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And might I add, that if everyone is so damned concerned about abortion, then why don't you adopt all these kids that are currently in foster care and need loving homes? There are too many children suffering in this country, with no food, home, or anything. I agree with you on this one we also have the children here that are starving and need homes too. Some people think you couldnt love the child as if it were your own. I think you can love any child even if you didnt give birth too her/him |
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Edited by
hellkitten54
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Mon 04/14/08 03:43 PM
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And might I add, that if everyone is so damned concerned about abortion, then why don't you adopt all these kids that are currently in foster care and need loving homes? There are too many children suffering in this country, with no food, home, or anything. I agree with you on this one we also have the children here that are starving and need homes too. Some people think you couldnt love the child as if it were your own. I think you can love any child even if you didnt give birth too her/him The sad thing is, a lot of the kids have problems and aren't the typical caucasian perfect healthy child, so they are not wanted. All the people that cry not to abort are the same people that want the perfect healthy child. One of my good friends had a cousin named abbey that was hydrocephalic at birth. Her mother put her in a nursing home and left her alone, except when me and my friend would go visit her and bring her movies and new clothes. |
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And might I add, that if everyone is so damned concerned about abortion, then why don't you adopt all these kids that are currently in foster care and need loving homes? There are too many children suffering in this country, with no food, home, or anything. I agree with you on this one we also have the children here that are starving and need homes too. Some people think you couldnt love the child as if it were your own. I think you can love any child even if you didnt give birth too her/him The sad thing is, a lot of the kids have problems and aren't the typical caucasian perfect healthy child, so they are not wanted. Yeah no matter what is wrong with them they need love in their life too. |
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And might I add, that if everyone is so damned concerned about abortion, then why don't you adopt all these kids that are currently in foster care and need loving homes? There are too many children suffering in this country, with no food, home, or anything. I agree with you on this one we also have the children here that are starving and need homes too. Some people think you couldnt love the child as if it were your own. I think you can love any child even if you didnt give birth too her/him The sad thing is, a lot of the kids have problems and aren't the typical caucasian perfect healthy child, so they are not wanted. Yeah no matter what is wrong with them they need love in their life too. Exactly, but do you see these people that are against abortion doing anything for these children? |
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Kelly7717
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Mon 04/14/08 03:52 PM
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Would you rather hear a child who is sick say they would have been better off dead? From the physical and emotional pain?
*Not all women are sluts who have to make decisions* I chose to tough it out and my husband (ex now) couldnt cope. I was the stronger of the two of us. I still am. The point is it should be a choice to tough it out, adoption, or abortion. All women should have the right to make that choice. - forgot to quote who i was responding to... |
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Will throw a log on the fire here.....
It boils down to a set of moral and in some cases perhaps religious convictions. So, while those here who say "It is wrong and it is murder" have either a moral or religious conviction as such (or both) for them, that is the right answer. For the pro-choice on the other side of the fence - same answer. Whichever side I am on, I do not believe the government has the right nor responsibility to push your moral/religious views upon me. |
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Will throw a log on the fire here..... It boils down to a set of moral and in some cases perhaps religious convictions. So, while those here who say "It is wrong and it is murder" have either a moral or religious conviction as such (or both) for them, that is the right answer. For the pro-choice on the other side of the fence - same answer. Whichever side I am on, I do not believe the government has the right nor responsibility to push your moral/religious views upon me. What I have a problem with is those people who are pro-life when it comes to babies in the womb, but have no problem with young men and women being sent to die in Iraq. That's being inconsistent. |
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And might I add, that if everyone is so damned concerned about abortion, then why don't you adopt all these kids that are currently in foster care and need loving homes? There are too many children suffering in this country, with no food, home, or anything. amen. |
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Noone is pro-abortion, there is pro choice and pro life. I am pro choice, a woman should have the right to decide whether to carry a child to birth or not. I will not infringe on another's choice regardless to how I personally feel about abortion. I will stay out of others bedrooms and I will stay out of their life choices also.
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Noone is pro-abortion, there is pro choice and pro life. I am pro choice, a woman should have the right to decide whether to carry a child to birth or not. I will not infringe on another's choice regardless to how I personally feel about abortion. I will stay out of others bedrooms and I will stay out of their life choices also. I think this is the only time I have agreed with you.  
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Lindyy
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Mon 04/14/08 06:52 PM
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Exactly, but do you see these people that are against abortion doing anything for these children? Hellkitten: I agree with some things you post and disagree with some. I am totally against abortion for any reason. But, you are wrong about people who are against abortion not doing anything for the children that are "special needs" children left in institutions, etc. Dr. James Dobson - Focus on the Family, Dr. Charles Stanley - In Touch Ministries, Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Franklin Graham's "Samaritan's Purse" to name a few all have programs or support and sponsor programs directly relating to this issue. Then you have Bill Wilson's Metro Ministries in Brooklyn, NY, who ministers and cares for children in the ghettos of Brooklyn, NY, and is located in the ghetto of Bushwick in Brooklyn, one of the most dangerous ghettos there. I myself sponsor a child through Bill's program 'Won by One.' Lindyy  |
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What I have a problem with is those people who are pro-life when it comes to babies in the womb, but have no problem with young men and women being sent to die in Iraq. That's being inconsistent. Mnhiker: Grrrrrr  Lindyy 
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When I contemplate this subject, I always want to ask those who are proponents of the right to abortion: If the choice had been made by your mother to abort YOU, specifically, and you had the ability to express your opinion at first trimester time, what would your opinion have been? And, what would be your opinion, if you could have one having been aborted, now? just my pondering on the subject. Please don't be offended.
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hmmmm...ten minutes and no answer. Sorry I killed the thread
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When I contemplate this subject, I always want to ask those who are proponents of the right to abortion: If the choice had been made by your mother to abort YOU, specifically, and you had the ability to express your opinion at first trimester time, what would your opinion have been? And, what would be your opinion, if you could have one having been aborted, now? just my pondering on the subject. Please don't be offended. Willy: On a recent segment of Dr. James Dobson's "Focus on the Family" was a Christian woman who has her own ministry regarding abortion. She is the result of her biological mother aborting her. She is alive, intelligent and doing great. I forget her name, if I can look it up I will post her name and ministry. She has forgiven her biological mother, has approached her, and believe it or not, her biololgical mother is still of the same mindset. Does not regret what she did. It is a totally awesome story to hear, someone who was aborted and yet is alive and well. God is sooooooooooooo good! Lindyy
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What I have a problem with is those people who are pro-life when it comes to babies in the womb, but have no problem with young men and women being sent to die in Iraq. That's being inconsistent. Mnhiker: Grrrrrr Lindyy Lindyy, According to American Catholic, Pope John Paul II, a holy man, spoke out against going to war with Iraq. He said, "War is never just another means that one can choose to employ for settling differences between nations," He said other things, which you can read in this link: http://www.americancatholic.org/news/JustWar/iraq/papalstatement.asp Our President should have listened. |
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Will throw a log on the fire here..... It boils down to a set of moral and in some cases perhaps religious convictions. So, while those here who say "It is wrong and it is murder" have either a moral or religious conviction as such (or both) for them, that is the right answer. For the pro-choice on the other side of the fence - same answer. Whichever side I am on, I do not believe the government has the right nor responsibility to push your moral/religious views upon me. What I have a problem with is those people who are pro-life when it comes to babies in the womb, but have no problem with young men and women being sent to die in Iraq. That's being inconsistent. Amen to that
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Edited by
Lindyy
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Mon 04/14/08 08:12 PM
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What I have a problem with is those people who are pro-life when it comes to babies in the womb, but have no problem with young men and women being sent to die in Iraq. That's being inconsistent. Mnhiker: Grrrrrr Lindyy Lindyy, According to American Catholic, Pope John Paul II, a holy man, spoke out against going to war with Iraq. He said, "War is never just another means that one can choose to employ for settling differences between nations," He said other things, which you can read in this link: http://www.americancatholic.org/news/JustWar/iraq/papalstatement.asp Our President should have listened. **************************************************** mnhiker: Although I have great respect for the Pope, I am not a puppet. Neither is President Bush, and myself and President Bush are Protestant, both Methodist, so Catholic doctrine does not apply to non-Catholics. I do understand the Pope's stand, although I feel it is unrealistic. Oh, and Pope John Paul II, (whom I really admired) scolded Kerry for his stand on abortion and if I recall correctly, applied the 'scolding' to all Catholic politicians in the US, and I do believe that the Catholic Church is totally against abortion as is the Protestant Church. Lindyy
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What I have a problem with is those people who are pro-life when it comes to babies in the womb, but have no problem with young men and women being sent to die in Iraq. That's being inconsistent. Mnhiker: Grrrrrr Lindyy Lindyy, According to American Catholic, Pope John Paul II, a holy man, spoke out against going to war with Iraq. He said, "War is never just another means that one can choose to employ for settling differences between nations," He said other things, which you can read in this link: http://www.americancatholic.org/news/JustWar/iraq/papalstatement.asp Our President should have listened. **************************************************** mnhiker: Although I have great respect for the Pope, I am not a puppet. Neither is President Bush, and myself and President Bush are Protestant, both Methodist, so Catholic doctrine does not apply to non-Catholics. I do understand the Pope's stand, although I feel it is unrealistic. Oh, and Pope John Paul II, (whom I really admired) scolded Kerry for his stand on abortion and if I recall correctly, applied the 'scolding' to all Catholic politicians in the US, and I do believe that the Catholic Church is totally against abortion as is the Protestant Church. Lindyy Lindyy, I am pro-life, but I don't judge people who have had abortions. Only God can judge. The Catholic Church is against abortion, but not all Catholics are for the Iraq War. Neither are all Protestants. If you respect life, you respect it in ALL its forms. 
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Edited by
Lindyy
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Tue 04/15/08 07:17 AM
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Lindyy, I am pro-life, but I don't judge people who have had abortions. Only God can judge. The Catholic Church is against abortion, but not all Catholics are for the Iraq War. Neither are all Protestants. If you respect life, you respect it in ALL its forms. mnhiker: I follow the principle "Love the sinner, hate the sin." There ARE people out there who have abortions for hateful reasons. You must realize this. The Bible is filled with stories about wars since the beginning. Just look at King David when he cut off the head of Goliath. The Bible says there will be wars and rumours of wars. NO ONE wants war, but some things cannot be avoided. Not every is for the war - not everyone is against the war. "A MOTHER'S QUESTION: A mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die in Iraq ?' A mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die in Saudi Arabia ?' A mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die in Kuwait ?' Another mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die in Vietnam ?' Another mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die in Korea ?' Another mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die on Iwo Jima ?' Another mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die on a battlefield on a field in France ?' Yet another mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die at Gettysburg ?' And yet another mother asked President... 'Why did my son have to die on a frozen field near Valley Forge ?' Then long, long ago, a mother asked... 'Heavenly Father ... why did my Son have to die on a cross outside of Jerusalem ?' The answer is the same... 'So that others may have life and dwell in peace, happiness, and freedom.' " This was emailed to me with no author. I thought the magnitude and the simplicity were awesome. mnhiker, it is WRONG to try to spin off on abortion and apply the same to the Iraq war. As stated above, there have been and will continue to be MANY wars until the end of time. Respectfully, Lindyy
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