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Mon 11/17/14 06:11 PM





He understands perfectly.




Yup, yup. "Deliberately obtuse."



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huh He coming at this from an angle of more than 90�?



Nahhhh...it's not mathematical jargon; it's an English idiom.


Mathematically-speaking, he keeps adding 2 + 2 together and coming up with a different answer each time.


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Oh... and imagined him flying back to (t)his thread under sharp angle like Batman...LOL



You know the saying that picture is worth more than a thousand words.

Betman can also do nice tricks which could impress the ladies.


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Mon 11/17/14 06:01 PM

The man who has been separated for 20 yrs, we thought he was already divorced ages ago as he gave us that impression. His explanation why he did not go thru with the divorce was that it was just a 'piece of paper'. But that piece of paper will forever classify him as a 'legally married man', even though he is separated.

Knowing him well, I think he still feels a bond somewhere.....thus, the hesitation to take the final clean break. Whether they could get together again, who knows...but it has been known to happen.

So, any decent woman....be they single, divorced, widowed or separated.... would walk away from a 'legally still married' man, unless, they were not in the relationship for 'real'!


Everyone makes their own decisions, but I would do the same. I would never have relationship with any married or separated men.

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Mon 11/17/14 05:53 PM
Hmmm ... should I get into "a combat mode" in case of a change of an angle or change nothing and continue enjoying popcorn?

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Mon 11/17/14 05:50 PM




He understands perfectly.




Yup, yup. "Deliberately obtuse."



drinks


huh He coming at this from an angle of more than 90�?


Perhaps he is Batman? Real one!

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Mon 11/17/14 05:33 PM
Edited by OnNewJourney on Mon 11/17/14 05:33 PM
Mmmm popcorn!:banana:

Thanks Dodo!flowerforyou

Thanks Ame!flowerforyou

Although it is logical for a single woman to refuse to date a man who is still legally married, the question is why wouldn't they try to be rational and look at things in another logical way, Peter's way?




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Mon 11/17/14 05:20 PM

Now taking bets on how soon this thread gets locked.


I expected this thread to be locked by now. It's beyond me why it didn't happen yet... and completely run out of popcorn!

Do you have any popcorn left?

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Mon 11/17/14 05:10 PM
Edited by OnNewJourney on Mon 11/17/14 05:20 PM

No, my wife did not cheat me. Yet another thing assumed or misunderstood. I don't care, it's gone too far to sort this up now. Read Zero_Effected's first post, I think quite the same. Add the fact, that many women have been cheated on, or have waited for married men to divorce to no avail. A divorce paper COULD be a false sense of security, that's my point. I wrote also "most" women in my first post, not all!

Btw, the Koran allows divorce if husband neglects the wife, that's a fact. Read it, it's a quite interesting book;o) If not the muslim church had misinterpret it….Catholic church is still hesitant with divorce…..
My reason why not push thru with divorce is written in my posts.
Peter


You wrote: "So you think I had these relationships when I was married?? All these mentioned here was in response to "men are not to be trusted" I wrote then that I had been cheated on.These relationships happened in my youth, none of them are connected with my marriage."

So, your wife didn't cheat you, but those you were not married to did.

Just thinking aloud here ... "A divorce paper is a FALSE SENSE OD SECURITY", says the man who is separated for four years and there is no end of separation in sight, while he uses all kinds of excuses to justify the delay.

Yet, he is surprised that his word underlined with an offer of 10 000 Euros for an answer didn't assure most women that he will get separated.

I have no further questions for you. rofl

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Mon 11/17/14 04:44 PM

I am going to repeat what I said on page 1 of this thread.

There is nothing wrong with a single woman walking away from a man who is still married.



Agreed!!!That's what I would do.

If it is over than get on with it and make it officially over. I'll believe it when I see it. Words are just words.

The way you put it, your question might also be rephrased as: "Why wouldn't you be with me while I am still married? Don't you see how many people cheat their spouses with no regrets? Why wouldn't do you the same if you care for me?" Because, it is cheating if you are still married.
And why should she be played against a future ex-wife? That sounds like a manipulation of both wife and the women you asked that question. You think you are THAT GOOD? LOL

BTW, anyone who throws away the money that way doesn't leave an impression of a trustworthy person. Such an attitude doesn't make a good impression at all. Se, here is your free answer without any further clarifications.

P.S.
Even eight pages later I am still not convinced that he doesn't think he is THAT GOOD, but this thread lost its appeal after I run out of popcorn, so...

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Mon 11/17/14 03:52 PM
I do not know you Peter. You might be a good man. Perhaps you are a great dad who loves his kids and doesn't want to get the divorce because of fear that your wife, who cheated you and used kids to blackmail you, will take everything you have and prevent you from seeing them or convince them you were just SOB. That's a possibility too. If that's the case, it doesn't take too much imagination to see the drama in a life of a women who would accept to have a relationship with you while you delay the divorce in order not to be ripped off by your ex and dad who become a stranger to his kids.
In conclusion; whatever you real reasons for leaving unfinished business are, some women will not get into relationships with separated men. I think Minglers already provided explanations. It's up to you to make your own conclusions and decisions. The best of luck in future!

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Mon 11/17/14 03:09 PM
Edited by OnNewJourney on Mon 11/17/14 04:00 PM
Women, who are also mothers, manage get divorce in Saudi Arabia, whose laws are more than unfavorable in all cases other than men filling for divorce, even if men are drug addicts or have AIDS which makes it a bit easier for them. It is a very difficult and expensive process, yet number of divorces in that country is growing and shows no tendency of slowing down.

You wrote:"Attorney Poland=read mobster style+I'm a foreigner=rip-a-new-a-hole-in-his-wallet
Anyway, Poland is the most radical Catholic country in Europe and my wife is deeply religious. I'm working on it!
If I would be really bad, I have the means to bribe a judge or who ever come running when winking some Euro's in the air. However, I want to fix this in a good way, I have two children's that are adorable and don't want to ruin our relationship(That is my relation to children for you that don't understand) by going berserk with lawyers and judges."


I didn't realize that married men with children have to face such a hardship in Poland, which makes their divorce even harder than divorce process women face in, for example, such a religious country as Saudi Arabia.

I have no idea how old your children are, but if you and your wife are the biological parents and you were married for seven years until the separation in 2010, than they are under the age of 11 now. Perhaps you are just waiting for them to turn 18 to avoid expensive divorce. Who knows... But again, that's your life, so it's none of my concern, although you brought it up in this discussion.

However, the way you are introducing new arguments and evading all the time proves intelligence.

It would be interesting to hear your opinion.

Why do YOU think women do not want to do anything with you because you are still married? Why don't they just trust you that you will be divorced?

To be honest with you I don't expect an answer, but it would come as a nice surprise.

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Mon 11/17/14 01:51 PM
Edited by OnNewJourney on Mon 11/17/14 01:53 PM


So I don't have any advice to give...and I don't think I did anyways. I don't think there is a right or wrong way of doing things. However more often then not relationships obey to maths.

If you are in love with someone that needs to see your divorce papers...you better get them unless she accepts not to have them and understands your point of view.

And considering society and the majority of point of views...it's probably up to you to get the divorce. Besides you said you hoped for it...so what is standing in the way ?

It's as simple as that...




THAT is the key question.:thumbsup:

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Mon 11/17/14 01:41 PM

Clavel

flowerforyou

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Mon 11/17/14 01:35 PM

Now taking bets on how soon this thread gets locked.


3 2 1 ...
























Any minute now winking



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Mon 11/17/14 01:25 PM


This thread needs ...






Agree!


That popcorn maker looks so familiar! :laughing:

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Mon 11/17/14 01:16 PM

@Chrystalfairy

Quote**** knows why that took so long. All it takes is a judge to say "Ok", you don't even have to be there?:Quote

It's probation time if parties have a temporary disagreement that end up bad. It's the same in Czech, Poland, Italy, Austria you name it. Except in Sweden, it doesn't take long time as all is decided by state law, 50% properties, 50% children= split custody, if not possible with split custody, the person who can't/isn't willing has to pay according to his/hers income. Yet again, according to state law. This is valid also for people living together without being married.

In Austria, a man has to pay her 40% of brut income until she retires. No matter if she start to live with another man. As taxes in Austria is one of the highest in Europe, a man is basically bankrupt when divorced.

This was a couple of years ago but I don't think it has changed much….

Peter



What are you trying to say?

That you do not want to go through the paperwork because you don't your want ex-wife to get the quoted percent of your income, or you don't want to face bankruptcy or...what?

Why did you bring out these laws? What do they have to do with your reasons for unfinished divorce procedure?

If those are your reasons for still being separated, why would anyone believe your word that you are planning to divorce in future?

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Mon 11/17/14 01:01 PM
Edited by OnNewJourney on Mon 11/17/14 01:19 PM


First I would say that you are right about insulting and bad manners. I should ignore a person when somebody is making up stories about my life. Further on, addressing somebody "like him" "He is" is a kind of insult, however sugared. I'll stop the insulting remarks now then.

So you think I had these relationships when I was married?? All these mentioned here was in response to "men are not to be trusted" I wrote then that I had been cheated on. These relationships happened in my youth, none of them are connected with my marriage.



Fine. I'm willing to admit making wrong assumptions, but not to apologize for the conclusions that still stand.

You had these relationships prior to that marriage and now you want to get into a new one before completing the divorce papers. One of the arguments you used included indirect justification of cheating by pointing out the fact many married people have relationships despite the fact they are still married. You know what it is called.

It still means leaving unfinished business and expecting the new better half to accept it, along with all the risks SHE should accept because you take your time and demand her to trust you without any proof. All you offer is your word without an appropriate action that follows it.

Regarding rude behavior, allow me to refer you to my first reply in which I clearly stated: "Se, here is your free answer without any further clarifications."

You have chosen to selectively focus on only one part of my reply, ignore the rest of it and ask for a clarification:

"Yes, words are just words, papers are just papers and people are just peoples. As I was saying, when I was just living with women, not married. No one was asking of papers to prove it! What's the difference?

And btw, what do you mean by throwing away money???"


By selectively listening, ignoring what you do not want to hear and making rude remarks because you disliked similar replies you got from others, you opened a door to being treated the way you were treated. So, yes, you were addressed as "him" which qualifies such a behavior equally rude as yours.

The person who demonstrates a lack of manners shouldn't rely on good manners of those whom he addresses in such a way.


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Mon 11/17/14 11:38 AM
correct

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Mon 11/17/14 11:36 AM
conclusion

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Mon 11/17/14 11:10 AM

opie you'd make a wonderful CEO, only the strong survive and have dominant genes. laugh


rofl

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Mon 11/17/14 11:03 AM


Men playing games is why it's hard for people to find their soulmates just plain childish!!!
WOOOOO easy now, all men? some women play games as well, just have to weed them out i guess,


Both men and women play games. To each his own.


Everyone wants something. The question is what they are willing to give in return.

Most Minglers already know that scammers come in all colors, shapes and sizes, but some have learned it the hard way and shared their experiences on many threads like this one for example: Topic how to know if you are talking with scammer 65% work





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