http://www.oneplusyou.com/topic/show/109840

my question is simple and I have no legal background whatsoever, but how can we accept that one police officer not only shoot but reloaded his weapon and continued to shoot. Regardless of whether he was armed (and wasnt) isnt this just a bit excessive???

http://www.nydailynews.com/

its a damn shame...reminds me of the war criminal we have in office right now...getting away with murder

WOW, is that ever an understatement, two of them in fact.

I'm feeling kind of mellow today

i guess we will never know the answer to that question it stil 50 shots man what really were they thinking

we had one in la ware he stopped a car and when he walked up to it to get info and all the person reached for it.he had hi gun on the guy and he unloaded like 16 rounds at point blank range in the guys chest.you would think after 2 or 3 rounds he would stop.

Its a sad sad story, and now New York will go up in flame tonight.

Jan. 24, 2008 - The accused cops waived a jury trial.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/04/25/2008-04-25_a_look_back_at_the_sean_bell_case.html


maybe the banking of the judge/s should be examined

just a thought

but hey what do i know

I too read that, and agree wise decision - but would like someone with some sort of legal background to try and explain to me when does the word excessive fit in this case?

31 shots by one police officer, not logical to me. any ideas?

Dependant on the state and department...in Utah they can't shoot unless they see a gun first, same for Cali I believe. If shots ring before a gun is spotted the cop faces manslaughter charges, which alone isn't much but thinking that this cop is going to be in the general population of prison for three years is more than enough for them not to try anything again.

This occured in Utah some years back and the cop was sent to the federal prison in Nevada for about 5 years on involuntary manslaughter. It does happen that cops get charged, but again dependant on the state and department code of conduct.

Im so perplexed because even if this person was armed, 31 shots from one of 3 officers on the scene is excessive. Must have been a very bad shot to have needed so many damned bullets. Just doesn't make sense to me.

The police were acquitted for a reason. Race had nothing to do with this incident.

Al Sharpton is doing the rally and civil disobedience thing. He's a waste of oxygen.

I never mentioned nor played the race card, what I cannot for the life of me understand is a cops need to empty his clip, reload and continue shooting a suspect (if that). Excessive or what.

Police were acquitted because they were smart enough not to go thru a jury trial, there they'd be screwed.

Not saying much of the judge that handled this case, shameful

Well I heard this argument in a movie once, I may not share the views the movie held throughout most of it but I do agree with the statement "Who are we to say what was right or wrong, we are not as well trained as an officer if he saw the need to do what he did we are in no position to argue it" or something to that effect. As ignorant as it may be he used his judgement, not necassarily the best but what would you of done in a situation like that?

How about training officers to shoot to disarm and not to KILL.

How about not authorizing the use of alcohol even if you are undercover, just don't drink, they are undercover so I'm sure they can ake up fantastic stories to cover why they aren't engaging in the use of alcohol.

How about an admission of guilt by them in regards to excessively shooting all of the gentlemen present during this unfortunate melee.

The NYC police department has long needed a complete and intensive overhaul and it is yet to be done.

I agree that they have a tough job to do and their lives are on the line daily, however, in the cpacity they are in being the only entity allowed to use their guns at what seems like their "discretion", they must be better equipped to deal with a situation such as this.

How many more innocent unarmed citizens do we sacrifice because we thought we heard them say they had a gun, was that statement directed at one of the undercovers did they feel their lives were in jeopardy.

The Judge involvement is quite questionable and should be investigated by an independent party.

And to the Sharpton comment (civil disobedience) ......Sharpton, yes can be very annoying with some of his actions, but he has walked with the greatest of the great so he has earned the right to take on any cause he feel needs to be brought to societies attention.

However, Once again he is not a representation of, nor does he speak for the entire African American Race, we are individuals with independent thought processes and capable of knowing when something is unjust.

wounded perks can tell their side of the story

cops face danger every day. if I understood the story...it was mistaken identity and the groom was reaching for his cell phone. my question is...how would the cops know until it's too late that it was a cell phone??? when the cops tell you to freeze, hands in the air and you don't....what should they do??? hopw they don't get shot first? when a cop tells yu to freeze...don't reach for anything. they will realize it's mistaken identity soon enough. I feel bad for the groom and the family. I'm from a long line of soldiers and cops...friends and family. i know what they go through and what happens. i used to work in the records dept of the police station here...a woman came in, got mad and went crazy....she started reaching for something. but because she was looking for something..her attention wasn't on the cops....so they took her down. but had she reached for something after being told not to and they had no choice...they would have shot. most cops are taught to shoot to kill because the bad guy could get a shot at them if not. it's a sad story and tragedy. anyway ...that's my opinion on why it happened

unless you saw it first hand or was involved is hard to say.

Rose,
The one cop shot 31 rounds...........

Thats pretty damning, dont you think?

fanta....before my computer locked up lol...the story I read was 3 people were shot...2 survived. it was after a night of partying for the groom's bachelor party at a strip club at 4 am. they hit an unmarked cop car. i'm going back to read more...but what i know of cops in situtaions where alcohol is involved....it may have taken that much . i really wasn't there so i don't know for sure. but when a cop says freeze...freeze. but like i said...i'm about to read more. i was going on the 2 OP posts

The gunfire in the current case stemmed from an undercover operation inside the Kalua Cabaret, where seven officers in plain clothes were investigating alleged prostitution and drug use.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has said the groom was involved in an argument outside the club after 4 a.m., and one of his friends made a reference to a gun. An undercover officer walked closely behind Bell and his friends as they headed for their car. As he walked toward the front of the vehicle, they drove forward — striking him and an undercover police vehicle, Kelly said.




that is what I read about it....the shots were fired at the car...not directly at one person.....completely different than what I thought