Discussing it would also educate the people. I think that would be more important.

I know that! A man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle.

Did they die from eating poison mushrooms or a cracked skull?

I thought that was a bit strange also. I wonder why the thread was deleted.

You too! Happy New Year

God made Heaven and earth and man and then he rested. Then he made woman. Since then, neither God nor man has rested!

I think we need to define "saved". I don't think anybody is "saved" or safe until after the first resurrection. The first resurrection is when Christ comes back to earth and sets up his government. Being baptized and such does not automatically save anybody. You are still subject to your own will and have to fight it everyday. The goal is to have the "mind of Christ". It is not an easy road, where you can just lay back and relax because you are "saved"

I think that train of thought goes against the teachings of Christianity. The key words here "self control". It is up to a man to control himself. A woman's beauty is no excuse for bad behavior.

Galatians 5:22-23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand.

David, What do you base this statement on?
Where is the word "Trinity" in the new testament, or anywhere else in the Bible?

Perhaps the most momentous conversion in Western history was that of Constantine I, Roman Emperor and later proclaimed a Christian Saint. While his belief in Christianity occurred long before his death, it was only on his deathbed that he was baptised, in 337. While traditional sources disagree as to why this happened so late, modern historiography concludes[citation needed] that Constantine chose religious tolerance as an instrument to bolster his reign. His edict of toleration, subsequent patronage of the Christian church, even his convening of and presiding over the First Ecumenical Council of Nicaea, were all carried out while he was still officially a pagan, and while he bore the pagan office of pontifex maximus.

Hello Sheik
Are there any scriptures in the bible that give you this idea. what I read makes me think the covering is long hair, not a veil or a bonnet.

We all have the same basic emotions, but not the same thoughts. No two people think exactly the same about every subject.

1 Corinthians

12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.



We are all different and thank God for that. What a boring world if we were all the same. We should celebrate our differences not try to force our views on others.

History[edit]

The first recorded instance of veiling for women is recorded in an Assyrian legal text from the 13th century BC, which restricted its use to noble women and forbade prostitutes and common women from adopting it.[4] The Mycenaean Greek term 𐀀𐀢𐀒𐀺𐀒, a-pu-ko-wo-ko, possibly meaning "headband makers" or "craftsmen of horse veil", and written in Linear B syllabic script, is also attested since ca. 1300 BC.[5][6] In ancient Greek the word for veil was καλύπτρα (kalyptra; Ionic Greek: καλύπτρη, kalyptrē; from the verb καλύπτω, kalyptō, "I cover")[7] and is first attested in the works of Homer.[8]

I think it is just another man made tradition, nothing Biblical about it.

There is a picture of "Bust of Titus" on the net. It is supposed to be from that era. I imagine that would be a typical hairstyle.

1 Corinthians 11
10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[ head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.
13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16 If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.

1 Corinthians 11:3-5
3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved.




Is the covering a hat or veil? The covering spoken of is hair. Men should have short hair and women should have long hair.

The Divine Plan I believe in was given to the Israelites in the form of Annual Holy Days to be observed.
They explain the series of events this era of creation is going to go through. These Biblical Holy Days sound pretty strange to most people who celebrate Pagan Days instead.