voodoo blessings is the same as a believer that is asking to be blessed ..those that perform the rituals are called priest or priestess as like those that perform rituals in the christian religion and those that actually can perform magic is the same as a saint that performed a miracle ...

VooDoo, is Belief, a Heratage, a Culture,a Path, a Faith, a Way of Ones Lives, Passed down from Generation to Generation ,Apprentices carry on the Knowledge for the Future.

I have come to understand voodoo as a highly respectable religion. For the most part, it is a simple theology to help the people understand and respond to the joys and tragedies of everyday life.

I have not studied it thoroughly; there is no "Voodoo Bible."

I have, however, studied it in the lives of those who practice it.

My basic debate is this.

There is only One true Creator (God), He who designed the heavens and the earth, and all that is within it. His desire for man was that man might have free will; this would set him apart from all creation. It was the Creator's desire that man should choose 'Love'. Man's choice to Love would be the foundation of a perfect, infinite world, someday.

To accommodate free will, darkness was introduced as well. Darkness comes in many forms, but is anything that "exalts itself above the Most High God."

Religion was messed up to begin within Haiti when slaves were forced to practice the Catholicism of their masters. It is no wonder voodoo was introduced and "married to" the catholic church of that era and environment. It was by accident that this 'marriage' was the primary leverage that led to the unification of the overall slave population and the ensuing revolution that led to Haiti's independence.

The voodoo influence led to a nation dedicated to Satan. It’s in the history books under Boukman.

Two hundred years later we witness Haiti as the poorest nation (materially) in the Western Hemisphere. But to witness her personally, intimately, one would quickly agree, she is the richest spiritually.

Most Haitians would agree, the glory days are over for voodoo. Most Haitians would also agree that any progress that has strengthened the nation and its people has come from Western Christian influence. Most Haitians would also agree that voodoo has intimidated and held the population captive to exploitation. Haiti is little more than a slave state now, as it is.

Those who are finding true liberty are finding it through the shed blood of Jesus Christ. For whom the Son sets free, that one is free indeed.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you.

If yours is the TRUE religion why did mine come first?

If yours is the TRUE religion why did your religion kill and destroy mine for hundreds of years?

I'm not doubting the validity of your religion, but it is arrogant to ASSUME yours is right, looking at the evidence from a fully slanted view.

Just because I don't pray to YOUR God doesn't make mine any less real or valid, just becsuse YOUR bible, which is different from sect to sect by the way, teaches love and honor and respect, how does it mean that mine doesn't?

Because I prefer to worship in nature and not a builiding, that makes mine less valid?

What is it about these other religions that make them not valid in your eyes?

Did I say that? hmmm I don't remember saying mine was the True Religion.......and yes yours did come first.....but doesn't mean it's right either. Headhunters were around before voodoo does it make headhunting right just because it was first....hmmmm I think not.

are you saying that your religion is right and hers is wrong? that just isn't right. I don't think you should go there.

Headhunting is not, but it has also not stood the test of time. So that arguement is null and void, if you chose, to compair, please do so with one that exsist today.

And your proof that "my religion" killed yours....where do you people come up with your information. And why such hostility....I have no anger....I'm just answering what was put forth. And I don't assume anything.......I am answering the thread......And you sweets can pray to anything you want...I am not your judge.....And actually just for your information which I can pull up all the evidence if you require it...The Bible context has not changed in 2000 years.

And now your assuming I worship buildings......hmmmm again you don't know one lil thing about be....so who is assuming here. I worship my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ......His Father God, and the true and unfalable word of God....(the Bible) I don't worship buildings.....and just so you can understand a lil about me......look at my name....I love God's planet and all that inhabit it...And I go out of my way to protect all that is living on this earth.......so be careful about casting the first stone...

Actually headhunting is still practiced in the rain forest of Brazil...

hun- she said worship "in" a building.

Judaism remains as it is today, unchanged from the last of the prophets that sopke, saying, "thus saith the Lord".

Today, not that Judaism is altered, Christianity is truly next step in the same story wherein there are no prohets saysng, "thus saith the Lord", but the Church of jesus Christ is those called the saints, wherein abides the Holy Spirit to testify of the Son of God, Jesus, and the truth from God included in the last 'prophet' of Judaism who declared clearly and succinctly that he the Lord that the prophets of old were speaking for when they spoke, "thus saith the Lord".

That ended the age of the prophets and God then spoke exclusively through the Son, the only begotten of the Father.

Now God speaks directly to individuals, not to the Nation i=of Israel as before.

he speaks directly to the individal for the individual's sake, not for the whole's sake.

It remains that Jews are welcome to partake of God speaking to them in this way if they so choose.

But it doesn't disannul that Jews have faith to believe that Jesus was not that LORD, that spoke to their fathers through the prophets of old.

All that is apparent is that the prophets no longer speak for the LORD.

That age ended 400 years before Jesus was baptised.

And to that , the jews were intently listening, for they were hungry for the Word of God after 400 years of silence.

The rub comes when they didn't like the Word of the LORD given, to those that didn't accept him.

Apart from that, there is now 2400 years of silence of prophetic utterance.

What Christianity bears for the evils done to Jews in Jesus' nme is not forgiven by God.

Nor is God in that.

Nor is Christianity the cause.

Evil men usurping the authority of the church are.

Christianity suufers the wrong for that.

Christianity has survived to quench that.

Christianity will always quench that.

It is an arduous task for contemporary Christians born again with the Holy Spirit to bear and fight against.

The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but spiritual and we battle spiritual wickedness for the good of all mankind through the Spirit of God.

In the end, the Jews are part and parcel to all of the truth in Christianity and are not frsaken by the LORD at all.

Scripture and the New Testament have been preserved to remind even the Church of that fact from God.

To know the Holy Spirit is to know this.

To believe one that says the Holy Spirit does say this is a matter of faith.

The Holy Spirit will tell this directly for Himself to any.

Seek God and God will answer for Himself.

But the same Holy Spirit also testifies of the Son of God.

That, for most Jews, is not believed.

That does not mean the Jews are rejected by God.

It means that God no longer leaves the trust for His Words to men.

God speaks for God.

Christianity preserves the record of that covenant.

Which is always open to all Jews to embrace.

That is a choice which in no ways villifies Jews.

Doubt and unbelief in Christianity is the only thing preventing a Jew from knowing the certainty of that.

And no man may judge that.

God is the judge.

OK Wouldee, I may be simple, but I am not making the leap into how your post answers the question?

Feral, your still imposing your opinion of "dark" into the beliefs of others.

Wouldee, judaism as you put it, has changed and evolved, there are passages in the bible that have been disregarded, such as the statement that a man should take more than one wife rather then commit adultery, is the one that comes to mind but there are others.

Religion is a faith based belief. NOONE is more right then any other. They are all the same.

I believe that lilith will understand.

Vague as it is, though.

I hope so.

sorry for that then.......my bad.....and I worship right out it the majesty of his world.....in my car, in my home, in the grocery store.....

I am putting the information out there....what people do with it.......is entirely up to them.....And I don't judge for anyone's beliefs....not my job.

Feral,

I really like that response, mind if I use it from now on?

JB

A little thing called the Inquisition is where yours killed mine. Another event in American History called "The Salem Witch Trials" those are the two biggest ones... but I'm sure I could name about a hundred more.

The bible has many different "editions".

I never said you worship buildings I said you worship in them.

Here's One Bit of Proof, and this is for Real!!

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Cover of the seventh Cologne edition of the Malleus Maleficarum, 1520 (from the University of Sydney Library). The Latin title is "MALLEUS MALEFICARUM, Maleficas, & earum hæresim, ut phramea potentissima conterens." (English: The Hammer of Witches which destroyeth Witches and their heresy like a most powerful spear.)[1]The Malleus Maleficarum[2](Latin for "The Hammer of Witches", or "Hexenhammer" in German) is a famous treatise on witches, written in 1486 by Heinrich Kramer and Jacob Sprenger, and was first published in Germany in 1487.[3] The main purpose of the Malleus was to systematically refute all arguments against the reality of witchcraft, refute those who expressed even the slightest skepticism about its reality, to prove that witches were more often women than men, and to educate magistrates on the procedures that could find them out and convict them.[4]

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1 Genesis
2 Contents
3 Major themes
4 Reasons for popularity
5 Consequences
6 Notes
7 References
8 External links



[edit] Genesis
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The Malleus Maleficarum was published in 1487 by Heinrich Kramer (Latinized Institoris) and Jacob Sprenger. However, most modern scholars believe that Jacob Sprenger contributed little if anything to the work besides his illustrious name.[5] Sprenger and Kramer were both Dominican friars and Inquisitors.[6]

In 1484, Kramer had tried to prosecute witchcraft in the bishopric of Trent but was blocked by local ecclesiastical authorities. Kramer requested papal support and attained it via the papal bull Summis desiderantes affectibus, which recognized the existence of witches and gave full papal approval for the Inquisition to prosecute witchcraft.[7] However, after local authorities still blocked his attempts, Kramer directed his energies to the composition of the Malleus. He drew on earlier sources like the Johannes Nider's treatise Formicarius, written 1435/37.[8] Kramer used the papal bull as the preface for the Malleus, giving the false impression that Innocent VIII had endorsed the Malleus when in fact the bull had endorsed Kramer as an inquisitor and not his (then unwritten) work.

Kramer and Sprenger submitted the Malleus Maleficarum to the University of Cologne’s Faculty of Theology on May 9, 1487, hoping for its endorsement. Instead, the faculty condemned it as both unethical and illegal.[9] Nevertheless, Kramer inserted an endorsement from the University into subsequent editions.[citation needed] The Catholic Church banned the book in 1490, placing it on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum.[citation needed]

Despite this, it became the handbook for witch-hunters and Inquisitors throughout Late Medieval Europe. Between the years 1487 and 1520, the work was published thirteen times. It was again published between the years of 1574 to 1669 a total of sixteen times. The papal bull and endorsements which appear at the beginning of the book contributed to its popularity by giving the illusion that it had been granted approval.

The Malleus marked an important turn in the approach to witchcraft. The reality of witchcraft had been denied by the church in earlier centuries but now became accepted as a real and dangerous heresy.[10]


[edit] Contents
The Malleus Maleficarum asserts that three elements are necessary for witchcraft: the evil-intentioned witch, the help of the Devil, and the Permission of God.[11] The treatise is divided up into three sections. The first section refutes critics who denied the reality of witchcraft, thereby hindering its prosecution. The second section describes the actual forms of witchcraft and its remedies. The third section is to assist judges confronting and combating witchcraft. However, each of these three sections has the prevailing themes of what is witchcraft and who is a witch. The Malleus Maleficarum can hardly be called an original text, for it heavily relies upon earlier works such as Visconti, Torquemada and, most famously, Johannes Nider's Formicarius (1435).[12]

Section I

Section I argues that because the Devil exists and has the power to do astounding things, witches exist to help, if done through the aid of the Devil and with the permission of God.[13] The Devil’s power is greatest where human sexuality is concerned, for it was believed that women were more sexual than men. Loose women had sex with the Devil, thus paving their way to become witches. To quote the Malleus “all witchcraft comes from carnal lust, which is in women insatiable.”

Section II

In section II of the Malleus Maleficarum, the authors turn to matters of practice by discussing actual cases. This section first discusses the powers of witches, and then goes into recruitment strategies.[14] It is mostly witches as opposed to the Devil who do the recruiting, by making something go wrong in the life of a respectable matron that makes her consult the knowledge of a witch, or by introducing young maidens to tempting young devils.[15] This section also details how witches cast spells and remedies that can be taken to prevent witchcraft or help those that have been affected by it.[16]

Section III

Section III is the legal part of the Malleus that describes how to prosecute a witch. The arguments are clearly laid for the lay magistrates prosecuting witches. Institoris and Sprenger offer a step-by-step guide to the conduct of a witch trial, from the method of initiating the process and assembling accusations, to the interrogation (including torture) of witnesses, and the formal charging of the accused.[17] Women who did not cry during their trial were automatically believed to be witches.[18]


[edit] Major themes
Misogyny runs rampant in the Malleus Maleficarum. The treatise singled out women as specifically inclined for witchcraft, because they were susceptible to demonic temptations through their manifold weaknesses. It was believed that they were weaker in faith and were more carnal than men.[19] Most of the women accused as witches had strong personalities and were known to defy convention by overstepping the lines of proper female decorum.[20] After the publication of the Malleus, most of those who were prosecuted as witches were women.[21] Indeed, the very title of the Malleus Maleficarum is feminine, alluding to the idea that it was women who were the evil-doers. Otherwise, it would be the Malleus Maleficorum (the masculine form of the Latin noun maleficus or malefica, 'witch'), which would mean The Hammer of (Male) Witches. It should be noted that in Latin the feminine "Maleficarum" would only be used for women while the masculine "Maleficorum" could be used for either sex.[22]

The Malleus Maleficarum accuses witches of infanticide, cannibalism, casting evil spells to harm their enemies, and having the power to steal men’s penises. It goes on to give accounts of witches committing these crimes.

The Malleus Maleficarum was heavily influenced by humanistic ideologies. The ancient subjects of astronomy, philosophy, and medicine were being reintroduced to the West at this time, as well as a plethora of ancient texts being rediscovered and studied. The Malleus often makes reference to the Bible and Aristotelian thought, and it is also heavily influenced by the philosophical tenets of Neo-Platonism.[23] It also mentions astrology and astronomy, which had recently been reintroduced to the West by the ancient works of Pythagoras.[24]


[edit] Reasons for popularity
The Malleus Maleficarum was able to spread throughout Europe so rapidly in the late fifteenth and the beginning of the sixteenth century due to the innovation of the printing press in the middle of the fifteenth century by Johannes Gutenberg. That printing should have been invented thirty years before the first publication of the Malleus, which instigated the fervor of witch hunting, and, in the words of Russell, "the swift propagation of the witch hysteria by the press was the first evidence that Gutenberg had not liberated man from original sin."[25] The Malleus is also heavily influenced by the subjects of divination, astrology, and healing rituals the Church inherited from antiquity.[26]

The late fifteenth century was also a period of religious turmoil, for the Protestant Reformation was but a few decades in the future. The Malleus Maleficarum and the witch craze that ensued took advantage of the increasing intolerance of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation in Europe, where the Protestant and Catholic camps each zealously strove to maintain the purity of faith.[27]


[edit] Consequences
Between 1487 and 1520, twenty editions of the Malleus were published, and another sixteen editions were published between 1574 to 1669.[28] Popular accounts suggest that the extensive publishing of the Malleus Maleficarum in 1487 launched centuries of witch-hunts in Europe. Estimations of deaths have varied widely, however the more commonly accepted estimates are between 40,000 and 100,000 people, mostly women, because they were accused as witches. However, as some researchers have noted, the fact that the Malleus was popular does not imply that it accurately reflected or influenced actual practice; one researcher compared it to confusing a "television docu-drama" with "actual court proceedings." Estimates about the impact of the Malleus should thus be weighed accordingly.


[edit] Notes
^ The English translation is from this note to Summers' 1928 introduction.
^ Translator Montague Summers consistently uses "the Malleus Maleficarum" (or simply "the Malleus") in his 1928 and 1948 introductions. [1] [2]
^ Ruickbie (2004), 71, highlights the problems of dating; Ankarloo (2002), 239
^ Ankarloo, 240
^ Russell (1972), 230
^ Broedel (2003), p. 20.
^ Russell, 229.
^ Bailey (2003), 30
^ History of the Malleus Maleficarum by Jenny Gibbons
^ Trevor-Roper (1968), 102-105
^ Russell, 232
^ Russell, 279
^ Broedel, 22
^ Broedel, 30
^ Broedel, 30
^ Mackay, 214
^ Broedel, 34
^ Mackay, 502
^ Bailey, 49
^ Bailey, 51
^ Russell, 145
^ Maxwell-Stewart, 30
^ Kieckhefer (2000), 145
^ Kieckhefer, 146
^ Russell, 234
^ Ankarloo, 77
^ Henningsen (1980), 15
^ Russell, 79

[edit] References
Ankarloo, Bengt (ed.); Stuart Clark (ed.) (2002). Witchcraft and Magic in Europe, Volume 3: The Middle Ages. University of Pennsylvania Press. ISBN 0812217861.
Bailey, Michael D. (2003). Battling Demons: Witchcraft, Heresy, and Reform in the Late Middle Ages. Pennsylvania State University Press. ISBN 0271022264.
Broedel, Hans Peter (2004). The Malleus Maleficarum and the Construction of Witchcraft: Theology and Popular Belief. Manchester University Press. ISBN 0719064414.
Flint, Valerie. The Rise of Magic in Early Medieval Europe. Princeton University Press. Princeton, NJ. 1991
Hamilton, Alastair (May 2007). "Review of Malleus Maleficarum edited and translated by Christopher S. Mackay and two other books". Heythrop Journal 48 (3): 477-479. doi:10.1111/j.1468-2265.2007.00325_12.x .
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Henningsen, Gustav. The Witches' Advocate: Basque Witchcraft and the Spanish Inquisition. University of Nevada Press. Reno, NV. 1980
Institoris, Heinrich; Jakob Sprenger (1520). Malleus maleficarum, maleficas, & earum haeresim, ut phramea potentissima conterens. Coloniae: Excudebat Ioannes Gymnicus.
This is the edition held by the University of Sydney Library. [3]
Kieckhefer, Richard. Magic in the Middle Ages. Cambridge University Press. Cambridge, England. 2000
Mackay, Christopher S. (2006). Malleus Maleficarum (2 volumes). Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521859778. (Latin) (English) (bibrec) (editor's home page)
Volume 1 is the Latin text of the first edition of 1486-7 with annotations and an introduction. Volume 2 is an English translation with explanatory notes.
Maxwell-Stewart, P.G. (2001). Witchcraft in Europe and the New World. New York: Palgrave.
Ruickbie, Leo (2004). Witchcraft Out of the Shadows. London: Robert Hale. ISBN 0709075677.
Russell, Jeffrey Burton (1972 repr. 1984). Witchcraft in the Middle Ages. Ithaca, NY: Cornell University Press. ISBN 0801492890. (bibrec)
Summers, Montague (1948 repr. 1971). The Malleus Maleficarum of Kramer and Sprenger, ed. and trans. by Summers, Dover Publications. ISBN 0486228029.
Thurston, Robert W. (Nov 2006). "The world, the flesh and the devil". History Today 56 (11): 51-57. (payment required for full text)
Trevor-Roper, H.R. (1967). The European Witch-Craze: of the sixteenth and Seventeenth Centuries and Other Essays. New York: Harper Collins.

[edit] External links
Malleus Maleficarum - Online version of Latin text and scanned pages of Malleus Maleficarum published in 1580.
Malleus Maleficarum - Full text of the 1928 English translation by Montague Summers. His 1948 introduction is also included.
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