and apparently she has good cause to be concerned about this from what you stated in the OP.

I know I would not date someone with your attitude abour cheating, but apparently she's willing to give you a chance. perhaps if you can keep you zipper up while you are gone she will feel that she's found someone worthy to take into her parents home.

she may be avoiding taking you to see her folks until she's sure you are worth it (with respect to RESPECT). ya never know, her parents may be discouraging her from seeing you. which after reading the OP, I would certainly discourage my daughter from seeing you. feeling unappreciated is no excuse for cheating. that's pretty immature, really.

To me, that's the first issue to resolve. you can't blame your willingness to cheat on how she treats you. you have to make the decision that you are not the kind of person who will behave that way irrespective of what anyone else is doing....jmho

good luck and chin up..all in all I am betting you are a good person at heart :)

Look, I don't know this girl and we can only go on what you say about her and it seems to me that a lot of what you do say about her is said in anger. If you say that when you see each other she's all over you and tells you that she loves you that's good if she isn't just playing you. It's not necessarily a bad thing that she hasn't told her parents. She probably slagged you off to them when you broke up with her before and they are going to have a low opinion of anyone that they think hurt their little girl and they would take sides and tell her not to get back with you I guess.

If you're going on a lads holiday and she doesn't trust you though that's her problem. Could be that she cheated on you and thinks that you would do the same to her.

Like I said to you before, it's entirely up to you if you think that this girl is worth fighting for but even if you aren't going to tell her that she's the one that has to change, you need to talk to her properly and not just let her emotionally blackmail you, or be all over you every time you see each other instead of sitting down and talking properly before you do that. I never have girlfriends getting jealous like that with me. With me it's the opposite and they tell me that I'm the one that wants to get too serious. Personally, I think that's a load of bollocks and it's just that they lead me on and run away when it gets too real for them.

The thing is, women tend to like romance and they will tell you that they want you to be romantic and to make them feel special but a lot of them are not too big on commitment when it comes down to it. Just be careful that she doesn't play you because she may be all over you and telling you that she loves you but she may not really know what she wants and I do think that from what you've said about her, she cares a bit too much about what her friends or family think.

As I recall, you did actually like the advice that I gave you the last time that you posted about this girl, so here goes.

I've been in a similar situation with an ex that didn't introduce me to her family and didn't exactly shout it from the rooftops that we were together. It hurts. I've talked to her since and she said that she was like that because she couldn't see a future in it. Could be the same with your girl and if I recall, this was the one that didn't mind other guys coming on to her and asking her for blowjobs.

It's a bit like trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted but it really doesn't sound as if this girl wants to get as serious as you do and if you get too wrapped up in her she's likely to break your heart. Go with the other girls I say. Why the f**k not? You're a really young guy and this girl isn't making you happy. She may do if she ever gets her act together but a relationship won't work when only one of you really wants it to and is trying to make it work.

Stop thinking about it as such a big serious thing. You have years to find someone that's right for you and that doesn't mean that you can't keep seeing her. Just means that you shouldn't put up with being treated badly and you've got to lay it on the line to her. Say that you love her but you don't like the way that it's been going and things have got to change. Yes folks, that's right, I said the C word. Shoot me.

Which is exactly why I was hesitant to give you any advice, you're not willing to listen. "Abusive is totally the wrong word." What word would you use for someone treating you like ****? "I believe she really does love me." Based on what? Nothing you've told us about this woman leads me to believe she loves you or anyone else. She sounds selfish and manipulative.

You're making excuses for this person, which is what abused people do. After a while, you can no longer blame the other person for their actions, when you keep putting up with it and making excuses for them. Like I said, I don't know why you keep asking for advice, you're not going to listen; you want this woman, for whatever reason, and she knows it. That's why she treats you this way. She knows that no matter what she does to you, you're going to take it.

When you decide to value yourself over her, that's when you'll accept that she is abusing you and you'll stop putting up with it. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do for you. We can "advise" you until we're blue in the face, but you are unwilling to see her for what she is.

I'm off this thread, I get frustrated when people are willing to let other people hurt them, in the name of "love." Love doesn't hurt. Ever.

That's all I'm saying. Good luck to you. I'm out.

Based on what you've told us about this situation, I wouldn't even be talking to her. She doesn't sound trustworthy. She doesn't sound mature. She sounds like she's playing games. And you're letting her do this. You're letting your feelings about her cloud your judgement. When someone loves you they don't treat you like ****, and if they do, they apologize, make amends, and stop the shitty behavior.

There is no way in the hell I'd be willing to be anyone's secret. If she wants to date you or whatever, she should be woman enough to admit it to whoever asks and stand by her decision. What she's saying is, the opinion of her parents means more to her than her relationship with you, whatever that even is, whether you're just friends, or getting back together.

I wouldn't put up with that. Children value their parent's opinions about what they do, not adults. I would walk away from her, and on my way out of the door, I'd tell her when she's ready to be an adult, when she knows exactly what she wants, and when she's ready to treat me like she'd want to be treated, with dignity and respect, to give me a call. Until then, I'd tell her to leave me the **** alone.

But that's just me.

Sounds like you are in a chronically abusive relationship. If you stay in it you will have a really miserable life. Drop this like a hot rock, get in a group of healthy young people and it will be easier not to get lonely and get sucked back into this.

Not just the men.. Where are all the decent ppl in the world GONE!?