is there nothing that exist then that is not a god?

You don't need quantum mechanics to know what can be readily seen Jellybean - all the stars in the sky - there are billions of light-waves / particles that we can easily sense. the so called vacuum of space only exist because as the electromagnetic particles were attracted to each other they in turn joined to make up the planets and stars and all else. as this continued, less matter between them increased the vacuum [less material],larger areas of space.This has been going on eternally, there is no beginning or end to vibrational material.

Hi Jellybean, i don't think anyone is god, i do think many people think there gods, but i won't mention any names, lol.

Hmmmm. then of course i would have to know your or others meanings or definitions as to what you mean by using the word god? but if it's like i remember your saying you are a "creator" Then no, huh uh, negative. :)

Yep

The Why of Life


Personal thoughts on the, who, where; what; and how existence carries on in an eternal manner.

From solid matter to liquids and gas, as well as any others, one thing we find is the evidence they all vibrate. Though this has not always been possible to investigate or know till present times, that is, within my lifetime, with that evidence one can at least ponder upon its universal implications as to why, what we are able to experience, is the way it is.
For example, let us take wind and our sense of touch. On a purely calm day where no air movement is present and your sitting in a chair, your bodily sense of touch does not feel anything, there is no sensory indication that informs you of any air, yet of course it is there, just not felt. One could argue that it could be felt just by the action of breathing it in and out of course, but that requires the act of doing so. In this scenario for discussion we will leave such out, even though it does hold true, for it is only a precursor to what lies ahead as to my purposes for writing of this.
What is being said for understanding is that our limited senses are both a curse and a gift as to our understanding of life and the universe[s] that surround or engulf us.
It is my present holding of some time now that all things exist and always have existed due to vibratory matter no matter how large or infinitely small. Because of this, life as we know it or as it has always existed before us or will after us, is that which is eternal. In that summation we have all the phenomena that we either know or do not know or have or have not personally experienced. And to me is the only viable explanation for life here or anywhere else.
Our mental training over our lives in religiosity may initially be offended by this seeing that a “creator,” some ethereal being, with both intelligence, power, wisdom, etc., similar to ours but on an infinitely massive scale, higher than ours has brought both our existence and all else about through his/her/it’s, powers. But I read and believe these systems of beliefs, that is pre-history, developed to maintain control of the tribes of people under their influences and no more.
God’s that war and destroy and threaten, even if they Have moments of love or compassion as written about are man’s creation, not the actual work of a god. Proof? I have yet to encounter one religion that does not have as a basis a punishment reward system of one type or another, nor does not have a good versus evil that are put into place by which one’s life and actions are to be judged by. “We” have made our god’s like us, not the other way around.
For this is what we know – ourselves, how can we then think past that which we know in terms of what god’s may be or act like? We had no choice but to exemplify our god’s in ways we could relate to, and that is exactly why we have the religious concepts we do. With this we have spent centuries enforcing these concepts till present, that they are a way of life for many who follow with the devoutness, [at least outwardly] that others expect from ones who follow the traditions of man’s own making.
But with present knowledge, one who studies and thinks beyond the entrapments of mythical teachings or even scientific theories, which are no more than educated guesses for the largest part, especially in the in realm of unknown experiential senses to go by, which is everything outside our sphere of existence here on this world and the little we have seen beyond, we have one thing we can know, and that is the existence of vibrational matter. No matter how densely accumulated or how sparse, it is everywhere and in everything, seen, or unseen. If there were a god, in the sense of our ancient and modern understandings, this would be what a creational force would really be.
I do not believe in an “expanding universe” or the theory of explosion or implosion that started all of which we visualize as the infinite realm that surround us, my common sense and core logic cannot agree with such for obvious reasons. The explosion theory [the big bang] cannot account for where all the material aka matter that we see came from to begin with. Something so large or so dense to have created what we see, not including what were are not able to see, would have had to have been so immense that it is beyond logic. Secondly, for it to have accumulated in such mass, would require it to have been present to begin with to have done such, for a singular collective source to do such would in turn mean that there would first have to be some magnetic force strong enough to pull all the elements together from the entire universe and or beyond to form such. Even if this were the case, the trillions of centuries needed to do so would have meant that absolutely nothing but pure vacuum would have existed throughout the remaining universe, how can an “explosion” take place in a pure vacuum? Well you say because the mass that exploded had within it the necessary oxygen atoms or other to do so, my question then is, why did it then just not ignite as the billions of stars/suns since that time have done? What makes this first and only mass, act differently than everything created by it since? Again if you believe it was caused by implosion then it should have turned into a black hole as stars do, or at least we think they do. We do not have firsthand knowledge of such, only the aftermath of what we believe to be the case.

As to The expanding universe, I think not also because I can see nothing but movement not expansion. The universal entities of space move but that does not indicate expansion, that cannot be proven at least a present. You cannot prove expansion unless you had knowledge of how big something was to begin with for comparison that is out of the realm of science to do so.
That then leaves us with vibrations in the form of matter and waves. The essence of all we know and see as far as the eye can take us and our senses can comprehend. If anything is “eternal” this indeed would be that which is so. If the question arises such as “where do vibrations come from?” The answer is simply they have no beginning or end. They also have no conscience, no emotions, and no concern as to what or where or how what is formed does so. They are merely the suppliers of the matter by which all has come about, they do not judge or expect anything from us or any other life-forms, nor do they care what or how we act or perform or whether we live or die or are happy or sad. They don’t think at all – that is not there purpose, they are generators/suppliers, entities only in the respect of giving forth that which we see and comprehend.
With this comes something tangible as compared to talking of mythical beings and their related stories bound up in sacred bindings, it is not a matter of faith that one has to believe such as I state, we can detect vibrations and even see them with the aid of magnification and feel or sense them in other ways, such as colors.
They do exist, whether you believe or realize they do or not. And they do explain all that was, is, or ever shall be as to life, or any and all other phenomena, seen or unseen. In fact vibrations, in the form of matter and waves, are the only logical explanation for all we personally experience or know, either as a group or individually. Let us not in return try to turn them into some entity worthy of worship, I assure you, you will get no response in return. They will not respond to prayers or request.

LMAO, well.... looks like your in for an exciting year sin, good luck with that, lol.

ye seekers of truth, what truth do ye seek?

Does it last for awhile or or eternally speak,

if you've found such a thing, then please now do speak.

well.......... that answers everything i asked, lol

Electromagnetic radition.

Nothing does exist. I am proof of that!!

Hi jellybean, you know at one time i had interest in this but not much thought till i watched a movie and it had loads of info i had not really seen before here is the address, i think you will find it pretty amazing, i wasn't aware they had been going on for centuries in southern england, of course back then theyt thought the devil was diong them, lol.

http://www.1channel.ch/watch-1312503-Alien-Sign-The-Message

Hmm.. i must have read to quickly, sorry, what do you challenge and why? am i correct in thinking your a christian? why are you not then as a sighkik, forth telling the word of god to those who need to hear, or are you different than a profitt??

Proof of what claims? sodom and gamorah being individuals instead of cities?

Interesting, tell me something in the near future that is of large proportions that will come to pass please.

Yes but i have been to the center of my "bean", that has to count for something right? lol.Can a leopard change his spots? If i learn something "meaning" - full, like when i have eaten to much, does that count? If i'm "full" of **** does that count? Meaningful is an abstract concept, what is meaningful to you may not be to others. but then if i remember correctly,your pretty much into finding out the impossible for yourself correct? Impossible = truth, lol

No things changed, philippines is no longer in the plan unless my books sell.

Hi Sin, i even find myself at times not remebering things quite the way they realy happened when talking to others, that is what i mean ok? We "myth" represent and "myth" understand and "myth" construe a time moves on.history, even our own gets embellished, added onto, recollected differntly, i even see this with my 85 year old step mom. I dont correct her, i just agree and move on. But it is true that no history really is what happened just writings by those either present in some or one sense seeing it from thier perspective [one facet of what was actually happening] or gleaning the material from others transcrpits lateron who were also looking at if from thier own perspective, how many heros were there in rome or greece or elsewhere? we will never know, nor the real reasons behind any history.

If one were to believe in the two, then it is best decribed by others than those who have based the lies you propose since the times of Darby, you have been fed lies that still continue till present, all in the name of "evangelical" prechings and teachings.

I may even buy what you state if it were not for things 100 times worse in the god scenario, it is just to corrupted to save. even those who study the meanings of the supposed original text will say they really cant be sure of the words meaning in context.

Hogwash!!! We are at the center of our bieng pure selfishness, with that comes the inability for true change, meaning if and when circumstances arise that put us in a position to survive we will revert to our most basic instincts not caring what we do to stay alive. the onlt time this does or may not hold true is if we are putting our life at risk to save others we love more than ourselves. And even then it scares the proverbial myth of hell out of us.