one from harm, or to cure a person from a disease etc.?

I really know nothing about voodoo as a serious spiritual practice. However, I do believe that almost all religions accept that thoughts can cause miraculous things to happen (even if those thoughts are merely expressed as prayers to their God). So in that context, using a doll to aid in the visualization of a prayer or throught process to manifest a thought actually makes sense.


I guess using a doll can be used to help aid a belief or wish, but do you truly think wishing for another person to get hurt is really a good omen? I mean as far as I understand if one uses pins to pin a doll of a person this usually means that they wish that person to have a accident? Or is this all hollywood derived movie senses?

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Mon 05/05/08 12:41 PM

When I see a clear cut and paste..... I totally ignore it. I'm certainly not into it, in fact just the opposite.

I look for words. If you did not know anything other than just the dolls, why not ask? There seems to be several people in here who know. Then, if others want to look on their own, they can.


My goodness perhaps we should put up a huge sign: Warning don't cut and paste for that would ruin a whole conversation in a room. I mean "Verboten!" because this information could ruin somebodies effect in keeping a conversation going. I on the other hand as for many others don't mind to have occassionally a cute and paste to read sometimes. It helps us understand more about a subject we talk about.

Please what next are you not allowed to do. I am flexible enough to read something that someone found the time to look for and present to everyone and am able to listen to someones opinion or knowledge on the matter.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:44 PM
Edited by willfen on Mon 05/05/08 12:46 PM
You know I leave you guys for a couple of hours and this is what it turns into. Someone gets offended and retaliates by showing off their intellectual and arrogant prowess.

The whole point of religion is that it IS personal and subjective. You cannot truly expect people to see eye to eye because they are raised differently and experience life differently. We are subjective, arrogant creatures.

What started out as a GREAT question has once again turned into a'my religion is better than your religion' debate and now feelings and emotions are involved because SOMEONE decided they did not want to respect another's opinion and made the deliberate decision to take offense to that opinion.

So to that person, while you may be 'defending your faith' and 'calling someone out' to set the record straight, in my humble opinion, you are simply being childish by demeaning any opinion that doesn't agree with yours and you are using your eloquent and educated opinion as a weapon, which takes all the learning, interacting, and fun out of this forum.

People can and should be allowed to express ANY viewpoint and opinion they want in this forum. Get use to it!

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Mon 05/05/08 12:46 PM
Here is another good question I think.

Religions usually teach that one should not wish bad to others. Am I correct? I mean yes there are many religions that say if you don't believe in them you go to hell or somewhere, but they all teach to do good things in the long run right?

So if one practices a belief that also teaches one can harm someone would it still be called a religion or actually is it called then a cult?

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Mon 05/05/08 12:47 PM
Will~~ Hear Hear!

And you did it in your OWN words. Double Hear Hear!

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Mon 05/05/08 12:49 PM

I am flexible enough to read something that someone found the time to look for and present to everyone and am able to listen to someones opinion or knowledge on the matter.


Hmmmm. Glad you are flexible. laugh I expressed my opinion and you turned that into a rule. Sure your flexible? Or just assuming?

And um.... you had the opportunity to ask for opinions and knowledge and chose to cut and paste. It is rather ridiculous. But again, that is JMO.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:52 PM

Will~~ Hear Hear!

And you did it in your OWN words. Double Hear Hear!


Again I will cut and paste something when I feel like it. I know many who appreciate it. This is not your forum to decide how one should discuss about certain topics. I appreciate anyones effort to get out of their way to find information on the topic and if they find something that is interesting to post on a forum then I will always invite it.

Now to your sarcasm many know me to conduct great conversations without resorting to other peoples information. If anything you have lowered yourself by insulting my intelligence to not be able to conduct my own questions or knowledge. Rather you want to believe it or not your opinion and knowledge is derived from what you learned from others!


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Mon 05/05/08 12:52 PM
all i care about is the zombies.......sick

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Mon 05/05/08 12:54 PM


I am flexible enough to read something that someone found the time to look for and present to everyone and am able to listen to someones opinion or knowledge on the matter.


Hmmmm. Glad you are flexible. laugh I expressed my opinion and you turned that into a rule. Sure your flexible? Or just assuming?

And um.... you had the opportunity to ask for opinions and knowledge and chose to cut and paste. It is rather ridiculous. But again, that is JMO.


I clearly did ask for a opinion in many occassions and received them from people who are not offended if they read a cut and paste article. They also are able to listen to others without insulting someone for giving a opinion.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:54 PM


Will~~ Hear Hear!

And you did it in your OWN words. Double Hear Hear!


Again I will cut and paste something when I feel like it. I know many who appreciate it. This is not your forum to decide how one should discuss about certain topics. I appreciate anyones effort to get out of their way to find information on the topic and if they find something that is interesting to post on a forum then I will always invite it.

Now to your sarcasm many know me to conduct great conversations without resorting to other peoples information. If anything you have lowered yourself by insulting my intelligence to not be able to conduct my own questions or knowledge. Rather you want to believe it or not your opinion and knowledge is derived from what you learned from others!




No one saud you can't dude. I just said I didn't read it and why. Now you are freaking out and acting as though I tried to say you could not do it.... ever. It's very funny.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:54 PM


Serious question about Voodoo

Most people know that Voodoo is associated with using dolls to bring harm to enemies.

My question is,... do they ever use dolls for the purpose of protecting a friend or loved one from harm, or to cure a person from a disease etc.?

I really know nothing about voodoo as a serious spiritual practice. However, I do believe that almost all religions accept that thoughts can cause miraculous things to happen (even if those thoughts are merely expressed as prayers to their God). So in that context, using a doll to aid in the visualization of a prayer or throught process to manifest a thought actually makes sense.


I guess using a doll can be used to help aid a belief or wish, but do you truly think wishing for another person to get hurt is really a good omen? I mean as far as I understand if one uses pins to pin a doll of a person this usually means that they wish that person to have a accident? Or is this all hollywood derived movie senses?


But they don't believe in bad karma per say... they believe their "spells" will ward off any negative energies.

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Mon 05/05/08 12:55 PM

They also are able to listen to others without insulting someone for giving a opinion.


Which is EXACTLY what you did to me for giving mine.

Hypocrite.