Wasn't intending it that way. My Brit friends all call themselves Limey Bastards, so take what you will.

hahaha. Ironic considering McCain provided no facts what-so-ever during his campaign regarding any of Obama's policies.

Or that whole "war over WMD's" when there were no facts.

Also, I'm not a liberal.

I corrected myself, sorry.

How is that less American than sending our servicemen to die for no reason? Or dismantling our Constitution and Bill of Rights?

Or just saying you don't support the President? Right wing people seem to forget it works both ways.

Whoops, my bad. Incorrect aside from when Under God went in. Sorry.

Ah, sorry. Didn't realize you were a limey. It's mostly the "We can call you a traitor because we're real Americans, but we can bad mouth the President without being traitors because...." and the lack of logic past that.

Riiiight...

Your logic fails on the "We did it but we don't want you to do it cuz when we did it it was right but now you're wrong."

Yep. And "my people" (seriously?) were called traitors and unAmerican for it.

What's the difference?

So why did the right call everyone that didn't support Bush or his wars in the Middle East traitors and unAmerican?

Awesome. I guess not. Please refrain from posting in this thread since you obviously won't add anything relevant or useful.

So I take it you disagree? Can you provide any reasoning aside from a stupid emoticon?

To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.

I think he's referring to the fact that people would vote for McCain instead of Obama purely because Obama is black.

Why wouldn't they be honest on their deathbed? And if they weren't being truthful, would you really call them on it? I mean, they're dying. That's just harsh. Dying and getting picked on.

Nah, it was Obama with the future plan. One good idea is pulling out of Iraq in the next two years, as opposed to McCain who did not want to set a date (or, more probable, pull out) and end the war. We're spending twelve billion dollars a month there, which actually comes out to five thousand dollars per second.

There really isn't a set way to make a plan like that, otherwise it would have been done in any presidency previous.

Well, aside from any of the Bush family terms...

How can you fault Obama for moderators asking soft questions? At least he stayed on topic.

Despite being twenty years in debt, Obama was speaking ten years in the future. Might not be twenty, but he is looking forward. Are you expecting anyone to have a plan to solve twenty years of debt over four years? That's a bit unrealistic.

Also, McCain mentioned nothing about economics aside from the fact that he is very forthcoming about not understanding it in the slightest.

This is some rough grammar. Forgive me if I miss a point or two. Obama is in no way, shape or form a socialist. If you're looking at it that way, the Bush tax credit was socialism. He was redistributing the wealth.

What happened with the redistribution to keep banks afloat was fascism, not socialism. Socialism would actually have the money coming down to the common man, not just the banks and executives themselves.

Saying that Obama will hurt the economy and send jobs overseas is just ridiculous. That's been happening for the past eight years already. We've seen more tax cuts for big business than anything else. He stated outright that small business will get tax credits to offset this. Why is it wrong to tax a company like Shell or Enron (ha) or Exxon or IBM more money instead of giving executives million dollar bonuses?

The socialism call is really uneducated. Ideas that Obama espouses are far from socialism, to the point where I am starting to believe that those who claim he's a socialist don't even know what it means.

Also, please, spell check. For the love of all that is good and holy, spell check. There is a place, their is possessive, they're is a contraction for they are.

I think Obama actually stayed on topic with real issues during all the debates. Can you point to anything specific?

Everyone lamenting Obama's victory...Are you upset at the actual beliefs and ideas that he stands for or the fact that an African-American is now in office? I am asking this in all seriousness, I am not (NOT) attempting to start a racial debate. I know that might be strange given the question, but I don't think it's a completely racial issue. I am looking for actual policy issues (not taken from attack ads, but actual policy planned out) that actually make more sense from the McCain camp.