Watch Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn; Overboard. Wake up and start a new life. That's the choice, every dang day. Having survived a coma and loss of many memories and other things...I'm saying what it is. You choose a new life, every day, or you choose to repeat what you remember. Not remembering sucks bigtime. But you learn and you adjust and go forth with determination to live happily, today and tomorrow. Who can change the past, anyway? Change today. IMO I saw that movie - also 50 First Dates which I thought was a lot closer to what it might be like to live without most memories. But yet, the person did retain "some" memories. Enough to know to take a shower, etc. She wasn't like an infant every day she woke up. For my mother, I think not remembering was like a blessing. She certainly became more relaxed and a lot funnier :). But then who makes the decision to be happier or not? Is it a memory that does that? or something else? K |
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Memories are "life"? K If I ask you to describe your life, how do you do it? Memories? Experiences, which are memories, emotions felt, which are memories, etc... How can you tell me about your life without memories of how your life was or is? Mostly - yes, I agree. I don't think the majority has been trained or made aware to do it in any other way. I suppose if I had no memories and only "now", which instantly become a memory - things get really simple. Something like - here I am. And then it would be like having to retrain yourself everyday. Or, one would have to be able to absorb how to do things lightening fast because they'd only lose that memory later. Like a constant learning and creating all the time. I suppose that's what my life would be like. I don't even know if I could explain all that if I didn't remember. I'd exist, but I wouldn't know as what or who. Interesting :). K |
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Hi - I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee If your brain shuts down and you are still breathing, the you that did exist is gone, just a breathing organism remains with no memory, no emotion, no thoughts, no reactions, etc... So the mind is our life as we know it. I will give you an example, I have MS and during my last attack, which attacked parts of my brain, I lost memories. My children try to get me to remember these events and things we did but most of them are gone for good and will never come back. So sadly, I lost part of my life when my brain was attacked. Without our memories, thoughts, problem solving capability, reactions, emotions, etc.... The living body is nothing really. Memories are "life"? K |
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awareness pull the strings of ALL HUMAN BEHAVIOUR??? if it is NOT A CONSTANT HAPPENING AT ALL TIMES, then it show only a PARTIAL PERCEPTION, the same as a single human perception??? if the brain control many things indeed, as it see and taste and smell and touch, BUT WHAT IT ACCESS AS REALITY, or THRU THE EMOTION IT HAD, WHICH IS THE FIRST WAY OF HUMAN, then since there WERE INFINITE OTHER POSSIBLE REACTIONS SELF COULD HAVE MADE, SOMETHING HAS TO "TRIGGER" FIRST, THE SILENT THING THAT MADE PERCEIEVE AS IT DID??? OR ALL WOULD HAVE PERCEIEVD THE SAME!!! SO ALL HAD TO ALREADY EXIST, AS ALL ARE SEEING AND THINKING THE SAME, AND THIS IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE??? the same as, THE MIND CANNOT SEE THE OPPOSITE OF ALL IT THINK IS REALITY??? this come first in the natrual way of builign increased awareness, AS IF ALL FIRST AGREED, THEN NO GREATER QUESTIONS WOULD HAVE AROSE, AND NO GREATER QUESTIONS, NO INCREASED KNOWING??? how can self KNOW since it is self, THAT WITHOUT IT'S GREATER SELF OR LOGOS OR AWARENESS, it would BE BUT A COMPUTOR??? some wrote small pieces of what greater awareness whispered in recieving, some call it channeling, som call it god, some as gaurdian angel, some as jesus, some as socretee's, some as aristotle, some as john lennon, some as biddha, some as all the others, but truly intil one see all data of all MORTALS AS EQUAL, as who care's if some of the youth dispute what be, AS EACH "THING" ONLY DELIVERED UP A SINGLE SPECTRUM, and the same that created what EACH AND ALL OF THE PAST ONCE SPOKE, then cannot be unlocked WITHIN EACH ONE, to complete all data that is without, until EACH HUMANS DATA IS ALL TAKEN INTO THE COLLECTIVE SUPER POWER REASONING POWERS THE COLLECTIVE AWARENESS OF ALL HUMAN KIND??? it only take any BRAIN knowing that if it think something is WRONG, this be the GREATEST TELL THERE IS MORE IN IT, as only what sound wrong is as strange to the ears, so then naturally going to spur emotion unto accessing it as a wrong, BUT SURELY IT IS SEEN THAT IT IS ONLY WHAT EVER STRUCK ANY HUMAN MORTAL AS FIRST "NEGATIVE" THAT BUILT THE VERY PERCEPTION OF BREAKING THINGS INTO A CUT STREAM, AS SMALLER ENERGY, A LESSOR LIFE, A LESSOR AWARENESS??? NEGATIVE lead wisdom, while postive lead to folly and delusion, as what greater awareness cares what emotion is used to create happiness unto infinity??? I had to really read this carefully because I'm not used to the grammar useage. I have a difficult enough time with words, much less grammar - lol! As far as being able to perceive something as "it really" is and not with one's own past, to me that still takes a part of the brain to push the past out of the way. While there is a life force there which may already know things on a more esoteric plane, on a human plane, it may have the whole computer (brain) in the way and then goes into a "not know". I think to know oneself, there has to be "something" to know "about" and as a body, this might be gathered through the brain and stored in the brain and in the mind as well. Which leads to another question. Is the mind the brain? K |
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The illusion of life? The self deluding aspects of life? Yes. Life exists perfectly with or without our presence. A brain injured person still has a life force.... The potential of earning and learning the continuum of energy, is availabe to all... most get stuck in the details....hence the questions of where 'life' may reside.. Original question of about whether our brain controls and create all of who we are, then seems to be about 80%, but that the 20% or so is the life force travelling through the programming of the brain and coming out manifest through the body. So far, that's how it appears to me :). K |
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no the heart counts to But isn't there something in the brain that is connected to the heart? That our sorrows, joys, etc., are spiked off by something in the brain which then effect our heart? K |
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Yes, it really is all in our head. For example, if we happen to get into an accident and get brain damage, we are never the same person again. Then that leads me into the question of why some people are able to see and communication with "the dead" (so to speak). The so called "dead" don't have heads. Do you think its all made up? K Yes, I think it is far more likely that it is indeed made up. Then some pretty strange/weird and wild stories do abound. Although, there are some things that would be difficult to explain. Like how does someone know something is going to happen before it does? What about in "traffic"? Like there have been several times when "something" told me not to turn here or to stop there or "wait" when there wasn't any apparent reason. A couple of times I've "sensed" police at corners and haven't seen them, but when I pass the corner, there one is. Sometimes things just sort of "pop" into my head, which to me is the brain function. But just before it got there, there must have been some signal or something. Sometimes, its something just old, but sometimes its like getting a communication from a distance without the phone. Sometimes I have difficulty figuring out which is which. K |
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All cognitive function is in the brain yes. All life, no. I think this is a good answer. The only question I have is - what about "perception"? Does one perceive from the brain or does one perceive outside of the body? K Where do things like "instinct" or maybe even some "psychic" ability come into play? Is that all in the brain too? Candace Pert (who was featured in What The Bleep Do We Know) has a book called Molecules of Emotion where she says she found that the brain has transmittors and receivers like a two way radio. You think our brains really have the power to transmit to far away places? K |
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All cognitive function is in the brain yes. All life, no. I think this is a good answer. The only question I have is - what about "perception"? Does one perceive from the brain or does one perceive outside of the body? K |
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Jaynes postulates that the side of the brain is the original "g-d" where language and creativity reside. We would be differiantated within ourselves. Understood. But what happens when you want to communicate with someone else? Would one take that differentiation and then project it to others? What if one didn't have that differentiation? K |
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Hey you! No, not you, you Yea - but "you" is still a "someone". And hey "not you", but "you", then describes someone else. Just because there's only one label (you) doesn't mean there's still not some sort of identity. K |
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We would cease to exist...the ego would collapse, without the ego we have no super-ego...without an ego we have nothing. You mean there would be no bodies or nothing at all? |
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One side of the brain will talk to the other and tell us how to act and what to do; we probably would appear slightly odd but not that much different than people today. Would we become robots? K |
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Yes, it really is all in our head. For example, if we happen to get into an accident and get brain damage, we are never the same person again. Then that leads me into the question of why some people are able to see and communication with "the dead" (so to speak). The so called "dead" don't have heads. Do you think its all made up? K |
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from what i see the media and society sets the rules,standards,and actions of most people MOB RULES THE MIND Well, maybe, if you sit and watch all that stuff. But I suppose to get along one has to have some sort of "cultural" savvy. I meant "control" as in function, not domination and World Gov. :). K |
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The voices in my head tell me what to do At least you'll never be lonely I wonder where all those voice sit? Is it real or is it Memorex :). K |
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If you watch "The Secret", it's ALL about that stuff. What's your opinion about "all that stuff" :). Kozee |
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Hi -
I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee |
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Sure we can, read Julian Jaynes' the Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the BiCarmeral Mind. I'd rather just discuss it in your own words because most likely I'm not going to get the book right away. What would it be like without identities? Kozee |
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Could we even imagine ourself without any identities? Who are you? Oh wait, I don't know, so the answer must be yes. What do you think it would be like to be without identities? K |
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