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Billy, if you're really that interested in comparing something I will email what what I have personally tried. I don't feel comfortable posting all my personal medical information here. aw c'mon BB - whats a little horse, weed, morphine, cocaine, meth, upers/downers among freinds - huh? 
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mello cups...mmmmm ?? is that mello cups? i thought it was "mallow" cups?? |
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Tribo, I never once said that someone could go to heaven based on works. Neither did the Catholic church. I was clear on that matter. It is the condition of the person's heart, not their actions that determines their salvation. The same is true of Christians and non-Christians. That's what the Bible says and at least 50% of the Christian world agrees with that.
are you sure it's not 49% or 51% meaningless numbers unsupported by you another false statement and still means nothing as to whether anyone outside of those jesus says will go to hell is true. I think you are needlessly rude. You are the swine or dog described in Matthew 7:6. I have been polite and offered you reasoned arguments and scripture and you have rejected them out of hand and accused me of lying and having an agenda. You should be ashamed of your behavior. You probably are, but can't get over your pride enough to say so. But because I believe know that in your heart you want to apologize, but you can't overcome your pride and your shame at admitting you are wrong, I will assume you have apologized and moved on.
when i feel it's necessary to apologize i have always done so without solicitation from someone to do so by trying to make me feel unwarranted remorse of some kind spider - your wrong and your sources are wrong, you live with that - i dont have to.
Enjoy your weekend. 1) nazi demon from hell 2) stealer of childrens souls 3) godless A**hole 4) hellish troll 5) and now - swine/dog gee thnx spider, you just made my day -  |
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Midnight milkyways [dark choclate coating] ummm!
any dark chocolate - absolute favorite? dove rasberry chocolate squares with liquid carmel ceter - heaven only have one left for christmas - hahaha |
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the old testament people were saved by their faith in god - who is god?? father - SON - HS. they knew him as the christ, not as jesus, therfore they entered heaven because of this. christ=jesus [or any other name used for him then].
No, Jesus didn't say that. He said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.". You are quoting Acts 4:12 "There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved".
But that doesn't change what I have said. I don't believe that Jesus' name is a magic word. Therefore, name must mean something else, right? semantics- bottom line is there is no way to come to heaven but through Christ - period[excluding those who do not have the wherewithal to do so - children, handicapped etc.] Yes. Now how encompassing that belief is, I can't say. But Abraham didn't know Jesus, but he was saved. Knowing the name isn't necessary. The criteria aren't laid out in detail in the Bible. The surest way to heaven is by accepting Jesus. The other way might lead to heaven, but probably leads to hell. I can't say, I'm not the judge. But the Bible leaves plenty of possibility that people can go to heaven regardless of their religion.
it leaves NO possibility!! whether its by the name of Jesus/Christ/savior/ or the myriad of other names OT or NT- it is the same personage!! the SON of god!! the NT Jesus!! if Jesus is "THE ONLY WAY" and he himself states this to be so - then what hope is there for those who don't? Paul's words? there not even clear on this - Jesus WAS!! believe and live in heaven - don't and die and be in hell. pretty cut and dry. Right, Jesus said he is the only way. But would he accept someone who was spiritually blind? Yes, he said so himself. "If you were blind, you would be without sin" Is it possible that a person who isn't spiritually blind could go to heaven, without accepting Jesus? It's possible, but that's for God to judge. Obviously God knows that not many can do that, so he died for our sins.
does it not say that Christ died for "EVERYONES SINS"? that it is a matter of accepting him for salvation and heaven? you make no point here at all. QUOTE: your holding out false hope for your own agendas to those who do not believe this. you may think its true - but it is not. its excruciatingly plain to anyone who reads what the choice is. There are many Christians who hold to this belief. Pastors on a Christian radio program (To Every Man An Answer) have verbalize the same belief. The pastors at STR (Stands To Reason) ministries have also suggested that a non-Christian who has never heard of Jesus could go to heaven. We aren't lying, the Bible does suggest this. Jesus assured the people that if they were blind they would be without sin.
read further down on this point tribo: QUOTE: yet you would have others believe if they lead a good life their is hope. you go against the very foundation of Christianity spider, that which you claim to follow and believe. No, it doesn't. Paul was a pillar in the Church. Jesus is the foundation of the church. Both suggested that some non-Christians would be saved. I don't know how many and I don't know that you can be saved by your actions, it is the condition of your heart. I imagine it will be rare for a non-Christian to go to heaven, but it will be fairly uncommon for a Christian to go to heaven also.
You are listening and quoting those who want to further their own agendas of peace between all mankind just like the catholics did for centuries, bring em in however you can mentality. tell them there's hope but yours is a better way? not buying it. its evil!! What I have said is supported by many Christians.
AGGENDIST!! "5. The non-Christian may not be blamed for his ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he follows the commands of his conscience, for through this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church."
So let's see...there are around a billion Catholics in the world, so tell me Tribo, where do you get off saying that they are all going against their religion? Isn't it true that it is YOU who is wrong? You who are twisting the scriptures to support your bigoted, biased and closed minded view of Christianity? as i say AGENDIST principles. sat whatever is necessary to make your point based not on the book but those preachers/priest/others who you choose to believe and push forward there statements to comfort yourselves with. i have a bridge i'd like to sell you - interested?? no I'm sure your not - it would not me your agenda. |
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Tribo...about children going to heaven.... Children are NOT old enough to understand sin. Jesus said the Holy Spirit would convict the world of sin, righteousness and the judgment to come. Meaning .... people must be capable of being convicted of their sins by the Holy Spirit ,before they can accept Jesus. A child can't understand yet . When King David's child became very ill, King David fasted and prayed to God for his son to live, but his son died. Then, this is when David said about his son who died, "I Will GO TO HIM, but he will not return to me" (II Samuel 12:23). 
thnx for that my lady. |
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tribo, that's terrible!!!! 
I am so grateful to be living in wilderness australia... We suppliment our groceries with fresh veges, herbs and eggs, from our backyard...all organic, all heirloom seeds.... we barter food when in excess with others... we can walk down the street and pick fruit in the height of summer...(mangoes, avocados, bananas, coconuts) we have an abundance of fresh fish and shell fish at the front door..(the Coral sea), for those who are that way inclined... our water is supplimented by rainwater tanks, our water heated by the sun, our electricity supplimented by solar panels... I could not live where some corporate greed decided how I must live.. 
and so it used to be here also jess, minus the solar panels when i was growing up.we had little but honestly were happier then. my neice is getting married next month - she knowws how to boil water and stick things in the microwave to eat. and can make instant macaroni and cheese and popcorn - how will she survive when her husband wants a real meal - go out all the time? i really feel for both this generation and the coming ones. So why not find some of that illusionary stuff called time, and see about accessing a community space and teach young people some of these skills? One person can make a massive difference... we started with a group of like minded people just jammin' with music, and drew young people in... we now have a food co -op, and are starting a community garden here... we bullied for the space, we beseeched ministers - (government ones) for an ear, and some support... one person can make a vast difference, if the heart is willing.. how's that for new age? 
i will son be retiring to the philippines Jess i may do it there, but it's a great idea - i am a musician so it fits and they will need some of this knowledge there also - though fortunately many still do these things seeing its a poor country - there is no laws saying you cant raise crops or food on your property there s most do to some extent accept for the bigger cities which is not as good though a myriad of food stands are there with fresh foods of all kinds. thanks for that though - maybe MM or others will take up the banner on this who plan on remaining here. -
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GNU WAGE !!
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It is the pendulum swinging ... it is the journey ... it is only by going too far that we know how far we can go ... and then the pendulum swings back the other way ... We live in a world of duality so we must experience both ... and perhaps with each swinging, we get a little closer to who we really are. As for technology ... I think it has done some wonderful things ... we have more time to experience life and contemplate ... we have access to people and information like never before ... ...and like all things in a dualistic existence, we have the shadow side of technology used for destruction and oppression ... Are we advancing ... when we stop looking outside of ourselves for answers which come from within ourselves then perhaps we will find harmony ... What's the point? Cuz we can!
ART: Are we advancing ... when we stop looking outside of ourselves for answers which come from within ourselves then perhaps we will find harmony ...
What's the point? Cuz we can! we may find harmony with ourselves singularly, but not as a whole. mans morality for lack of a better word has not changed since the beginning of recorded history and i doubt before. if harmony is individual or only for a modest amount of mankind - what good will be gained by all? we have seen such throughout history have we not? yet over-all we remain the same core humanity we have always been, you speak from an idealistic point of view - one i wish were true in life, but as you can see and read is not, for those of us that may see what you say, i agree - but it does not change the rest of mankind. unfortunately. |
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Hmmmmm I don't see circular.... only when looking down from above.... what I see is a spiralling upwards... it feels we are returning to the same place.... but no... it is around and above where we have already been... that's learning, that's growing, that's expanding....I see spirals where others see circles.
Spirals?? hmmm? spirals are just circles attached together - like the slinkey toy - 
when you reach the top circle you can [if you desire] turn it over and the top circle becomes the bottom one. you have gained nothing but a continous cycle my lady, mankind remains inwordly the same.
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Yet if a child molester or a rapist suddenly "finds Jesus" in prison, he goes directly to heaven, yet the 15 year old innocent victim he raped and murdered who happened to be a Muslim? What is to become of her? Appeal to Emotion Fallacy. 1) If the Child molester or rapist is saved, then yes he is saved. That's how it works. All sin is wrong in God's eyes, but Jesus has already paid the price for our sins. You can condemn yourself to hell for lying, lusting or raping, any sin is a slip from perfection and therefore a reason to be condemned. 2) The hypothetical Muslim girl...I don't know. I'm not God, I cannot judge if someone will go to heaven or hell. It's an appeal to emotion because rather than using argumentation to prove your point, you are simply making a sad scenario in an attempt to disprove Christianity or prove it to be unfair. Christians believe that all are sinners, so I cannot pretend to be better than anyone. I'm not going to heaven because of anything I have done or not done, other than accepting Jesus as my savior. Christians don't automatically assume that all non-Christians are going to hell. Some are and some aren't, it's not for me to judge who is and isn't. So while I would mourn for the girl, I wouldn't think to guess where her soul would end up. BS spidey!! thats the biggest cop out yet!! the bible clearly states if you dont accept jesus as YOUR personal savior - you will not go to heaven!! so if the non beleiveing muslim girl did not accept christ, then where is she?? in purgatory? sheol? gahenna? hades? hell? bottom line is your playing the christian fool here in making it sound like "you dont know" it is explicitly stated what will happen to the muslim or any pagan who does not accept christ - talk about not being honest - thats crap spidey!! Children go straight to heaven......simply because they are not held accountable. God is a merciful God ..and knows a child is too young yet to understand, and thus is not able to make a willing decision one way or another about Christ....and some aren't even born yet. The only way anyone doesn't get to heaven ,is by simply rejecting Jesus. But a child is too young to understand and is therefore NOT held accountable.
i understand that's a concept - where is it stated as such in the book? when Jesus talks of this he is merely making a statement that those who will be like little children he does not infer that little children go to heaven? I as you would like to think such but show me where it unequivicably states this please?? |
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tribo, that's terrible!!!!
I am so grateful to be living in wilderness australia... We suppliment our groceries with fresh veges, herbs and eggs, from our backyard...all organic, all heirloom seeds.... we barter food when in excess with others... we can walk down the street and pick fruit in the height of summer...(mangoes, avocados, bananas, coconuts) we have an abundance of fresh fish and shell fish at the front door..(the Coral sea), for those who are that way inclined... our water is supplimented by rainwater tanks, our water heated by the sun, our electricity supplimented by solar panels... I could not live where some corporate greed decided how I must live..
and so it used to be here also jess, minus the solar panels when i was growing up.we had little but honestly were happier then. my neice is getting married next month - she knowws how to boil water and stick things in the microwave to eat. and can make instant macaroni and cheese and popcorn - how will she survive when her husband wants a real meal - go out all the time? i really feel for both this generation and the coming ones. |
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BS spidey!! that's the biggest cop out yet!! the bible clearly states if you don't accept Jesus as YOUR personal savior - you will not go to heaven!! so if the non believing Muslim girl did not accept Christ, then where is she?? in purgatory? Sheol? Gehenna? hades? hell? bottom line is your playing the christian fool here in making it sound like "you don't know" it is explicitly stated what will happen to the Muslim or any pagan who does not accept Christ - talk about not being honest - that's crap spidey!! There is no such thing as purgatory. Romans 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; Gentiles are a law unto themselves. John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you are saying, 'We see,' so your sin remains. I don't know the hypothetical girls heart. I don't know if she was aware of her sins or if she repented of her sins. That's God's place to judge and not mine. I was completely honest and what I said has now been supported by scripture. I except an apology from you for implying that I was being dishonest. nice try no gold ring!! go buy Jesus words!! can a person go to heaven any other way than by accepting JESUS CHRIST according to the book?? NO!!! so if you hold this true, then if she did not accept him she is not in heaven - leaving the other choices i outlined minus purgatory if you don't hold to that the rest = hell/separation from the god and his heavenly host. I'll accept your apology when your ready! The second quote is from Jesus. John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you are saying, 'We see,' so your sin remains. He is speaking of spiritual blindness, which is a condition that we all live in during the early years of our life. For the Christian, the entire Bible is the word of God. So while the words of Jesus hold a special significance to the Christian, the words of Paul, Peter, John and the other authors of both the New and Old Testament are also truthful and useful in teaching and moral guidance. Edit: Your objection that I must use "the words of Jesus" is without merit in any Biblical theological discussion. No reputable theologian would say "Well if Jesus didn't say it, I'm going to ignore it". So my first quote stands Romans 2:14-15 is equally valid as any other scripture. My objection???? did Christ not say - there is no other name under heaven that which you can be saved than the name of JESUS?? that's the cornerstone of Christianity spidey!! there is "NO OTHER NAME" under heaven by which you can be saved!! you may quote from any other sources in the book you care to, but to state that Paul's words have more worth than Jesus' is foolish. your trying to be a papal politician so as to not offend others and in doing so show yourself to be just that!! according to your book there "IS NO OTHER WAY" to get to heaven than by/through Christ!! so how is a Muslim/Buddhist/Taoist/or believer in Krishna or others supposed to get there then? Questions: 1) can anyone who does not believe that Jesus is lord/god and died for their sins and accept him into their hearts as lord and savior enter heaven? 2) can being good or religious or faithful to anyone but Jesus get you into heaven? if the answers are "NO" then how can you say that you don't know?? if Jesus is "THE ONLY WAY" and he himself states this to be so - then what hope is there for those who don't? Paul's words? there not even clear on this - Jesus WAS!! believe and live in heaven - don't and die and be in hell. pretty cut and dry. your holding out false hope for your own agendas to those who do not believe this. you may think its true - but it is not. its excruciatingly plain to anyone who reads what the choice is. yet you would have others believe if they lead a good life their is hope. you go against the very foundation of Christianity spider, that which you claim to follow and believe. Romans 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; this is a perfect example Paul is talking of how the gentiles can come to Jesus being convicted by their hearts of the laws gos put forth. again it does not mean they will be saved by any other means than Christ!! if my words offend you they should - you are preaching against your own beliefs that can be seen by anyone who reads the words. your setting up your own foundation for what is said instead of following what is stated clearly!! you are either doing this in ignorance or in blatant dis-reguard for your own capacity to understand as you deem responsible. get off your paper pulpit and go pray spider and ask forgiveness from your god. you have undermined the very foundation of your own faith by trying to make others believe a lie. |
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BS spidey!! thats the biggest cop out yet!! the bible clearly states if you dont accept jesus as YOUR personal savior - you will not go to heaven!! so if the non beleiveing muslim girl did not accept christ, then where is she?? in purgatory? sheol? gahenna? hades? hell? bottom line is your playing the christian fool here in making it sound like "you dont know" it is explicitly stated what will happen to the muslim or any pagan who does not accept christ - talk about not being honest - thats crap spidey!! There is no such thing as purgatory. Romans 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; Gentiles are a law unto themselves. John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you are saying, 'We see,' so your sin remains. I don't know the hypothetical girls heart. I don't know if she was aware of her sins or if she repented of her sins. That's God's place to judge and not mine. I was completely honest and what I said has now been supported by scripture. I except an apology from you for implying that I was being dishonest. nice try no gold ring!! go buy jesus words!! can a person go to heaven any other way than by accepting JESUS CHRIST according to the book?? NO!!! so if you hold this true, then if she did not accept him she is not in heaven - leaving the other choices i outlined minus pergatory if you dont hold to that the rest = hell/seperation from the god and his heavenly host. i'll accept your apology when your ready! |
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Tribo, I too feel sorrow fro the younger generation. I wish there was some way of getting the money mongers to understand what they have done and be willing to step up to the plate with their vast amounts of wealth to turn things around. There might be a solution if enough people would just absolutly refuse to surport these self indulgent yeahoos buy not purchising bigger better faster crap evrytime they get a few bucks saved up, and start buying land that is farmable and using it accordingly. A person really can use the bathroom out in the wilderness if they want to. It's gotten so bad MM, that even most towns will no longer alow you to grow food in your own back yard anymore like where i'm at [farm country!!] and few no how to milk a cow or can there vegtables, or how to sew or many times even cook [things from scratch] imagine bringing home in todays world, a whole chiken or pig or cow and asking someont to butcher it and prepare it and preserve the rest?? who knows how in todays USA especially. we no longer have a willingness to learn these things and will be evermore dependant on the government and industry for such in the future. i feel it's almost to late to wake this country up - obama or not - we have dug our own grave and have no one really to blame but ourselves, we allowed others to rule over us and make decisions that has brought us to this point instead of speaking up as "we the people" to put a stop to the greed and power hungry politicians and mercantile industralist. god help the children of the future. |
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Yet if a child molester or a rapist suddenly "finds Jesus" in prison, he goes directly to heaven, yet the 15 year old innocent victim he raped and murdered who happened to be a Muslim? What is to become of her? Appeal to Emotion Fallacy. 1) If the Child molester or rapist is saved, then yes he is saved. That's how it works. All sin is wrong in God's eyes, but Jesus has already paid the price for our sins. You can condemn yourself to hell for lying, lusting or raping, any sin is a slip from perfection and therefore a reason to be condemned. 2) The hypothetical Muslim girl...I don't know. I'm not God, I cannot judge if someone will go to heaven or hell. It's an appeal to emotion because rather than using argumentation to prove your point, you are simply making a sad scenario in an attempt to disprove Christianity or prove it to be unfair. Christians believe that all are sinners, so I cannot pretend to be better than anyone. I'm not going to heaven because of anything I have done or not done, other than accepting Jesus as my savior. Christians don't automatically assume that all non-Christians are going to hell. Some are and some aren't, it's not for me to judge who is and isn't. So while I would mourn for the girl, I wouldn't think to guess where her soul would end up. BS spidey!! thats the biggest cop out yet!! the bible clearly states if you dont accept jesus as YOUR personal savior - you will not go to heaven!! so if the non beleiveing muslim girl did not accept christ, then where is she?? in purgatory? sheol? gahenna? hades? hell? bottom line is your playing the christian fool here in making it sound like "you dont know" it is explicitly stated what will happen to the muslim or any pagan who does not accept christ - talk about not being honest - thats crap spidey!! |
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As most i believe that there is nothing new about new age, it is a dredging up of the past. I feel our whole existence is that way, one of circular events coming to light then disappearing for awhile only to be resurrected some time later on.
So can anybody show me over these many centuries of mans existence, what good this has done? what have we learned? does technology or industry show how we have progressed? are we not at our core the same as we have always been? has our thinking of good and evil/right or wrong - changed to make us better than we were at the beginning? Or are we forever caught in this circular existence to repeat these same things over and over ad infinitum?? Why - whats the point? what is the purpose of doing so? what is it we are supposed to finally achieve if anything? |
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Simplifying and downsizing are good stress relievers as well. tRuth is found by ommitting the "T" -
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Just curious if it has dawned on anyone out there if we quit consuming so much energy running around doing and buying things we don't need we will no longer have an energy crisis to try to solve. We have an abundance of energy enough to shelter and feed every living person on the planet. The problem lies in where people run around doing all sorts of extra crap they don't really need to do. of course i have MM, as i'm sure many others close to my age who have lived a simpler life have also. the prob is this, we have allowed the government and big business and technology to dominate our lives[as im sure you well know] and like sheep have followed after or persued these things, we have left the city/towns and have moved further from one another and those stores that provide us with our needs and stopped raising our own foods and necessities and most don't even know how to any more, most think milk comes from a store not a cow. we have lost our ability to a very large degree to live on our own without all the trappings. I truly feel for the younger generations who are doomed to keep this type of civilization up and find themselves unable to someday cope with having to fend for themselves if all of these "conviences" dissappear. bot this is a topic for another post not here, so i will quitely stop now. |
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Do you take credit cards?
Ido, Ido, Ido, - just mail them to me and i will max them out in no time!!!!!!!!!
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"Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment" ~ Rumi
sounds like an advertisement for the stock market - 
where do you by bewilderment?? Costco? bewilderment R us? shouldn't that read - " Be-wilder-meant? I am a multi-level marketing distributor specializing in bewilderment .... I can sell you bewilderment at retail but if you'd like to pay a distributor fee then you can purchase bewilderment at wholesale yourself... and the compensation plan is amazing ... let me just have 2 hours of you time and I can show you how you can share the gift of bewilderment with others and make a fortune in the process ... and be-wilder-meant ... is a subsidiary of the same company ... 
and the compensation plan is amazing ... let me just have 2 hours of you time and I can show you how you can share the gift of bewilderment with others and make a fortune in the process ...
your married so i wont take you up on your offer - though I agree 2 hrs with you would definitely bewilder me -
subsi -dairy? is that an underwater cow farming endeavor?? 
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