Topic: Creation
Lordling's photo
Sun 03/30/08 08:25 PM

God created this world as a perfect whole. He createrd the beautiful, harmonious world that man threw away -- the perfect world that we are longing to find again, the world for which we are all searching.

In this perfect world God placed a perfect man. Adam was perfect because nothign that Goddoes can ever be less than perfect and upon this perfect man God bestowed not only the most precious gift of all--the gift of life eternal, He also gave him the gift of freedom. God gave to man the freedom of choice.

More to follow tomorrow, maybe. If we're lucky.


Out of curiosity, have you read the Enuma elish?

yashafox_F4X1's photo
Sun 03/30/08 08:28 PM
No, but it sounds interesting. What is it? I'm cracking the book of Mormon currently. And I'll probably follow up on this creation thread tomorrow. Got some killer text for y'all.

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Sun 03/30/08 08:30 PM




Do your own homework. Stop looking at my paper. laugh


apparently that paper is blank away


noway If not skorg ipshay?
I find your callow and pugnacious come-backs to be not worthy of further comment.


that's a fancy way of saying that I left you speechless



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You people crack me up!!

So funny.

(.... gets up off the floor and leaves holding her tummy in pain from laughing.... )


yashafox_F4X1's photo
Sun 03/30/08 08:31 PM
Not up on my Babylonian creation myths and all that. Is that the one with Gilgamesh, Marduk et al.?

Lordling's photo
Sun 03/30/08 09:15 PM

Not up on my Babylonian creation myths and all that. Is that the one with Gilgamesh, Marduk et al.?


Yes and no, that's the Epic of Gilgamesh. The Enuma elish is the creation epic. It is regarded by many theologians as the probable source for Genesis. Marduk's name as Supreme was added to the creation epic "after the fact" due to his rise in power. It was originally a different name, but either it is unknown, or it slips my mind.

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Sun 03/30/08 09:30 PM


rabbit and funches can't once you just say either something nice or nothing at all.



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ahem! (clears her throat)

Why?

If all everyone did is "say something nice," this would be a boring place I think.

It is nice to have our pre-conceived notions and unsupported proclamations challenged by intelligent questions.

We are not idiots who will accept just anyones statement of truth. We are thinking individuals.

And yes, we are free. Free to voice our opinions, our disbelief, our frustrations etc.

No we well not be silent.

Sorry.

Love Ya Kittycat!

Jeannie





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I love you too.....and it was more sarcastic...like I would ever shut those two up....giggle....

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Mon 03/31/08 05:10 AM

I love you too.....and it was more sarcastic...like I would ever shut those two up....giggle....


and it was a very nice question that I asked of "feralcatlady" so please oh great feralcatlady Goddess of the Biblical "google cut and paste" give me thou wisdom and answer my question oh great ye ...

since a perfect God can only create perfection then explain why would a God create imperfection ..

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Mon 03/31/08 05:27 AM


I love you too.....and it was more sarcastic...like I would ever shut those two up....giggle....


and it was a very nice question that I asked of "feralcatlady" so please oh great feralcatlady Goddess of the Biblical "google cut and paste" give me thou wisdom and answer my question oh great ye ...

since a perfect God can only create perfection then explain why would a God create imperfection ..


The thing is Funches we never tier of telling the truth, and they grow weary trying to defend the ridiculous. Soon there will be no one willing to stand up to the truth.

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Mon 03/31/08 06:25 AM


Perfect men only do perfect things



Why keep beating the same horse?

Adam and Eve were perfect in all ways...except for their own thoughts. Because of free will. They CHOOSE to do evil.

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Mon 03/31/08 06:46 AM

Why keep beating the same horse?

the answer is simple "spidercmb" it's because the horse is not dead and only playing possum to avoid answering the hard questions


Adam and Eve were perfect in all ways...except for their own thoughts. Because of free will. They CHOOSE to do evil.


you're just going around in circles ..how can Adam and Eve be perfect if their thoughts are imperfect ...again the question is not about adam and eve it is about why a God would lower itself by creating imperfection ..

froglittlesis's photo
Mon 03/31/08 07:00 AM



Here's a thought

Why would a God that created us waste all those veins. If you look at our bodies the veins go all over the place kinda crazy. If God had made us he would have used the ol Straight line idea. I assume he would know the shortest distance to these things.



He does know the shortest distance he wanted you to have something to try to figure out!!!laugh

wouldee's photo
Mon 03/31/08 07:19 AM
Edited by wouldee on Mon 03/31/08 07:21 AM
It seems that Good spent from around 1706bc to 397bc explaining the inner workings of man to man and then took a 400 year break and came to visit man and give a hands-on clinic.

2000 years since the hands-on clinic, man still hasn't completely understood that.

I spent the first 30 years of my life sorting through the distractions and getting close to what the clinicians were driving at brfore I went to the author and got my hard drive flashed with the update.

I was able to share the address to visit for the update with hundreds if not thousands that have since got their own hard drives updated and flashed. They in turn are sharing this as they can.

Sooner or later, one of those, or any of the fortunate others that have done the same in our generation will reach you all shortly, I hope.

Please be patient.

There are many distractions. Assuredly.

Help is on the way, and sure to reach you soon enough.

Again, please be patient.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 03/31/08 07:28 AM
Funches
Spider is right. The freewill were given to them the same as the angels. Satan convinced them to follow him and not believe Yahweh. The theme is obedience out of respect. They were told they would die if they ate from the tree. So life evermore was thier if they would only believe. A good lesson for us today...Blessings..Miles

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/31/08 07:29 AM
one persons "truths" may not be someone elses. If one doesn't believe, then don't believe. I feel no need to tear someone or their beliefs down because i don't agree. I believe what I do...have no need to prove it to anyone and no one will change my mind. I love to learn about others and what makes them who they are. it's a part of learning

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Mon 03/31/08 07:33 AM
umm, I take issue with a bunch of old guys writing about who came first. You have to have a women to give birth. Its the chicken and the egg story. Come to think about, you guys don't have eggs, just tadpoles.

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Mon 03/31/08 07:44 AM

I was able to share the address to visit for the update with hundreds if not thousands that have since got their own hard drives updated and flashed. They in turn are sharing this as they can.


if appears that update still doesn't allow the user to access or accept any information beyond the program ....one possible remedy for this problem is for the user to clear out the hard drive and upload a new program that would allow access to other information without deleting it




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Mon 03/31/08 07:47 AM
Edited by funches on Mon 03/31/08 07:49 AM

Funches
Spider is right. The freewill were given to them the same as the angels. Satan convinced them to follow him and not believe Yahweh. The theme is obedience out of respect. They were told they would die if they ate from the tree. So life evermore was thier if they would only believe. A good lesson for us today...Blessings..Miles


sorry Miles but you have closed your mind to the question ...the question is not about the "All-Star lineup of the biblical superstars that God created...the question ask why would God create those imperfection biblical superstars

wouldee's photo
Mon 03/31/08 07:58 AM
Edited by wouldee on Mon 03/31/08 07:59 AM


I was able to share the address to visit for the update with hundreds if not thousands that have since got their own hard drives updated and flashed. They in turn are sharing this as they can.


if appears that update still doesn't allow the user to access or accept any information beyond the program ....one possible remedy for this problem is for the user to clear out the hard drive and upload a new program that would allow access to other information without deleting it







that is precisely the effect of the update.



that was the whole point of the hands-on clinic, my friend.



more distractions only delay the download.



There are but only more distractions and they only serve to exascerbate the intended symbiosis inherent upon the construct.

please be patient. I know how frustrating waiting for the update can be.

:wink:

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Mon 03/31/08 08:11 AM

that is precisely the effect of the update.



that was the whole point of the hands-on clinic, my friend.



more distractions only delay the download.


all you are doing is helping to spread a virus that cause the computer hard drive to replicate or parrot the same information over and over until it delete the common sense program




Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 03/31/08 08:19 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Mon 03/31/08 08:41 AM
bunnykins

people do not want to believe this but rib is a mistranslation they have kept because it goes against out thought process.

Gen 2:20-22
But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which Yahweh Elohim had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
NKJV

Tesla was translate 12 times as chamber and 1 time in Gen as rib.

Now why is this?

Woman is a part of man and they are to come together as 1.

Yahshua when asked about marraige in the kingdom said you do not understand they niether marry or given in marraige. Yet we see in the New Jerusalem people on earth heaven on earth.

He also said it was for the 2 to become one.

Yahweh says when you committ adultry you sin against me.

Why would he say that?

Gen 2:21
He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place
NKJV

Yahweh made man out of the dust of the earth and Eve from adam.

Now Yahweh had no problem creating man out of Dust.

So why if he took a rib did he have to close Adam up.

Because Adam was made both sexes in 1. The 2 will become one.

The sin against Yahweh when adultry is committed.

The reason no marraige in the kingdom.

The man and wife will literally become one in the ressurrection once again. The man covers an unbelieving wife for if he did not his children would be unclean. Hard to believe resaerch this and see what u find...Blessings...Miles

This rib is a conjuction that was translated chamber

OT:6763
JV - beam, board, chamber, corner, leaf, plank, rib, side (chamber).
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)