Topic: How many Smokers feel 2nd class?
scttrbrain's photo
Sun 05/04/08 08:04 AM
Edited by scttrbrain on Sun 05/04/08 08:07 AM
I read the first page as it is long. Soooo, yeah, I smoke. I try and try to quit. I live in the house with a smoker. She just can't give them up and I try and quit and try and try, but living in the house with her makes it virtually impossible.

I hate the smell of cigarrette smoke. I hate the taste. It makes our faces look ruddy. But I still do it.

I have no problem not smoking where people do not. I have no problem leaving them alone around other people. I respect the rights of others to not have to deal with my ugly problem.

I know it is hurting me. I know how I smell. I smell it on smokers when they walk by me. It's putrid. Do I like saying that? No. I do not. But, it is true.

I do know that people that do not smoke can't ever understand how hard it is to stop. I am miserable wanting to stop, but have no chance, I don't think. Not living with a smoker anyway.

I do not smoke around my sons. I will not ever smoke around my grandson. When he comes down, I make sure I have showered and wash my hands and face even before I pick him up.

My kids worry about me. I worry about what I am doing to myself.

Is it enough? Apparently not. I haven't been successful yet.

It pisses me off that my mom cannot support my sister in her trying to quit. She has cancer. It pisses me off that I cannot put them down because I use my mom as an excuse to not quit to support my sister. I tried recently to put them down. Mom said she would. I would come home from work to that nasty smell. Then she began to smoke again in front of me.

If it stinks to me as a smoker, and even worse everytime I try to quit, then why can't I put them down?

I had the patch...only way that was gonna work was to put it over my mouth or roll it up and smoke it.

The gum tastes like hell. I have a prescription for Chantix, but cannot afford it.

I can smell a smoker many feet away. That embarrasses me. Cause I know I smell that way too.

Our breaks at work have to be away from the front door. When that door opens, I can smell the cigs smoke come in. It is nasty.

Now all that being said; I wish myself that they would just dissapear. Gone...no more.

But, in all honest, many people who complain about cigs are pot smokers. Or drinkers. That bothers me as well. I can smell pot on people when they pass me by anywhere. The alcohol is the same. It smells horrible.

In all honesty, there are so many of us committing slow suicide. I am weak, they are weak. Quiting drugs was so much easier than cigs.

I am very self conscious of myself when smoking. I feel less than those that don't. Guilty maybe.

A feel bad moment was; A little girl with her mother and dad walked by and she looked at me and said "mom.....she's smoking a cigarrette" in a whispered voice, as I saw the fear in her eyes. Was her fear the knowing that it will kill me?
Whatever it is...know this:
We do not need to be ostercised for our weakness or failings. Who out there is perfect? Or hasn't done something offensive to others? Some of us feel bad enough for our ignorance.

Kat




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Sun 05/04/08 09:04 AM

I read the first page as it is long. Soooo, yeah, I smoke. I try and try to quit. I live in the house with a smoker. She just can't give them up and I try and quit and try and try, but living in the house with her makes it virtually impossible.

I hate the smell of cigarrette smoke. I hate the taste. It makes our faces look ruddy. But I still do it.

I have no problem not smoking where people do not. I have no problem leaving them alone around other people. I respect the rights of others to not have to deal with my ugly problem.

I know it is hurting me. I know how I smell. I smell it on smokers when they walk by me. It's putrid. Do I like saying that? No. I do not. But, it is true.

I do know that people that do not smoke can't ever understand how hard it is to stop. I am miserable wanting to stop, but have no chance, I don't think. Not living with a smoker anyway.

I do not smoke around my sons. I will not ever smoke around my grandson. When he comes down, I make sure I have showered and wash my hands and face even before I pick him up.

My kids worry about me. I worry about what I am doing to myself.

Is it enough? Apparently not. I haven't been successful yet.

It pisses me off that my mom cannot support my sister in her trying to quit. She has cancer. It pisses me off that I cannot put them down because I use my mom as an excuse to not quit to support my sister. I tried recently to put them down. Mom said she would. I would come home from work to that nasty smell. Then she began to smoke again in front of me.

If it stinks to me as a smoker, and even worse everytime I try to quit, then why can't I put them down?

I had the patch...only way that was gonna work was to put it over my mouth or roll it up and smoke it.

The gum tastes like hell. I have a prescription for Chantix, but cannot afford it.

I can smell a smoker many feet away. That embarrasses me. Cause I know I smell that way too.

Our breaks at work have to be away from the front door. When that door opens, I can smell the cigs smoke come in. It is nasty.

Now all that being said; I wish myself that they would just dissapear. Gone...no more.

But, in all honest, many people who complain about cigs are pot smokers. Or drinkers. That bothers me as well. I can smell pot on people when they pass me by anywhere. The alcohol is the same. It smells horrible.

In all honesty, there are so many of us committing slow suicide. I am weak, they are weak. Quiting drugs was so much easier than cigs.

I am very self conscious of myself when smoking. I feel less than those that don't. Guilty maybe.

A feel bad moment was; A little girl with her mother and dad walked by and she looked at me and said "mom.....she's smoking a cigarrette" in a whispered voice, as I saw the fear in her eyes. Was her fear the knowing that it will kill me?
Whatever it is...know this:
We do not need to be ostercised for our weakness or failings. Who out there is perfect? Or hasn't done something offensive to others? Some of us feel bad enough for our ignorance.

Kat


You think its hard to quit and it will be. It isn't that bad if you can make past the first three days. I sat on my hands literally or would cross my arms and hold them really tight. I then told that junky part of me to go ahead and a smoke. My body won the fight. I don't want to die early in life because of smoking. That was my motivation.

I spent the time cleaning my place completely and there were yellow nicotine stains on everything. I have no doubt I was able to ge a little bit of a fix off it but that made me more intent on cleaning it all. I replaced all my furniture. I bought all new clothes and started an exercise program. The idea of smoking again and ruining my self, the furniture and my clothes is a great psychological reinforcement. It's not going to happen.

You can quit cold turkey, anyone can. People build it into this really bad thing. That will make it into a "oh I can't do this." They light up again. If you make it past the first 3 days the nicotine is out of your body. It is then a psychological battle.

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Sun 05/04/08 09:14 AM
I wish. I have made it three weeks. Three months even, years ago. Yes, it felt good. Food tasted different, smelled different. I loved it. I was proud. But, when my husband quit smoking, I did. When he started again, I tried to hold fast. Didn't work. The impulse was too much.

Even now....when I put them down, even for three days, I come home and everything smells like it again. My mom will be smoking and it is just too hard to deal with. If I quit, I need there to be no smoking anywhere around me in my own home, especially.

I am glad you had the strength to quit. Did others smoke around you in your home? I also went in and began to wash things off again. Feeling good about it. I threaten my mom with I will paint the house if you stop with me. I will not do all that work for nothing. If I try and paint the nicotine away, I do not want to have to do it again.

I DO WANT TO QUIT. IN THE WORSE WAY. I AM WEAK BEHIND THOSE DAMN THINGS. DO I KNOW IT IS KILLING ME? YES. DO I WANT IT TOO?? NO.

Kat

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Sun 05/04/08 09:31 AM

I wish. I have made it three weeks. Three months even, years ago. Yes, it felt good. Food tasted different, smelled different. I loved it. I was proud. But, when my husband quit smoking, I did. When he started again, I tried to hold fast. Didn't work. The impulse was too much.

Even now....when I put them down, even for three days, I come home and everything smells like it again. My mom will be smoking and it is just too hard to deal with. If I quit, I need there to be no smoking anywhere around me in my own home, especially.

I am glad you had the strength to quit. Did others smoke around you in your home? I also went in and began to wash things off again. Feeling good about it. I threaten my mom with I will paint the house if you stop with me. I will not do all that work for nothing. If I try and paint the nicotine away, I do not want to have to do it again.

I DO WANT TO QUIT. IN THE WORSE WAY. I AM WEAK BEHIND THOSE DAMN THINGS. DO I KNOW IT IS KILLING ME? YES. DO I WANT IT TOO?? NO.

Kat


Lay down the law. Why allow them to smoke around you? Tell them to do it outside.

I live alone but I know the urge, you can put up with saying no only so much and then your head gives in. One puff and you are addicted physically again. There is no "oh maybe just one." It's an all or nothing thing.

I took great pleasure in throwing away everything smoking related. I threw things into the trash like I was angry at what it had done to my family and myself. I still get an occasional pang to smoke but I know that it will go away. I was under a great deal of stress last week and saw a gentlemen my age light up. He looked like he really was enjoying it as he exhaled. I thought for a about 5 seconds that would be great and then realized that he is going to die before I will because he smokes.

I will never smoke again. Never. Making it situations like that reinforces it more and more.

Do this when you feel that pang to smoke AFTER the 3 days of quitting. Wait. If the urge comes don't act on it. Look at the clock instead. Wait. A marvelous thing will happen I guarantee you. Within an hour you will not want that smoke. Your will power will be back in place. Keep doing it every time you feel that pang to smoke. I have it down to 3 seconds. When I first quit it was more like 15 minutes. I would congratulate myself each time I did not act on my impulse to smoke. I knew I could beat it. One puff and you are hooked again. Keep remembering that too. Don't do one puff or you are back to where you started. You can do it. I believe in you. Believe in yourself! You can do it.

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Sun 05/04/08 09:35 AM
Another thing when they go outside to have their smoke shake your head at them. Don't wish you were with them. Look at it clinically, realize you are looking at their addiction. I feel sorry for smokers now. I see them puffing on it without even thinking it's not because they want to relax it's something they do subconciously.

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Sun 05/04/08 11:59 AM


I am an exsmoker and I am sorry I think these laws are getting out of hand. When are they going to tell you that you can not smoke in you own home. The other thing is WHO are they going to TAX to death when the Government needs more money? Good luck all you smokers.


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Smoking causes cancer and it is stinky as hell . Second hand smoke is also a factor in cancer . So smoking should be outlawed to protect your own health and the health of all people .


Eating bacon and eggs supposedly raises your cholesterol. Plastic containers are now found to be toxic. And don't even think about drinking water! God knows what's in that!!! My point is that many things can be bad for us. Where does the regulation end? And who's going to pay for the enforcement of these laws that regulate every aspect of our lives? Can we send the bill to you?glasses glasses smokin drinker

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Sun 05/04/08 03:02 PM
I dont make you eat my eggs..... or stick plastic in your face.... thats the difference. Smokers who expect others to put up with thier habit are just selfish and rude. wanna smoke? fine. What if the rest of us dont? Do you have the right to endanger the rest of us? I think not.

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Sun 05/04/08 03:13 PM

I dont make you eat my eggs..... or stick plastic in your face.... thats the difference. Smokers who expect others to put up with thier habit are just selfish and rude. wanna smoke? fine. What if the rest of us dont? Do you have the right to endanger the rest of us? I think not.


i can't believe you're still here -- smokers don't expect you to put up with anything, our habit is ours and ours alone. it doesn't make us selfish or rude, it just makes us smokers. apparently the government doesn't think we're putting you in as much danger as you've made up your mind to be in, so buy an mask and an oxygen tank and leave us alone -- the original idea behind the OP's post, albeit humorous.

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Sun 05/04/08 03:18 PM

I dont make you eat my eggs..... or stick plastic in your face.... thats the difference. Smokers who expect others to put up with thier habit are just selfish and rude. wanna smoke? fine. What if the rest of us dont? Do you have the right to endanger the rest of us? I think not.


Rambill? when are you going to give this uplaugh There are smokers all over the world and there is nothing your going to be able to do about it. So sufferlaugh

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Sun 05/04/08 03:35 PM
I feel sorry for smoker s and for myself as a smoker. I have made it three days as of today. Granted I have the Chantix but no matter, no cigs. I am an addict. I will be an ex-smoker but always a smoker. I will have to hold my breath everytime I have to walk past the crowded people outside smoking at the college I attend. I will have to understand that I was and still am just like them and alwyas will be. For the rest of my life there will always be a timeeven if for just a second that I will want to light up. I know that I will have to fight like hell, just as any addict not to. I have NOTHING against smokers. They are just as human as you and me and have the same weaknesses. Thye may not even see it as a weakness because they don't care. Thye love thier smokes. So leave them the hell alone and worry about you and yours. If they want to commit slow suicide then let them. I have found out I have COPD. Now I don't just have to worry about the smoking, but everything that goes into my lungs for the rest of my life......do I blame that on anyone but me? NO! Do I want to NO! Live and let live. Just don't seliberately blow smoke in my face and everything is copacetic. Those who chooses to smoke and the clouds of smoke I run into; I walk around them or hold my breath. I smell them and know I used to smell like that too, and it makes me much more understanding. If you have never smoked and you judge, well STFU! You have no idea what the F you are talking about. I was a considerate smoker and I feel I am a considerate non-smoker. Want one? Light up, just do it away from me or warn me so I can leave. Period.

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Sun 05/04/08 03:41 PM
.... spoken like a selfish smoker. Ill do what i want, dont criticize me, if you dont like it leave...... i have the right.... ect. ect.

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Sun 05/04/08 03:44 PM
im a smoker i dont smoke in the house because of my son, and i actually agree on the smoking ban in public places in our country...but its my choice to smoke..and bashing people about smoking doesnt make anyone a better person than me or other smokers....theres alot worse things out there that people do

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Sun 05/04/08 03:48 PM

.... spoken like a selfish smoker. Ill do what i want, dont criticize me, if you dont like it leave...... i have the right.... ect. ect.


CRITICIZ???? LMAO, you been doing this to everyone on this whole thread. How long have you been on this site ramble? And this seems like the only reason you came back on this form after a few months. The funny thing about this. Your attitude has not changed in almost the two years i have seen you on this site. Such a shame and a wast of timeohwell

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Sun 05/04/08 03:49 PM

.... spoken like a selfish smoker. Ill do what i want, dont criticize me, if you dont like it leave...... i have the right.... ect. ect.


i'd rather be in a room full of ardent smokers than around you and your self-centered...me, me, me attitude. and you call smokers selfish...PAAAALLLEEEEAAASSSEEE. it's people like you that make smokers want to blow it your way, oops...there i go being selfish and rude again drinker

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Sun 05/04/08 03:50 PM
smokin smokin smokin

*cough cough*





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Sun 05/04/08 03:55 PM
Excuse me but I was more than fair in what I wrote and bashed no one, except maybe and only maybe myself. I blamed no one and gave everyone thier right to choose what they want to do. Respect is the key word. There will always be disrespectful people and respectful people. No matter. Just hold your breath, walk around it or leave. They are OUTSIDE obeying the law! They can't help which way the wind blows, so Ramnbill, blow me!

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Sun 05/04/08 03:59 PM
Lick me



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Sun 05/04/08 04:01 PM
Edited by wickedlluccy on Sun 05/04/08 04:03 PM


........the ultimate test of love is tolerance...I don't like smelling cigs...don't like to smell like them either, but I'll hang my clothes out side & the smell goes away and I'll take extra showers if I need to ...and I will continue to love my wayward smoking lover or family member...I'll buy the smokers mouth wash and toothpaste and whatever to help the cause and support them w/hand holding ass kickin, more sex :tongue: and what ever they need from me if/when they ever decide to quit, I'll be their loudest cheering section...and in turn they will respect I have asthma....tolerance has many faces...flowerforyou


:heart: ~wicked~:heart:

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Sun 05/04/08 04:47 PM
Edited by sam53 on Sun 05/04/08 05:11 PM
........the ultimate test of love is tolerance...I don't like smelling cigs...don't like to smell like them either, but I'll hang my clothes out side & the smell goes away and I'll take extra showers if I need to ...and I will continue to love my wayward smoking lover or family member...I'll buy the smokers mouth wash and toothpaste and whatever to help the cause and support them w/hand holding ass kickin, more sex :tongue: and what ever they need from me if/when they ever decide to quit, I'll be their loudest cheering section...and in turn they will respect I have asthma....tolerance has many faces...flowerforyou





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Unfortunately and sad enough smoking causes cancer and other diseases and once they get them there is nothing you can do but look at them dying in front of you . I lost a friend to lung cancer at 49 only . There is much at stake here and smoking is scary now .sad sad sad sad !.

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Sun 05/04/08 04:53 PM
Edited by creationsfire on Sun 05/04/08 04:54 PM
No one here is saying that is is not dangerous, just that it is thier body and thier choice. As long as they are respectful about it , (like anything in this life) then leave them alone.

I'm sorry you lost your friend. I'm sorry I started smoking at the age of 12 and now have COPD. I'm sorry my someone I love very much is fighting oral and skin cancer and is on chemo.

What can you do? Nothing but try to stay out of the way and hope they do the same. Respect is the key, and getting all upset over it isn't going to make anyone want to quit.