Topic: Ladies....
longhairbiker's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:43 PM


Im against them...its like planning to fail.


has nothing to do with thinking you should be entitled to any assets he had prior to the marriage
....correct.

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:46 PM
Edited by Single_Rob on Thu 04/10/08 09:46 PM

the thing about prenups..is

1. it implies whoever asks for it, has already predisposed of the marriage, doesn't think it will last, or is lookin forward to the divorce

2. it implies you don't trust the person you're marrying


when i left my X hubs, i asked for what i brought into the marriage, which was my furniture, my car, and at least 1/2 time with our daughter

wanted nothing else, and don't regret asking for only those thigns

there was no prenup, but i feel i was already put thru enough, i just wanted the relationship ended
that is you, most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies. It does not imply you expect failure. Just as easily as you say it shows the man can walk out without repercussion, the flip side is that she could walk out at anytime without any fears of wondering if it is the right move. Either side you come down on it makes the other look like money grubbers. I made my own way in this life, and will continue to do so, as everyone should. Whatever is gained after the marriage is of course fair game

Lily0923's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:48 PM


the thing about prenups..is

1. it implies whoever asks for it, has already predisposed of the marriage, doesn't think it will last, or is lookin forward to the divorce

2. it implies you don't trust the person you're marrying


when i left my X hubs, i asked for what i brought into the marriage, which was my furniture, my car, and at least 1/2 time with our daughter

wanted nothing else, and don't regret asking for only those thigns

there was no prenup, but i feel i was already put thru enough, i just wanted the relationship ended
that is you, most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies. It does not imply you expect failure. Just as easily as you say it shows the man can walk out without repercussion, the flip side is that she could walk out at anytime without any fears of wondering if it is the right move. Either side you come down on it makes the other look like money grubbers. I made my own way in this life, and will continue to do so, as everyone should. Whatever is gained after the marriage is of course fair game


<------ gave up $600 in alimony that the state said I was allowed to have.

<------ took none of his 401K

<------ Only took the downpayment for the house as it came from my parent estate.

So Rob, don't say most....

no photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:49 PM
money shouldnt equate lovenoway noway noway noway

What this comes down to is "entitlement" ...selfishness~~~!!! Why blame the woman??? Maybe you should blame the lawyers????

I came to my marriage with a certain amount and so did my spouse......when I left......I left alot of things.....I got nothing and never tried for anything.......why would I???? The guy is almost dead!!!noway noway

longhairbiker's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:49 PM
I apologize lily for snapping. I was just being overdramatic in examples of real world uses of prenups in self protection.

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:50 PM



the thing about prenups..is

1. it implies whoever asks for it, has already predisposed of the marriage, doesn't think it will last, or is lookin forward to the divorce

2. it implies you don't trust the person you're marrying


when i left my X hubs, i asked for what i brought into the marriage, which was my furniture, my car, and at least 1/2 time with our daughter

wanted nothing else, and don't regret asking for only those thigns

there was no prenup, but i feel i was already put thru enough, i just wanted the relationship ended
that is you, most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies. It does not imply you expect failure. Just as easily as you say it shows the man can walk out without repercussion, the flip side is that she could walk out at anytime without any fears of wondering if it is the right move. Either side you come down on it makes the other look like money grubbers. I made my own way in this life, and will continue to do so, as everyone should. Whatever is gained after the marriage is of course fair game


<------ gave up $600 in alimony that the state said I was allowed to have.

<------ took none of his 401K

<------ Only took the downpayment for the house as it came from my parent estate.

So Rob, don't say most....
I stand by the hell hath no fury like a woman scorned version. Excuse me for being a little leary of human nature. Statistics are not on the side of longevity.

ellgee1976's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:50 PM

that is you, most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies. It does not imply you expect failure. Just as easily as you say it shows the man can walk out without repercussion, the flip side is that she could walk out at anytime without any fears of wondering if it is the right move. Either side you come down on it makes the other look like money grubbers. I made my own way in this life, and will continue to do so, as everyone should. Whatever is gained after the marriage is of course fair game



"most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies"

rob, i think that's a blanket statement, not all women do this, it's an unfair statement

no photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:51 PM
pfffffffft throws money around the thread!!!!explode

<-------doesnt care anymore.........frown

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:52 PM

money shouldnt equate lovenoway noway noway noway

What this comes down to is "entitlement" ...selfishness~~~!!! Why blame the woman??? Maybe you should blame the lawyers????

I came to my marriage with a certain amount and so did my spouse......when I left......I left alot of things.....I got nothing and never tried for anything.......why would I???? The guy is almost dead!!!noway noway
lawyers dont sign the final decree for the parties, they do. That is like blaming drugs for a person who commits murder while they are using them. Not the persons fault, he was doped up. come on, get real. Talk about responsibility deflection

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:53 PM


that is you, most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies. It does not imply you expect failure. Just as easily as you say it shows the man can walk out without repercussion, the flip side is that she could walk out at anytime without any fears of wondering if it is the right move. Either side you come down on it makes the other look like money grubbers. I made my own way in this life, and will continue to do so, as everyone should. Whatever is gained after the marriage is of course fair game



"most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies"

rob, i think that's a blanket statement, not all women do this, it's an unfair statement

add it to the list with greedy

ellgee1976's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:56 PM



that is you, most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies. It does not imply you expect failure. Just as easily as you say it shows the man can walk out without repercussion, the flip side is that she could walk out at anytime without any fears of wondering if it is the right move. Either side you come down on it makes the other look like money grubbers. I made my own way in this life, and will continue to do so, as everyone should. Whatever is gained after the marriage is of course fair game



"most women let attorneys talk them into believing they are entitled to the guys high school sports trophies"

rob, i think that's a blanket statement, not all women do this, it's an unfair statement

add it to the list with greedy


i dunno about other states, but in KS, you have to have been married for a few years before the judge even considers alimony..let alone anything beyond ending the relationship

Lily0923's photo
Thu 04/10/08 09:59 PM
I think that prenups have their place. If a millionair is marrying a stripper or something.... but they both know what is up to begin with.

In real life with NORMAL people, I don't think it is necessary.

Know who you are marrying before you marry them.

When I married my husband I knew his character, unfortunatly our marriage didn't last, but we still have mutual respect for each other. We did all threw the divorce. Hell we didn't even us an attorney. We used a paralegal just to fill out the paperwork.

But we knew that about each other BEFORE we got married, dated for 4 years.... Use your heart when it comes to dating, use your head when it comes to marriage.

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:00 PM
It's ok, the debate has pretty much been weighed in on. The mojority of women believe that they are entitled to anything a man made before they got together. It is pretty much black and white. Unless I get extremely lucky down the road, I will be single for the rest of my life because I will not get married without one

zanne46's photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:02 PM
I didn't read this whole post...

I declined signing a prenump once...

Because...if the marriage ended..regardless of the situation...I would get $5000.00...

He was a cheater...so who was the looser here????

In the end..without a prenump...in the divorce...

I signed the home back to him....1.cause it was his prior...2.thats were my children would go when they were with their dad....they were born there..

it was home..

today...yes..I would..as long as it was fair...as i am not a cheater..lier...etc...

I don't look at it as the marriage is doomed because of one..

I guess thats from experience and I didn't work my ass off like the man did to get to were he is today..to feel the need to protect himself...

because to many ppl marry for momey..male or female..

thats it...:smile: :wink: flowerforyou

ellgee1976's photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:04 PM

It's ok, the debate has pretty much been weighed in on. The mojority of women believe that they are entitled to anything a man made before they got together. It is pretty much black and white. Unless I get extremely lucky down the road, I will be single for the rest of my life because I will not get married without one


wrong assumption in my opinion

the prenup is unnecessary if, like lily said, you know the person you're marrying

i don't believe i was entitled to anything but MY things, and 1/2 time with our daughter

i have NOTHING of his, and the things i left at his place...like say, my candles, or say, laundry...he brought over, anything of his, i gave to him freely

rob you're focused on the material things, marriage is not about the material things, i think that's where you're thinking is differing from mine

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:05 PM


It's ok, the debate has pretty much been weighed in on. The mojority of women believe that they are entitled to anything a man made before they got together. It is pretty much black and white. Unless I get extremely lucky down the road, I will be single for the rest of my life because I will not get married without one


wrong assumption in my opinion

the prenup is unnecessary if, like lily said, you know the person you're marrying

i don't believe i was entitled to anything but MY things, and 1/2 time with our daughter

i have NOTHING of his, and the things i left at his place...like say, my candles, or say, laundry...he brought over, anything of his, i gave to him freely

rob you're focused on the material things, marriage is not about the material things, i think that's where you're thinking is differing from mine
you never truly know anyone besides yourself. If we did there would not be any divorces. You're darn right I am thinking material here, and so are all of you. If you didn't think material at all signing it wouldn't matter.

no photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:07 PM
I hope all you men keep all your money and live happily ever after!!!indifferent

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:08 PM

I hope all you men keep all your money and live happily ever after!!!indifferent
that is the second time you said that, thank you

PINKYBLUISH's photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:08 PM

I didn't read this whole post...

I declined signing a prenump once...

Because...if the marriage ended..regardless of the situation...I would get $5000.00...

He was a cheater...so who was the looser here????

In the end..without a prenump...in the divorce...

I signed the home back to him....1.cause it was his prior...2.thats were my children would go when they were with their dad....they were born there..

it was home..

today...yes..I would..as long as it was fair...as i am not a cheater..lier...etc...

I don't look at it as the marriage is doomed because of one..

I guess thats from experience and I didn't work my ass off like the man did to get to were he is today..to feel the need to protect himself...

because to many ppl marry for momey..male or female..

thats it...:smile: :wink: flowerforyou

second that...:smile:

ellgee1976's photo
Thu 04/10/08 10:08 PM
Edited by ellgee1976 on Thu 04/10/08 10:10 PM

you never truly know anyone besides yourself. If we did there would not be any divorces. You're darn right I am thinking material here, and so are all of you. If you didn't think material at all signing it wouldn't matter.


if i thought material, i'd have taken him for the house, his truck, and full custody of our daughter, i'd have proven him unfit intstantly with his abuse

i knew him well enough to know, that he wouldn't intentionally hurt our daughter, and needed a vehicle to come get her for visitation..so try not to assume you know wtf you're talkin about with your blanket statements rob, they're very unfair

i never thought of material when i got my divorce