Topic: ideas for depression
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Wed 04/16/08 11:16 AM

i play poker 6 to 7 days a week.alot of times for serious money. been doing this for last 2 years. usually i will make alot of money at it. i think im getting burnt out though my level of play has dropped signicantly over last month. the adrenaline rush i got from the game has kept me playing lately i haven't been getting that adrenaline from playing. i have no social life outside of poker. i dont know what to do.


How about cultivating some other interests like music, sports, or anything cultural. Read a book. Go to a movie. Go to a club and listen to some music. Find a woman and spend some time with her. The possibilities are endless.

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Wed 04/16/08 11:19 AM


i play poker 6 to 7 days a week.alot of times for serious money. been doing this for last 2 years. usually i will make alot of money at it. i think im getting burnt out though my level of play has dropped signicantly over last month. the adrenaline rush i got from the game has kept me playing lately i haven't been getting that adrenaline from playing. i have no social life outside of poker. i dont know what to do.


How about cultivating some other interests like music, sports, or anything cultural. Read a book. Go to a movie. Go to a club and listen to some music. Find a woman and spend some time with her. The possibilities are endless.


The possibilities are endless in general or with the woman he finds?


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Wed 04/16/08 11:20 AM
the answers to each problem lie within each individual.....

how can one that has no connection bridge the gap from one to another.......

mom has all the answers in her heart, and son is dying to tell her all he feels and not have her hear it as a failure of herself.........

all are good and nothing can be solved if anything is thought of as a mistake, but rather as a path to wisdom......


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Wed 04/16/08 11:20 AM

you have pronounced all spoken as passive agressive behaviour as you have looked thru your own eyes and asertained this.....there could be many other reasons and motive for the things i say......

why do you see them with ONLY THIS possibility open to yourself

your mind has said a defintion of something....passive/agressive....it is your mind that has concluded this is bad, and so you hear your own thoughts of your own wisdom as "bad".........

passive and agressive abilitiy may mean only a relaxed state, a calm state, where nothing is able to startle or make fear....

nothing happening is then NOT seen as bad.....

unless one FEAR of something....

if a man walk to me with a gun, than i am not afraid to die
if a person insult me than I have heard not their wisdom, but my own FEAR of being insulted and put down, so i CANNOT BELIEVE IN MYSELF.....

it is only men that have interpreted their own thoughts as bad that have passed down "evil" assumptions as wisdom, such as terms that NAME others as DEFECTIVE.....

your own scriptures you follow say all i say and do not disagree if you open your mind and hold not to what the mind says........but rather what the heart whisper when you are alone and hear them not thru the filter of right and wrong which make one fear their own self and thoughts......


...huh?...

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Wed 04/16/08 11:21 AM
Thanks Franshade and Lilith for the responses and welcomes.
Hi, DavidBen. Nice to meet you, too. flowerforyou drinker smokin

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Wed 04/16/08 11:25 AM
Edited by iceprincess on Wed 04/16/08 11:27 AM

iceprincess.....are you asking for help for the one you love so much.....

if you wish for answers for your son, which i with all my heart do as well, than there IS an answer.....

nothing said here thus far was said with you in mind.....

your son has been approached with thinking he is not WELL, so every answer will include this assessment, and therefor attempt to treat a symtom

indeed the thinking he is not well is correct obviously, but to not see this has come for a GOOD reason "hide" the simple answer to his SADNESS.........what GOOD can this create that did not exist prior.........

all the reasons for his sadness cannot and need not be discusseed in an open forum......

if we spoke and your son was better, would that not be proof to you of what is true and untrue............then none have to believe anything but what be PROVEN.......

the offer stands for you from a friend if you indeed seek enough to have nothing to lose......


I have not felt as tho anything were said wiht me in mind. Nor do i plan to air dirty laundry in regards to my personal life or my son. As for something being wrong with my child.......THERE IS........children do not contemplate suicide if all is well in their world and i can pretend all i like that he is perfect.........eventually i'll be looking at a grave......instead i choose to accept the fact that at some point i have failed and am getting my child help and am seeking advice from any source i can glean it..........doesn't mean i'll follow it all but i believe one can never have to much knowledge

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Wed 04/16/08 11:27 AM
tinabelle........lol

if you speak to another, you speak from all the data you have of that person........every word they have spoken that has been input into the mind

reading of all posts with all topics discussed would be needed to digest all......

nice to meet you too.....:smile:




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Wed 04/16/08 11:36 AM

...huh?...




iceprincess:

I have lived with, worked with folks suffering with a variety of disorders.. acute and clinical depression being one of them.

If it is situational.. It will pass given time, patience and understanding. Like lilith mentioned and you said your son is in.. Professional therapy can help, no matter the diagnoses being situational or clinical.

The only thing I might add? Is to see the therapist yourself, privately.. To seek guidance in how to be as good a source of support through this as you can be.
Sometimes if you are too close to it.. like in a parents capacity? Boundaries can become a bit foggy.

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Wed 04/16/08 11:41 AM
iceprincess.....than we agree

speaking of all his sadness in public is not benefial....

you called it dirty laundry......this is not how i view it but how you view it......

i do did not say there were no MISTAKES because your own heart already tell you TOO much of this.......

i said that any solution can be found if APPROACHED from a PERSPECTIVE of no failure has been thus far......

how can one be held guilty for what they do not KNOW

one cannot see past their own emotions if they feel failure

if mom thinks she has failed, than she will panic, and make hasty decisions, and not SEE that if a cure does not work NOW, IT IS NOT A CURE......

she need one NOW as her mind scream.....

nothing wishes to destroy themself unless they HATE themself.....

why does he hate himself.......he has thoughts thatn tell him something he think is BAD.....

a child is easy to work with, especially if they are VULNERABLE.......HE IS

this is your EXCELLENT OPPORTUNNITY to unite with him in a love that will NEVER pass away, AND A BOND THAT WILL NEVER BE SEPERATED BY DISTANCE OR TROUBLE WILL CAN BE CREATED......





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Wed 04/16/08 11:44 AM



i play poker 6 to 7 days a week.alot of times for serious money. been doing this for last 2 years. usually i will make alot of money at it. i think im getting burnt out though my level of play has dropped signicantly over last month. the adrenaline rush i got from the game has kept me playing lately i haven't been getting that adrenaline from playing. i have no social life outside of poker. i dont know what to do.


How about cultivating some other interests like music, sports, or anything cultural. Read a book. Go to a movie. Go to a club and listen to some music. Find a woman and spend some time with her. The possibilities are endless.


The possibilities are endless in general or with the woman he finds?




Both...

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Wed 04/16/08 11:51 AM

iceprincess.....than we agree

speaking of all his sadness in public is not benefial....

you called it dirty laundry......this is not how i view it but how you view it......

i do did not say there were no MISTAKES because your own heart already tell you TOO much of this.......

i said that any solution can be found if APPROACHED from a PERSPECTIVE of no failure has been thus far......

how can one be held guilty for what they do not KNOW

one cannot see past their own emotions if they feel failure

if mom thinks she has failed, than she will panic, and make hasty decisions, and not SEE that if a cure does not work NOW, IT IS NOT A CURE......

she need one NOW as her mind scream.....

nothing wishes to destroy themself unless they HATE themself.....

why does he hate himself.......he has thoughts thatn tell him something he think is BAD.....

a child is easy to work with, especially if they are VULNERABLE.......HE IS

this is your EXCELLENT OPPORTUNNITY to unite with him in a love that will NEVER pass away, AND A BOND THAT WILL NEVER BE SEPERATED BY DISTANCE OR TROUBLE WILL CAN BE CREATED......







you lost me at then we agree.........

i freely admitt i'm not up to your par in regards to verbage so please when adressing feel free to pretend i'm less intelligent than you are and speak in plain english.........address me in the first person vs the third person formatt. If you have an idea take credit it for it and say "i think........" vs using "if one......" or something else of that nature.....

The reason i ask this is because i have a tendency to suffer from headaches nad reading your post and trying to decipher what it is your saying just plain hurts at times

thank-you for your consideration in this manner it's not meant to be degrading to you in any manner so please don't take it as such

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Wed 04/16/08 11:57 AM
Hey Davidben, this is a serious topic. Why not create your own thread to preach your psycho-babble.

Let's stick to helping the OP, please. flowerforyou

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Wed 04/16/08 11:57 AM
JISTME......

if your mind said "infested" and you stopped with that conclusion, you are seeing all your own thoughts still as bad ones.......how will you then not interpret and see others also as bad as you have your very own..........

go and make peace with your mind and then you will have the answers for others you are destined to have, and why you are so zealous as a good man is.............

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Wed 04/16/08 12:15 PM

Hey Davidben, this is a serious topic. Why not create your own thread to preach your psycho-babble.

Let's stick to helping the OP, please. flowerforyou


call me up and speak with me and then say the same......it would be impossible for you to not become my friend and totally understand all i say with ease

think all you do not understand as meaningless and you stay unaware of your own path to happiness and peace within yourself

you and i BOTH know you have not found peace within yourself....

do i need to prove this further to you......you do not know yet that all thoughts are in the air, and you hear all of them from another that point them at you.....

i only responded to others posting.....you did not ask any other but me to stay on topic, lol.....your own heart and intent is open for all that see to see.......

i feel no need to post as i have no agenda except what others post that cause them unhappiness.....


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Wed 04/16/08 12:19 PM
Edited by franshade on Wed 04/16/08 12:22 PM
Oh sweet Lord help me!!! :wink:
'if'
'if'
'if' my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. laugh
(apologizing if anyone gets offended by my comment)

is this relevant to thread, no, so lets stay on track.

topic - depression any other suggestions,

Thanks jistme for sharing professional/personal experience.

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Wed 04/16/08 12:23 PM
Hon, time to get out and find something else that makes you happy and do it BIG!
I battle with this all the time, I'm bipolar, I have learned that when I start feeling like you are I need to find something new and usually several somethings to keep me busy and involved with myself and new people.
Make BIG changes and make them fun but make them safe and reasonable. Spend a lot of time outside doing things where you will be around other people and this is something that will help also.
The best time to do this is when you don't feel like doing it cause the end result is feeling better.

God bless!

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Wed 04/16/08 12:25 PM

Oh sweet Lord help me!!! :wink:
'if'
'if'
'if' my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. laugh
(apologizing if anyone gets offended by my comment)

is this relevant to thread, no, so lets stay on track.

topic - depression any other suggestions,

Thanks jistme for sharing professional/personal experience.



If my uncle removed his balls would he be my aunt?

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Wed 04/16/08 12:29 PM


Oh sweet Lord help me!!! :wink:
'if'
'if'
'if' my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. laugh
(apologizing if anyone gets offended by my comment)

is this relevant to thread, no, so lets stay on track.

topic - depression any other suggestions,

Thanks jistme for sharing professional/personal experience.



If my uncle removed his balls would he be my aunt?


gonna go do research and get back to you laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 04/16/08 12:39 PM

gonna go do research and get back to you laugh laugh laugh


Sorry reading David makes my head work overtime...and not in a good way.sick

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Wed 04/16/08 12:48 PM


gonna go do research and get back to you laugh laugh laugh


Sorry reading David makes my head work overtime...and not in a good way.sick


flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou