From you comments, I can only assume 1 of 2 things.
1. You have never really read anything I have posted in this section, as I have mentioned several times that I am Atheist, in threads you have participated in. or. . .
2. You are going by that old saying:"There are no Atheists in Foxholes. If that is indeed what you are doing all I have to say is:

Well then why would you ask such a question? Never mind...I already answered it anyway..regardless of what you think. So that would answer your second question... it does not apply.


As far as my beliefs are concerned.

My second paragraph states that I don't him and I am sure he isn't like these people. Please Reread my comments.

I was simply making a suggestion because I don't see enough people in my area do this...

Bring others to Christ by example and only speak to those who are ready to listen. When you speak to people who aren't ready to listen or haven't seent he positive effects of living a life devoted to Christ it only pushes them further away from Christ.

I hope you see my comments weren't of anger or resentment but suggestion and hope that others may heed my suggestions because I have seen to many people refuse Christ because they don't see the positive effects of him only people preaching a life style they don't show themselves.

You don't like hillbillies!?

But I am one

Anyway, here is what i liked about Palin; She never tried to be anyone but herself during the campaign. McCain kept rolling over for whomever was talking to him, yet Palin stayed herself and if nobody liked it than screw em. I wish more people were like that

I am an extremely openminded Christian that was raised in the bible belt. My annoyance with Christians to demanding others to read or hear the word of Christ from those you don't even follow Christ's teaching.

I don't know you and I am sure you aren't one of these individuals but my theory is to lead others to Christ through example and actions rather than Gospel and preaching. Sometimes the time is right and sometimes it isn't right.

Presonally I think you will bring more to Christ be living a life devoted to him and only talking to those who truly want to listen. When you preach to a person not willing to hear you you are only pushing them further away from him or your spiritaul Beleifs.

Hence why I am so personal with my beleifs. Besides is extremely arrogant to to assume everyone will listen and be saved regardless if they can or not.

Be people to your faith through living your beleifs and speak with only those who are ready to listen. Just a suggestion!

Well, This "wimp" as you put it, has done a tour of duty in Afghanistan, at some points, being "outside the wire" multiple times a day.

Talk about Backfire, Quick...

Nothing bothers conservative Christians more than to have the tables turned or to have to take their own medicine they've dished out for decades. Truly, entertaining to see Christians whine about how the world is 'picking' on Christians!!!

Problem is Quick we are actually quite comfortable in our own skin, and you can't stand it, just doesn't fit that biblical conservative world view...

We are living in the world dictated by profit, debt, banks, resources.

I know many feels, how things are just don't make any sense, some of them go ruthlessly against common sense and justice.

No one else is behind all this, except what I said already. Profit, wealth, money, resources.
Truth shall be condenmed, round balls to be carried and square bricks to be rolled. Welcome to a world driven by profit and greed, and of course where things don't always make sense and if you try to pry it open, your hands shall be slapped, because you're ruining the profit.

So educate me then, what causes terrorism?

The nation was not literally set upon Christian principles either. Some Christian principles coincide with the nations base but not all. So that is a stretch also.

And for our nation to abide by Christian principles to make it "better" is a religious bias that seems to be allowed but it does not make it correct. Religion is not the moral compass for prosperity. It is a matter of personal beliefs that work for each person and they are all different.

My opinion here of course.

FORCING RULES over this abortion issue, isn't gonna make the sin problem go away...

or any other sin problem in this country, for that matter!!!

ONLY GOD IN OUR HEARTS......

WILL CAUSE US TO STOP SINNING AND DOING WRONG ....

NOT BEATING PEOPLE OVER THE HEAD WITH A LAW!!!

Otherwise, we would just become another "religious" country !!!

Only GOD in our hearts,will CHANGE a nation.....

not a law!!!!!!!!!!!

"IF My People......

Who are Called by My Name......

Should PRAY....

PRAY.....instead of POINTING FINGERS

and JUDGING OTHERS.....

maybe then the hearts of all people would STOP sinning....

because they would see the LOVE in Us....

NOT JUDGMENT....

and would WANT to TURN their hearts to GOD, too !!!

PRAY PEOPLE PRAY!!!!!!

And LOVE ONE ANOTHER!!

NOT JUDGE!!!

There is also no such thing as a country founded of Christian priciples that would ever be truely accepting and equitable to every other form of belief.

Actually I was quite shocked and taken aback when I realized this...

I'd never been around anyone who would expend so much time and energy bashing Christianity in particular.

It's been a real wake-up call.

The problem with prosecuting the Bush administration is that congress approved of his actions, including democrats in congress.

The Constitution requires that congress declare war, and that the president executes the war. The reasons for war are not important from a constitutional perspective.

Since we know that congress had access to the same intelligence that Bush had when making the decision to declare war, we know that the war was lawful.

If you want to argue that democrats in congress intentionally voted for a war that was immoral, then go complain to the democrats in congress that did so, and oppose them when they are running for office.

Well, this is without a doubt, a topic for with heavy moral and ethical considerations. All of you are no doubt familiar with the old hypothetical that goes something like:

"If your daughter was being held by a group of murderers and rapists and one of their co-conspirators was captured, would you be comfortable (relatively speaking) with the idea and practice of torture in order to obtain information about her location, possibly resulting in her life being saved?"

It is a hypothetical and as such, there are issues with it. It is the perfect scenario and here again, we are talking about someone captured who we have strong reason to believe knows enough to possibly spare her life.

What would you do? Would you, if this situation presented itself, allow for torture? If you are opposed to such treatment of people (on any and all grounds) would you be willing to run the risk of losing your daughter? Would you be able to handle looking in the mirror again, or looking at your wife, friends, family, etc...?

This isn't a "trick" question and to be honest, the moral and ethical ramifications are severe, leading me to question how I would react.

Still, I think it would be very hard for me to argue against any and all methods of information gathering, including torture. One could also argue a slightly different scenario: Let's say that my daughter (I don't have one but follow me here) was being held and YOU had to make the decision regarding how far to push the captured individual. You don't know me and you don't know my daughter. Would this change your mind or alter your willingness to apply such techniques?

It is a fascinating topic. I know that the answers are not easy and that even the questions are tough but sometimes it's good to apply a practical (if unlikely) situation out there for people to debate. And to that end, I hope that all of you will engage in such a debate.

Thanks for reading,
Drew

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