Topic: Creation
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Mon 03/31/08 08:32 AM
They were just a alien scientists messing with DNA. Forget the rib story.

Who back then would understand DNA? Nobody. So they explained it to the primitive population in a language they might understand.

JB

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Mon 03/31/08 08:53 AM

Yahweh made man out of the dust of the earth and Eve from adam.

Now Yahweh had no problem creating man out of Dust.


but "Miles" you still haven't explain why Yahweh had the "need" to create imperfection ..unless of course Yahweh is incapable of creating perfection

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Mon 03/31/08 11:07 AM
free will is not perfect, why did he gives thought

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Mon 03/31/08 12:10 PM
He did not. Everything has a choice. Yahshua is the only one to follow through and he is called perfect.The angels have choices also. some follow satan as Satan had choices also. A creator that does not allow choice has created a robot. Miles

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Mon 03/31/08 03:05 PM

He did not. Everything has a choice. Yahshua is the only one to follow through and he is called perfect.The angels have choices also. some follow satan as Satan had choices also. A creator that does not allow choice has created a robot. Miles



That means the creator had no choice and he is a robot.:tongue:

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Mon 03/31/08 04:01 PM

Yahshua is the only one to follow through and he is called perfect.


if Yahshua was perfect then he wouldn't have questioned God by saiding "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?


A creator that does not allow choice has created a robot. Miles


the choice is to either become a "robot" and follow all the laws that the supposed creator has set forth or face the creator's wrath..this lack of choice actually displays the imperfections in the creator

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Mon 03/31/08 04:38 PM


that is precisely the effect of the update.



that was the whole point of the hands-on clinic, my friend.



more distractions only delay the download.


all you are doing is helping to spread a virus that cause the computer hard drive to replicate or parrot the same information over and over until it delete the common sense program







naw, that's your imagination.

You haven't downloaded it.

it is self policing and credible.

lots of free fixes too.

you'll see.

be patient.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Mon 03/31/08 05:17 PM

naw, that's your imagination.

You haven't downloaded it.

it is self policing and credible.

lots of free fixes too.

you'll see.

be patient.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


well then "wouldee" let's test if that update you downloaded is a virus that delete all new information that wasn't part of the original program ..simply ask the program "why does a God has the need to create imperfection" and see the answer it comes up with ....I bet the computer crashes

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Mon 03/31/08 06:05 PM

I like to hear the differing opinions. I think they're great. And even when they're not nice, they're sweet hearts. Just big old putty cats!

i'd like to be as humble as u r my friend. i pray everyday to have a little bit more patience.
When i see individuals with such hate. It's just nauseating for me.
I hope someday God blesses me with more patience.

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Mon 03/31/08 06:16 PM


I like to hear the differing opinions. I think they're great. And even when they're not nice, they're sweet hearts. Just big old putty cats!

i'd like to be as humble as u r my friend. i pray everyday to have a little bit more patience.
When i see individuals with such hate. It's just nauseating for me.
I hope someday God blesses me with more patience.

It's funny that you say that. You have been an inspiration to me since I joined these forums. :wink:

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Mon 03/31/08 06:18 PM



I like to hear the differing opinions. I think they're great. And even when they're not nice, they're sweet hearts. Just big old putty cats!

i'd like to be as humble as u r my friend. i pray everyday to have a little bit more patience.
When i see individuals with such hate. It's just nauseating for me.
I hope someday God blesses me with more patience.

It's funny that you say that. You have been an inspiration to me since I joined these forums. :wink:

thank you.
I believe i'm the most imperfect among the christians though.
I might be closer to hell than some non-believers.

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Mon 03/31/08 06:22 PM
Funches on another thread I explained that Yahshua was not crying out to Yahweh his Father but to the Angels who had charge over him as Satan tempted him in the desert Shalom..Miles

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Mon 03/31/08 06:25 PM
Yahweh the comming together of your mom and dad produced you. Did they abuse you by having rules like do not run or play by the street or did they do it for thier own good. We are children believe it or not. The laws are for our own good. No difference.

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Mon 03/31/08 06:26 PM

God created this world as a perfect whole. He created the beautiful, harmonious world that man threw away -- the perfect world that we are longing to find again, the world for which we are all searching.

In this perfect world God placed a perfect man. Adam was perfect because nothing that God does can ever be less than perfect and upon this perfect man God bestowed not only the most precious gift of all--the gift of life eternal, He also gave him the gift of freedom. God gave to man the freedom of choice.

More to follow tomorrow, maybe. If we're lucky.


I think some people put their egoistic opinions in the bible. Riddle me this: If God man man perfect and man sins, is man really perfect? And for all the people who believe in Satan: If Satan is sin/evil and is the ruler of evil, did God create sin/evil when he created Satan?

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Mon 03/31/08 06:51 PM
They both were at 1st. Then they decided they were smarter than Yahweh

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Mon 03/31/08 06:53 PM
How do you clean your house without robots?

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Mon 03/31/08 06:55 PM

Funches on another thread I explained that Yahshua was not crying out to Yahweh his Father but to the Angels who had charge over him as Satan tempted him in the desert Shalom..Miles


forget it "Miles" ...Yahshya cried my God my God ..and not my angels my angels ..either way a perfect Yahshua wouldn't have had to cry out anything because a perfect Yashusa would have already knew the answers because he was supposely part of God's Divine Plan ..so this means that Yahshua was not perfect and didn't even have a clue as to what was going on and obvious wasn't part of any Divine plan

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Mon 03/31/08 07:01 PM

Yahweh the comming together of your mom and dad produced you. Did they abuse you by having rules like do not run or play by the street or did they do it for thier own good. We are children believe it or not. The laws are for our own good. No difference.


well "Miles" that's not a good example because some parents did or do abuse they children and even intentionally place them in harms way even to the point of getting them kill or killing them theirselves ... Yahwah and Yashusa are example of this

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Mon 03/31/08 07:10 PM
What you qouted is an English translation. Even the bible leaves alone what Yahshua cried out. My EL My EL.. He was crying out to the prophecy about the Angels having charge over him.

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Mon 03/31/08 07:10 PM
Yashua called my God my God because God had forsaken him at that time. That was the plan. Yashua took on the sin of the world. A perfect God can't abide sin, so his perfect son then became the perfect sacrifice. He died and rose again afterwards. It's a great story. You should read the book sometime.

And guess who he did this for? For you. For me. For everyone. If you want to take advantage of this, all you have to do is ask, determine to follow him, and confess it publicly. Then get baptized by immersion, receive the spirit and follow through: worship, fellowship, learn, minister and work on your mission.

Good luck to you. Let me know if you need help, prayer, advice of whatever.

Or not.

But I hope not.