Topic: ideas for depression
franshade's photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:59 AM



franshade, i only asked you to do such to avoid any public embarrasment for you, but i know even to speak this MAY insult you already.........

who can NOT insult another if all they see is thru pain, which make FEAR of all things as a POTENTIAL insult.....

you have been insulted much by a previous man and i am not him........

lillith was referenced by lily in a prior post, and such mention was responded to........that is all


My dear DavidBen - how BIG of you to try and spare me public embarrassment, but you really have no clue what you speak of, but that has been apparent from the beginning.

Your words are just that David, words. In order for me to be embarrassed I would have to care and honestly I could care less one way or the other what you say.

I have made attempts to reach out to you. Have tried small talk, but to no avail. But if you truly believe in your GENEROUS heart that you can ever embarrass me with your words, you are sorely mistaken. (also apparent by your posts)

But what else is new?

all of life for you when you clean out your mind and start listening to your own self and not hearing all the things you hear and read and see as BAD......if you care not about anything i say than why do you ALWAYS RESPOND AND MAKE YOURSELF A LIER, AND EVEN RESPOND WITH BOLD YOU CARE SO MUCH......

you know my hearts desire, and i know your.......i hear all yours thru neutral thoughts, and you hear all mine thru a filkter that process all as good and bad......so you make me to be BAD.....




Your words are just that David words, I take things from where they come from, so usually when they come from you they both amuse and confuse me bigsmile

You are not a bad person David, I think you to be a bit delusional but that too is my opinion. Just as you think me to be a liar, please clarify, why do you assume to know me or my intentions David? What are you scared of?





no photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:04 AM
try gambling peanuts maybe you'll get that rush back

davidben1's photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:07 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 04/16/08 09:08 AM
lillith.....nothing i say is assumptions but rather facts as provided to me BY YOU AND EVERYTHING THAT I SEE AND HEAR...........

your own voice try to whisper to yourself the meaning of all, but you will not AGREE to your own condeming voice that what it say about yourself is true, but rather run from yourself or condem another when you hear instead......

you will never figure out who and what i am with your minds eye, so why do you care.....is it to save me from my evil self........is it to alert all to a wolf in their presence........

when you see all you will never NOT call me a friend

what is OP.....i dont wish to go back and find such reference :smile:



davidben1's photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:12 AM
franshade.......you always make me SMILE......i promise i NEVER have a thought of you that is not a GOOD one......perhaps i am just NOT afraid.......

if there is confusion, than an unknown is in the house, and it tear all within the house to shreds, before one come to see to ask ONESELF 'what am i not SEEING.......

nothing that see all can EVEN PERCIEVE a negative......

davidben1's photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:39 AM
have you not heard that EACH will find the correct path in the mind that lead one to KNOW nothing is evil, and that all are weeping in private misery if they revile or hate or violate another, and this place one find not for themselves, but for the pain of suffering in others they see.......THEN one see nothing can harm THEM, so what fear is there.........

lilith401's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:05 AM
DB~ OP stands for Original Poster, the person who made this thread?

Let's try to keep it on topic.

And not assume anything about others, based on our own feelings. As you keep doing. You can speak only for yourself, not for me. I am offended you are repeatedly assuming things about me.... Ughhhh... I see you just are oblivious.

OP~ I apologize. Back to your situation. Gambling is a rush, something you feel gives you power or joy. You need to find that within you and it is going to take your brain time to get over that feeling of excitement. As well, you might want to consider exploring other ways of gaining that feeling that are not so consuming.

davidben1's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:39 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 04/16/08 10:44 AM
lillith.....smiles....you call me oblivious......

how many then shall fall into the "oblivious" category.....

if one look and see a percieved negative, than the percieve negative grow with each viewing of others, until no love within the heart can even be felt......

one would say to "forgive".......but not tell another HOW to forgive.......

any that believe in such a word of forgiveness must refer to the defintion of said word.......TO NOT REMEMBER AS A NEGATIVE, OR IT SHALL BE INPUT INTO ALL ONE SEES....

only the WHOLE truth can turn within the mind a negative to a positive............

this can not be done thinking ones own mind say negative.....

your mind said i was OBLIVIOUS, but you assumed this was a negative thing you heard your mind say, and so pronunced it unto me......now i am a NEGATIVE

if you did not stop at a negative conclusion to the thought OBLIVIOUS, you would have heard from within yourself the many GOOD things that can come from being oblivious........if one is oblivious to any thought being heard as negative, and assume all is for a GOOD reason, and view all thoughts as EQUAL, than no lack of love can exist....

love is not lack of all percieved negative in others as the mind say, but rather action-reaction lead to all questions which lead all to peace.....

if man leave many things undone or hurt to not be spoken, than none can create GOOD, and a solution GOOD for ALL is not found





Donnar's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:44 AM


I'm confused, or not. I see Lily posting in here, but, not Lilith. They are not the same person, are they franshade? What does Lilith have to do with this discussion? flowerforyou

Oh yeah, the post. Whereuat, If playing poker is what you consider your job, it sounds to me like a case of burnout. You just need to take your vacation. You knew the answer the whole time, didn't you? flowerforyou smokin drinker


Donner, not quite sure I understand your referring to me in this post. I for a fact know Lilith and Lily are 2 separate individuals, so I am lost where you would assume I knew otherwise? please explain.



Franshade- I started reading the post from the beginning and noted Lily commenting on page 1-laughing.

Again on page 2 Lily says what is "EACHES"?

Then on page 2 you say "No matter how hard you try, Lillith is still my idol". Who are you saying that to?
I was confused by that out of the clear blue. Lillith had not posted yet, so, I had no idea what you meant by that statement.

On page 4 Jistme quotes your statement about Lillith and replies "I wouldn't have it any other way."

Not sure where that fits into the OP question. I looked back and checked to see if Lillith had posted, and she hadn't at that time. Just threw me and confused me as to how or why Lillith got into the conversation. She did not post til later in the post.

I'm sure I am not the only one confused by these statements. I don't know you or Lillith or Lily except from seeing you in the posts. I must be missing something. I haven't seen DavidBen before at all. Looking back, It seems you were speaking to him regarding Lillith being your idol. Is that right? Or were you speaking to Jistme? very confusing during a seemingly heated arguement between you and DavidBen. Thanks.

lilith401's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:47 AM
If I might answer....

Fran was talking to Jistme.

Signed.... Fran's idol! laugh

davidben1's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:52 AM
dear miss donnor.....

there is nothing happening here except what is good, lol....

all speaking is for GOOD and lead to all unity between all peoples......

how can an aught or misunderstanding be erased if no communication be had.......each misunderstanding must be erased to not be input into the cataloge of the mind.....

many things happen for many DIFFERENT reasons.....

it is nice to meet you......

franshade's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:54 AM
Edited by franshade on Wed 04/16/08 10:55 AM



I'm confused, or not. I see Lily posting in here, but, not Lilith. They are not the same person, are they franshade? What does Lilith have to do with this discussion? flowerforyou

Oh yeah, the post. Whereuat, If playing poker is what you consider your job, it sounds to me like a case of burnout. You just need to take your vacation. You knew the answer the whole time, didn't you? flowerforyou smokin drinker


Donner, not quite sure I understand your referring to me in this post. I for a fact know Lilith and Lily are 2 separate individuals, so I am lost where you would assume I knew otherwise? please explain.



Franshade- I started reading the post from the beginning and noted Lily commenting on page 1-laughing.

Again on page 2 Lily says what is "EACHES"?

Then on page 2 you say "No matter how hard you try, Lillith is still my idol". Who are you saying that to?
I was confused by that out of the clear blue. Lillith had not posted yet, so, I had no idea what you meant by that statement.

On page 4 Jistme quotes your statement about Lillith and replies "I wouldn't have it any other way."

Not sure where that fits into the OP question. I looked back and checked to see if Lillith had posted, and she hadn't at that time. Just threw me and confused me as to how or why Lillith got into the conversation. She did not post til later in the post.

I'm sure I am not the only one confused by these statements. I don't know you or Lillith or Lily except from seeing you in the posts. I must be missing something. I haven't seen DavidBen before at all. Looking back, It seems you were speaking to him regarding Lillith being your idol. Is that right? Or were you speaking to Jistme? very confusing during a seemingly heated arguement between you and DavidBen. Thanks.


I am sorry for the confusion Donnar, I was talking to jistme (my idol's SO) lol

Sorry you misunderstood my post as a heated argument, I try and steer away from those :wink:

But thanks for clearing this up, when I read your post I too was confused... so I can understand, thanks again for clarifying. Welcome aboard flowerforyou

iceprincess's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:58 AM
I was actually interested in seeing what everybody's idea's for battling depression were..........as my son is 10 and has been diagnosed as deppressive...........the only thing i've gotten from this is someone is afraid and doesn't want to admitt it........same person also can't seem to speak of themselves in first person but can make a lot of generalities.........and no one seems to have addressed the original ?




i feel sorry for the op.........

lilith401's photo
Wed 04/16/08 10:59 AM
Go up... I just tried to address the OP... we are trying!

iceprincess's photo
Wed 04/16/08 11:01 AM
Edited by iceprincess on Wed 04/16/08 11:02 AM
well if anyone has any good ideas cna you e-mail them to me as i'm researching the hell out of it and pretty much swimming blind..........that or can fraidy cat make his own forum so we can discover the root cause of all his fears there.......

franshade's photo
Wed 04/16/08 11:02 AM

I was actually interested in seeing what everybody's idea's for battling depression were..........as my son is 10 and has been diagnosed as deppressive...........the only thing i've gotten from this is someone is afraid and doesn't want to admitt it........same person also can't seem to speak of themselves in first person but can make a lot of generalities.........and no one seems to have addressed the original ?




i feel sorry for the op.........


I too tried iceprincess, honest opinion would be to seek professional help which is the only sane and proper thing for me to suggest as I have never had to handle nor live with depression. flowerforyou

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Wed 04/16/08 11:04 AM
Edited by iceprincess on Wed 04/16/08 11:05 AM


I was actually interested in seeing what everybody's idea's for battling depression were..........as my son is 10 and has been diagnosed as deppressive...........the only thing i've gotten from this is someone is afraid and doesn't want to admitt it........same person also can't seem to speak of themselves in first person but can make a lot of generalities.........and no one seems to have addressed the original ?




i feel sorry for the op.........


I too tried iceprincess, honest opinion would be to seek professional help which is the only sane and proper thing for me to suggest as I have never had to handle nor live with depression. flowerforyou


he is in counselling and we are trying to battle it at this time without meds since he is so young and they believe it to be situational related vs an actual chemical imbalance

franshade's photo
Wed 04/16/08 11:06 AM
Im sorry your son is going thru this and I am certain it affects the whole family.

lilith401's photo
Wed 04/16/08 11:12 AM

can fraidy cat make his own forum so we can discover the root cause of all his fears there.......


That is hysterical!!! laugh

If you start a depression thread for your son I'll be glad to post...

davidben1's photo
Wed 04/16/08 11:12 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 04/16/08 11:14 AM
iceprincess.....are you asking for help for the one you love so much.....

if you wish for answers for your son, which i with all my heart do as well, than there IS an answer.....

nothing said here thus far was said with you in mind.....

your son has been approached with thinking he is not WELL, so every answer will include this assessment, and therefor attempt to treat a symtom

indeed the thinking he is not well is correct obviously, but to not see this has come for a GOOD reason "hide" the simple answer to his SADNESS.........what GOOD can this create that did not exist prior.........

all the reasons for his sadness cannot and need not be discusseed in an open forum......

if we spoke and your son was better, would that not be proof to you of what is true and untrue............then none have to believe anything but what be PROVEN.......

the offer stands for you from a friend if you indeed seek enough to have nothing to lose......

iceprincess's photo
Wed 04/16/08 11:13 AM


can fraidy cat make his own forum so we can discover the root cause of all his fears there.......


That is hysterical!!! laugh

If you start a depression thread for your son I'll be glad to post...


I'm half afraid too........i seen what happened here........