fanta you are going to argue until you are blue in the face. what i posted was to refute the original bs story given in the other thread that was way off.

as far as debating the actual story...that can go on forever...plain and simple...the public doesn't know all of it and can only assume. i am looking at it from what i know of cop mentalities and how they might handle it. today i have spoken to many cops and asked what they would have done (yes they read the story). they are saying the same....unless they have ALL the facts...they can't say in this case but can only assume from what they do have proof about. and from what they can assume...they would have done the same since the car was leaving the scene of the crime. even the photographer of the bar said the sirens went off shortly after they walked out of the bar. that tells me before they drove off...they knew the cops were there. to the cops they say they id themselves and the car still drove off. to a cop viewing the arguement where a gun was mentioned before and the investigation of the bar...it's not as clear cut like they gunned down a guy standing out in the open.

alot of the testimony is hearsay.

that is your opinion of how things are and i have a different one. agree to disagree. since it was not caught on video..who can say who is lying....unless you are a mindreader and even then it's hearsay

you could view it as a soldier....it is sometimes a split second choice depending on the circumstance...yes they get it wrong at times and it's very tragic. it wasn't racial motivated and the cops weren't on a mafia payroll or something. it was a decision that turned out to be wrong and tragic

You're wrong, I'm right!!!

Neenier-neenier...........

I have lived outside the US and I know that Cops in other countrys get away with a lot but I never thought I would see this in the US as much as it has been happening in the back 10 years or so.

I Wish the Bell Family Peace and I hope that these Officers Reflect on exactly what they did and what they took away from a mother, Father, Girlfriend and children.

There is no way to justify what happened.. I am sorry I believe that when you are an officer of the law that you should be held to higher standards than the average joe schmoe...

neener neener right back at ya BOY lol

btw...the groom was NOT shot 31 times. he was shot 4. again there are alot of gray issues and unknowns to pass a clear judgement.

it was a terrible tragedy and i assure you the cops won't forget it. they have to live with the mistake that was made. they made their choice based on the situations surrounding it

one reason mr bell may not have seen the badge was because of his vision. the cops wouldn't have known that either but showed it...again, it was a split decision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/nyregion/28bell.html

btw...most cops don't enjoy taking lives...even if it is a hardened criminal.

what would be the motives of these cops except the situation led them to believe their was something wrong or in danger?

race is out (despite Al Sharpton) because 2 of the cops were african-american and the other was latino

money????? unless the cops were on mafia payroll and hired as hitman....that's out. they wouldn't have the money to pay off a judge either

misunderstanding by all parties is most likely. they made their choice based on the events of that night (the arguement, mention of a gun....whoever claimed to have it, the car fleeing...the cops could have thought out of guilt to get away and the victims could have been leaving in fear...that we won't know for sure because we can't read minds) and include that the bar was under investigation for drugs and prostitution. more than likely the victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time and the series of events led police to view it differently.

it was a tragic mistake. but let's please not warp the facts know...like the actual story or how many bullets the victim took. if people want to debate...that's fine....but it's hard to debate on warped facts

The average Joe Schmoe wouldn't have the job...

Cops are overworked, underpayed. and damn sure not appriciated.

They are in the top 5 in...

Depression
Heart Attacks
Divorce
Suicides

And hold them to a higher standard? They hold themselves to a standard higher than most can comprehend. But do nor forget - they are human too, with the same emotions as everyone else.

Last word,

I didnt say how many times the groom was shot, but the other boy in the front seat still has 4 bullets in him.

The cops fired as many as 50 rds into the car. One cop, the one who was driving the van, fired 31 times into the car all by hisself.

lol fanta...focus here...i didn't say YOU said that. we are debating on the takes on the actual story....we may be in the minority here though lol...and you are wrong and i'm right lol

Hey!


I said last word......

100% agreed. it's easy to sit back and judge or say how they would handle something unless in that situation. there are good and bad everywhere in every profession.

lmao fanta...i am woman...hear me roar...now hush you lol

..and you roar so well!!

Darn you Rose

fanta...i think we have proven a point...i'm always right...you are always wrong and we can still laugh lol