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And then there's benefits being paid to children of illegal immigrants. excused me but i am naturalized so what is your point ?I have lived here 43 of my 45 yrs and I'm just as much of a citizen as you.We are citizens period. CLDMom: I will put my Golden Retriever in her 'attack' mode if you want me to!! Lindyy 
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Hmmmmmmmm......time to look at the whole picture here.....
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Hmmmmmmmm......time to look at the whole picture here.....
UGHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh......Lets,,,,,,,, you show me yours........ and then I'll show you mine!! 
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150 years from now, the clintons will be recognised for what they are.... the most destructive, anti moral, lying regime in our history. the people who brought us "free" trade, a scandal a week, oral sex isnt sex, janet reno/ waco, ruby ridge, selling military secrets to china one blow job at a time, ect. ect. ect. how soon we forget. Wasn't the Ruby Ridge mess during Daddy Bush's term? |
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ruby ridge happened August 21, 1992
Clinton was president elect in 1992 |
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the cause of our economic decline originates in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act when we first had a part of our Constitution changed..and the BIGGEST change possible..the Constitution states that congress should have the sole authority to print and regulate our nation's currency..and what did woodrow wilson's act doooo, it gave up this great power of controlling our nations money over to a PRIVATE entity!..international BANKERS...most of whom weren't even from AMERICA! and as one of them, Mayor Rothschild put it "give me control of a nations' currency, and i care not who makes it's laws." this was a very powerful change in our countries history..perhaps the most powerful..and in the long run NOT for the better! sure it was sold to the people back then as giving us a more "elastic" currency that could facilitate better trading..but it's clear now that the international bankers' globalist wishes have every country dangling from money-pulated strings..acting in their one world government play. "ding ding ding" we have a winner! 
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I thought you were going to show us the whole picture, gypsy??
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the cause of our economic decline originates in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act when we first had a part of our Constitution changed..and the BIGGEST change possible..the Constitution states that congress should have the sole authority to print and regulate our nation's currency..and what did woodrow wilson's act doooo, it gave up this great power of controlling our nations money over to a PRIVATE entity!..international BANKERS...most of whom weren't even from AMERICA! and as one of them, Mayor Rothschild put it "give me control of a nations' currency, and i care not who makes it's laws." this was a very powerful change in our countries history..perhaps the most powerful..and in the long run NOT for the better! sure it was sold to the people back then as giving us a more "elastic" currency that could facilitate better trading..but it's clear now that the international bankers' globalist wishes have every country dangling from money-pulated strings..acting in their one world government play. "ding ding ding" we have a winner!
Thats a stretch at best! 
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the cause of our economic decline originates in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act when we first had a part of our Constitution changed..and the BIGGEST change possible..the Constitution states that congress should have the sole authority to print and regulate our nation's currency..and what did woodrow wilson's act doooo, it gave up this great power of controlling our nations money over to a PRIVATE entity!..international BANKERS...most of whom weren't even from AMERICA! and as one of them, Mayor Rothschild put it "give me control of a nations' currency, and i care not who makes it's laws." this was a very powerful change in our countries history..perhaps the most powerful..and in the long run NOT for the better! sure it was sold to the people back then as giving us a more "elastic" currency that could facilitate better trading..but it's clear now that the international bankers' globalist wishes have every country dangling from money-pulated strings..acting in their one world government play. "ding ding ding" we have a winner!
Thats a stretch at best!
How is it a stretch when what he said was all based on fact? |
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the cause of our economic decline originates in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act when we first had a part of our Constitution changed..and the BIGGEST change possible..the Constitution states that congress should have the sole authority to print and regulate our nation's currency..and what did woodrow wilson's act doooo, it gave up this great power of controlling our nations money over to a PRIVATE entity!..international BANKERS...most of whom weren't even from AMERICA! and as one of them, Mayor Rothschild put it "give me control of a nations' currency, and i care not who makes it's laws." this was a very powerful change in our countries history..perhaps the most powerful..and in the long run NOT for the better! sure it was sold to the people back then as giving us a more "elastic" currency that could facilitate better trading..but it's clear now that the international bankers' globalist wishes have every country dangling from money-pulated strings..acting in their one world government play. "ding ding ding" we have a winner!
Thats a stretch at best!
How is it a stretch when what he said was all based on fact? ohhh yeah warelephant..there are more and more educated people on here now to stand up for the truth! thx! solution=technology+communication+exponential factor 
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Sun 04/06/08 05:30 PM
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the cause of our economic decline originates in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act when we first had a part of our Constitution changed..and the BIGGEST change possible..the Constitution states that congress should have the sole authority to print and regulate our nation's currency..and what did woodrow wilson's act doooo, it gave up this great power of controlling our nations money over to a PRIVATE entity!..international BANKERS...most of whom weren't even from AMERICA! and as one of them, Mayor Rothschild put it "give me control of a nations' currency, and i care not who makes it's laws." this was a very powerful change in our countries history..perhaps the most powerful..and in the long run NOT for the better! sure it was sold to the people back then as giving us a more "elastic" currency that could facilitate better trading..but it's clear now that the international bankers' globalist wishes have every country dangling from money-pulated strings..acting in their one world government play. "ding ding ding" we have a winner!
Thats a stretch at best!
How is it a stretch when what he said was all based on fact? I say this because there is still not an agreement on the causes of the great depression. Your theory to the cause is the same as Ron Paul's and many others, and yet there are even more who believe the effects of money supply and the supply of gold which backed many currencies before the Great Depression are the main cause! Thats pretty much why the Fed came into being. To get away from the gold standard, but although we had converted our economic system, the rest of the world remained on the gold standard! Many (economists) believe the Fed reserve is why we were able to recover faster than the rest of the world, and even more so that the Fed Reserve kept the crash from being worse! It just depends on who you ask or what site you visit! Facts, in this case are fluid. Ron Paul claims that he knows why the great depression happened, while the majority of economist, then and now, can not put their finger on just one cause. Most however do agree that the Fed Res is why we haven't experienced another. Esp in 1987, the largest single day, stock market drop in history. The DOW lost over 22% of its value! So, while not alone in using the Fed Res as the soul scape-goat for the cause of the Great Depression, your reasons are at best a stretch!! 
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And then there's benefits being paid to children of illegal immigrants. excused me but i am naturalized so what is your point ?I have lived here 43 of my 45 yrs and I'm just as much of a citizen as you.We are citizens period. Did you miss the word 'illegal' in there or what? I have no problem with people who come here legally. And I said children of illegal immigrants. A loophole that should be closed, IMO. |
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wiley...i had to look again too because i didn't read it in a bad way. i agree about illegals
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I think the Fed needs tweaking, maybe an over-haul, but to completely dissolve it as a gov enity, and go back to the gold standard is insane.
I, however, do recognize my limitations to economic comprehension. It should be left up to a group of say 15 members, each with a life-time of expierience in economics, esp. on such a scale and complexity as the economy of The US to decide and make decisions's.  Not me!
And, I do know that if I need credit counseling or advice, I will go to an accountant, before I do my doctor!
I have a lot of issues with Ron Paul as President! Im Independent, not insane!!! 
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hey Fanta....A C phlegm
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hey Fanta....A C phlegm
Thats a funny show! I want to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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the cause of our economic decline originates in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act when we first had a part of our Constitution changed..and the BIGGEST change possible..the Constitution states that congress should have the sole authority to print and regulate our nation's currency..and what did woodrow wilson's act doooo, it gave up this great power of controlling our nations money over to a PRIVATE entity!..international BANKERS...most of whom weren't even from AMERICA! and as one of them, Mayor Rothschild put it "give me control of a nations' currency, and i care not who makes it's laws." this was a very powerful change in our countries history..perhaps the most powerful..and in the long run NOT for the better! sure it was sold to the people back then as giving us a more "elastic" currency that could facilitate better trading..but it's clear now that the international bankers' globalist wishes have every country dangling from money-pulated strings..acting in their one world government play. "ding ding ding" we have a winner!
Thats a stretch at best!
How is it a stretch when what he said was all based on fact? I say this because there is still not an agreement on the causes of the great depression. Your theory to the cause is the same as Ron Paul's and many others, and yet there are even more who believe the effects of money supply and the supply of gold which backed many currencies before the Great Depression are the main cause! Thats pretty much why the Fed came into being. To get away from the gold standard, but although we had converted our economic system, the rest of the world remained on the gold standard! Many (economists) believe the Fed reserve is why we were able to recover faster than the rest of the world, and even more so that the Fed Reserve kept the crash from being worse! It just depends on who you ask or what site you visit! Facts, in this case are fluid. Ron Paul claims that he knows why the great depression happened, while the majority of economist, then and now, can not put their finger on just one cause. Most however do agree that the Fed Res is why we haven't experienced another. Esp in 1987, the largest single day, stock market drop in history. The DOW lost over 22% of its value! So, while not alone in using the Fed Res as the soul scape-goat for the cause of the Great Depression, your reasons are at best a stretch!!
i didn't even mention the great depression...the point is that our country and revolutionary war was based on our independence from the british and their money monopoly,that's why our constitution states clearly that our congress should have the sole authority over our money's manufacture and regulation! and what was the first thing to be changed about our founder's explicit directions on how to KEEP this country free!? Our monetary system was handed over to a PRIVATE group! THAT's some s**t..that's all im sayin
"give me control of a nation's currency, and i care not who makes it's law." -mayor rothschild(INTERNATIONAL BANKER...) |
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I think the Fed needs tweaking, maybe an over-haul, but to completely dissolve it as a gov enity, and go back to the gold standard is insane. I, however, do recognize my limitations to economic comprehension. It should be left up to a group of say 15 members, each with a life-time of expierience in economics, esp. on such a scale and complexity as the economy of The US to decide and make decisions's. Not me!
And, I do know that if I need credit counseling or advice, I will go to an accountant, before I do my doctor!
I have a lot of issues with Ron Paul as President! Im Independent, not insane!!!
the FED is no more federal than FEDERAL EXPRESS..but i agree, we can't go back to a gold standard..that was the first thing that the fed did to make sure we were dependent on them..they took away our gold standard! |
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The Federal Reserve is the central bank of the United States. Its unique structure includes a federal government agency, the Board of Governors, in Washington, D.C., and
12 regional Reserve Banks. It is half and half, but mo matter it is under the control of the Gov., and answers to the Gov.. 7 members are directly appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate! No member may serve for more than 14 yrs. Organized as such, no one member can have too much power and structured as such Elected officals, without great expierience and education (Ron Paul)in such a complex economic system, are able to serve their elected office without being economic geniuses! It has kept us from another Great Depression for almost 100 yrs, and is the top financial model in the world. It has been soo sucessful, it is copied by many countries! What say Ron Paul on replaceing it with? My Daddy always told me, if it aint broke why fix it!! Dont be thrown by the decline in the dollar world-wide. That is, according to plan, due to our enormous trade defecit, and globalization! |
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Edited by
mnhiker
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Mon 04/07/08 08:19 PM
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The Federal Reserve is the central bank of the United States. Its unique structure includes a federal government agency, the Board of Governors, in Washington, D.C., and 12 regional Reserve Banks. It is half and half, but mo matter it is under the control of the Gov., and answers to the Gov.. 7 members are directly appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate! No member may serve for more than 14 yrs. Organized as such, no one member can have too much power and structured as such Elected officals, without great expierience and education (Ron Paul)in such a complex economic system, are able to serve their elected office without being economic geniuses! It has kept us from another Great Depression for almost 100 yrs, and is the top financial model in the world. It has been soo sucessful, it is copied by many countries! What say Ron Paul on replaceing it with? My Daddy always told me, if it aint broke why fix it!! Dont be thrown by the decline in the dollar world-wide. That is, according to plan, due to our enormous trade defecit, and globalization! I agree, Fanta. Things look bad economically, but it could be worse. I could never be elected President, because as my first official act I would bring in the top 100 accountants from the Fortune 500 and have them audit the Federal Government. Can you imagine the outcry! Someone would probably want to shoot me. 
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