Who cares when His side was pierced, anyway? Do you think it actually mattered to him?

Dig those heels in... continue to vehemently cling to your beliefs, leaving no room for any differences in perspective. It's all fear driven, anyway... You choose a life that's ruled by the idea that you're / we're all intrinsically flawed. You'll probably exclaim that my perspective is flawed because I don't see it from a your ("Christian") perspective... Poor soul that I am... I haven't been saved.

Hello there fellow JSH fan. Welcome!


I wouldn't say that you are flawed, just blinded in your heart because you don't perceive the unique truths of Jesus Christ as being practical impossibilities to naturally overcome.

That would be more to the point of why so many refuse to accept his teachings. Christ's teachings are impossibly loaded with impossiblity. Try living up to the things he said.

No one can.

That's what being born again accomplishes. He does it through us for our sake and we in turn become ambassadors of his offer of the Holy Spirit.

Something that you are not flawed to have missed out on, just not fully contemplated how impossible Jesus' words are to live out with our own inherent capabilities which are wanting and lacking the insightful strength to endure.

And I am most certain that you have a reasonable and credible reason for rebutting me, nonetheless, I offer this perspective to you for your contemplation, not your agreement.

peace, out

Thank you, Wouldee. I don't disagree with you and understand that the point is to provide proof of His miraculous resurrection. I get the Christian importance of providing history of events in precise chronological order (to prove it was real). Here's where Faith steps in... If the Miracle occurred (and I don't suggest it didn't), why this (almost manic) need to belabor the precise order... just to satisfy the analytical mind? When I say... "Do you think it actually mattered to Him?" I mean... Do you think it was in Jesus' heart to make sure that all of the minute facts of his death and resurrection where interpreted "correctly" in order to lead the doubting people of the future to the Truth? I don't... It's been interpreted as such by the mortals who pass the story on from generation to generation. I believe that, when one's religion becomes a battle to prove one's "rightness", it misses the mark... The RELIGION misses the mark... not God or Jesus.

And that is always the final statement in that argument, when all else has failed isn't it?

Christians just can't wait for the apocalypse, and they probably envision themselves saying to everyone... see, I told you so! You should have listened!

And they just can't wait until that day, in fact, they actively engage in activities and wars that attempt to fulfill Biblical prophecy ~~ which includes helping the Jews get back to Israel and will also include helping in the destruction of the nation of Israel and the Jews, and the destruction and rebuilding of the temple mount, and the next global war, because they believe certain things must happen before Jesus Christ comes back.

It is insanity, plain and simple. I'm sorry, that's the way I see it. I love you all, but you are insane.


That is not "prophecy coming to pass" it is a man made self-fulfilling of a perceived future. Revelations is simply a strangely coded instruction book being used today by certain people to try to fulfill some age old agenda (of the earth game) and called "prophecy."

People need to wake up an see the deception. Some won't. I'm really sorry.

It probably doesn't matter either way. We will ascend to the higher planes, but the actual human race on earth is doomed to extinction and or slavery.

JB

Thank you, Wouldee. I don't disagree with you and understand that the point is to provide proof of His miraculous resurrection. I get the Christian importance of providing history of events in precise chronological order (to prove it was real). Here's where Faith steps in... If the Miracle occurred (and I don't suggest it didn't), why this (almost manic) need to belabor the precise order... just to satisfy the analytical mind? When I say... "Do you think it actually mattered to Him?" I mean... Do you think it was in Jesus' heart to make sure that all of the minute facts of his death and resurrection where interpreted "correctly" in order to lead the doubting people of the future to the Truth? I don't... It's been interpreted as such by the mortals who pass the story on from generation to generation. I believe that, when one's religion becomes a battle to prove one's "rightness", it misses the mark... The RELIGION misses the mark... not God or Jesus.

hi.

yup

religion makes a mockery of it all in so many ways.

it only takes a minute or two to share something that might make a bit of a difference to someone.

I agree that battling is nothing more than strife and contention.

Most of the time, that's all we have to work with. The heart and soul of man is communicating, nontheless.

Remaining calm in a blessed assurance is only a personal joy.

It's the little things sometimes that are the loudest. Who can know which.

If good may come, well. If not.....