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Forces release of Bush Records!
By Hal Turner January 21, 2009 "Hal Turner Show" -- Washington, DC -- Barack Obama today revoked President George W. Bush's Executive Order which makes presidential records secret for up to 12 years after leaving office! This would be the first logical step for his Administration to take if they were/are considering going after Bush for criminal prosecution over. . . . . the fraud he perpetrated against the nation by lying to take us to war in Iraq. The very last section of Obama's Executive Order issued today (Here) states "Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked." This puts up for public consumption, most of the records from the Bush administration and I suspect those records will provide the legal basis for criminal prosecution of Bush and Cheney. George W. may want to jump on a plane and head to his family's 100,000 acre refuge in Paraguay so he can be safe from extradition! Personally, I would LOVE to see Bush criminally prosecuted and, if found guilty, hung by his neck just like Saddam Hussein. Executive Order 13233 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Executive Order 13233 limited access to the records of former United States Presidents. It was drafted by then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and issued by President George W. Bush on November 1, 2001. Section 13 of Order 13233 revoked Executive Order 12667 of January 18, 1989. The Order was partially struck down in October 2007, and President Barack Obama completely revoked it by executive order on January 21, 2009. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13233 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21816.htm |
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And lets add **** Cheney in there too, he is JUST as guilty!!!
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And lets add **** Cheney in there too, he is JUST as guilty!!! 
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You forget that the majority of our nation and the world support Bush in his decision to go after him. We are in Iraq for mutiple reason and we should all be ashamed even those who opposed it. Just to make sure we are on the same page... I NEVER VOTED FOR BUSH! I voted for Al Gore and Obama! I support Obama's decision and think that he is exactly what our country needs but don't forget we thought the same thing about Bush at the beginning. Each President faces a difficult road.
It took more than one person to get us in this mess and it will take more than one to get us out of it. I don't envy Bush for being on the most hated men in our world right now. His farewell from washington was something to admire for our nation and new president. Don't forget 911 and that our nation wanted action. We went after a ghost that should have been captured during his father's time but it wasn't accomplished. Saddam was an evil man. Judge others with the understanding you to will be judged! How dare you call for a Presidents blood! He served us! Don't forget he was doing something right to be elected twice into office. |
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You forget that the majority of our nation and the world support Bush in his decision to go after him. We are in Iraq for mutiple reason and we should all be ashamed even those who opposed it. Just to make sure we are on the same page... I NEVER VOTED FOR BUSH! I voted for Al Gore and Obama! I support Obama's decision and think that he is exactly what our country needs but don't forget we thought the same thing about Bush at the beginning. Each President faces a difficult road. It took more than one person to get us in this mess and it will take more than one to get us out of it. I don't envy Bush for being on the most hated men in our world right now. His farewell from washington was something to admire for our nation and new president. Don't forget 911 and that our nation wanted action. We went after a ghost that should have been captured during his father's time but it wasn't accomplished. Saddam was an evil man. Judge others with the understanding you to will be judged! How dare you call for a Presidents blood! He served us! Don't forget he was doing something right to be elected twice into office. |
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You forget that the majority of our nation and the world support Bush in his decision to go after him. We are in Iraq for mutiple reason and we should all be ashamed even those who opposed it. Just to make sure we are on the same page... I NEVER VOTED FOR BUSH! I voted for Al Gore and Obama! I support Obama's decision and think that he is exactly what our country needs but don't forget we thought the same thing about Bush at the beginning. Each President faces a difficult road. It took more than one person to get us in this mess and it will take more than one to get us out of it. I don't envy Bush for being on the most hated men in our world right now. His farewell from washington was something to admire for our nation and new president. Don't forget 911 and that our nation wanted action. We went after a ghost that should have been captured during his father's time but it wasn't accomplished. Saddam was an evil man. Judge others with the understanding you to will be judged! How dare you call for a Presidents blood! He served us! Don't forget he was doing something right to be elected twice into office. Incorrect. We went to Iraq to make sure the oil is sold for USD, again. Damn, I am starting to like Obama! |
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Alright... yes there are many reason we went to war with Iraq. Many of them are horrible and disgusting that makes the United States very ashamed of it's actions. I do agree that one of the largest reason Bush's decision to take this country to war was because of our incredible need of oil. Bush did have friends that had a lot to gain and I am not disputing that he used the attack on 9/11 to convince this country to support his decision to go to war with Irag. I can even state that many felt like his father and his cabinet were encouraging him to finish what his campaign started. Their are many reasons why we are their and many of them are not our reasons or something Americans are proud of. Though I didn't support Bush nor the war in Irag I do support our troops. I think Obama is going to find a ton of evidence of against Bush and his cabinet that mislead this country. To be completely honest with you I don't know how Bush is dealing with all this. He is most hated man in the world and he is probably worried about answering the world for his crimes. Though I know without a shadow of a doubt that Saddam was an evil man. Did we have the right to punish him? I don't want the responsibility of those decisions. I most definitely agree that the last 8 years have all but destroyed this country! Do I want to watch a president hang for that. Absolutely not! I repeat... He was elected twice! Bush was our President. I repeat it wasn't one person who created the crisis in the US and one person shouldn't be held accountable for those crimes. Should Bush go to trail for his crimes if any are found and evidence is there to convict him. Absolutely. Should he hang. NO! That is what I am upset about in your statements.
I agree with Obama to hold people accountable for their actions. He stated that very clearly in his speech! Don't call for blood so soon. I agree the media is extremely powerful.. The war in Irag was incredibly televised. They covered every inch of it to the best of the capabilities. I have more faith in Americans. you make it sound like he lead us around with blindfolds. We are more intelligent than that. This nation supported him for various reasons and none of them were good and most were encourage by him and his cabinet. Yes! Don't encourage a witch trail. Our nation is in the crisis because of us! Not one man. |
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If Bush wasnt guilty why would he try to seal his records? If you have nothing to hide you do not fear the truth.
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Alright... yes there are many reason we went to war with Iraq. Many of them are horrible and disgusting that makes the United States very ashamed of it's actions. I do agree that one of the largest reason Bush's decision to take this country to war was because of our incredible need of oil. Bush did have friends that had a lot to gain and I am not disputing that he used the attack on 9/11 to convince this country to support his decision to go to war with Irag. I can even state that many felt like his father and his cabinet were encouraging him to finish what his campaign started. Their are many reasons why we are their and many of them are not our reasons or something Americans are proud of. Though I didn't support Bush nor the war in Irag I do support our troops. I think Obama is going to find a ton of evidence of against Bush and his cabinet that mislead this country. To be completely honest with you I don't know how Bush is dealing with all this. He is most hated man in the world and he is probably worried about answering the world for his crimes. Though I know without a shadow of a doubt that Saddam was an evil man. Did we have the right to punish him? I don't want the responsibility of those decisions. I most definitely agree that the last 8 years have all but destroyed this country! Do I want to watch a president hang for that. Absolutely not! I repeat... He was elected twice! Bush was our President. I repeat it wasn't one person who created the crisis in the US and one person shouldn't be held accountable for those crimes. Should Bush go to trail for his crimes if any are found and evidence is there to convict him. Absolutely. Should he hang. NO! That is what I am upset about in your statements. I agree with Obama to hold people accountable for their actions. He stated that very clearly in his speech! Don't call for blood so soon. I agree the media is extremely powerful.. The war in Irag was incredibly televised. They covered every inch of it to the best of the capabilities. I have more faith in Americans. you make it sound like he lead us around with blindfolds. We are more intelligent than that. This nation supported him for various reasons and none of them were good and most were encourage by him and his cabinet. Yes! Don't encourage a witch trail. Our nation is in the crisis because of us! Not one man. Incorrect. This is what democrats usually say. Since they do not understand economics, this is the only thing that comes to their little mind. You should be better than that. There is no need to bring emotions or hate or love into this. We didn't go to Iraq to "take" their oil. We do not even care who they sell it to. All we needed is to force them to sell it for USD. Hussein tried to sell it for gold twice. First time we punished him. Second time we tore his head off. |
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I am sure he has a lot to hide. You usually do when you go to war. Trust me I am a history major. Do hoenstly think we know everything about the causes of wars. Think... Cold War. He does have alot to hide and I am sure he will have alot to answer for when those records are reviewed! It is sad but it is going to happen.
It just pisses me off that you demanded he be hanged like Saddam. Saddam shouldn't have been hanged either but that is their culture not ours! Ever done the research for those tortures or death sentences. They were horrible. I don't want the responsibility of deciding who dies or lives. Saddam should have been removed from power and punished for his crimes. Yes. However do you honestly think Bush ordered him to hang him. Granted being the leader of the free nation is the most powerful position in the world we have to beleive in our system of government and the organizations of our world for them to work. When they don't we question them and fix the problem. Yes I know Bush did listen to NATO before going in there. I don't agree with that at all. I will state that I beleive some of our system is broken and hopefully the elected officials in washington can begin repairing them and as Obama stated begin us into the times. Our world has changed and we most change with it. You demanded Justice without knowing the facts or actual crimes Bush commited. We are all in agreement there are probably going to be many he commited during his two terms. Our system beleives in a fair trail and justices. We don't have the right or cause to condemn a man to his death without reviewing the facts and evidence. You said you wished for him to be hanged like Saddam. That is not what America stands for or beleives! |
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Edited by
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Thu 01/22/09 05:48 PM
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I am sure he has a lot to hide. You usually do when you go to war. Trust me I am a history major. Do hoenstly think we know everything about the causes of wars. Think... Cold War. He does have alot to hide and I am sure he will have alot to answer for when those records are reviewed! It is sad but it is going to happen. It just pisses me off that you demanded he be hanged like Saddam. Saddam shouldn't have been hanged either but that is their culture not ours! Ever done the research for those tortures or death sentences. They were horrible. I don't want the responsibility of deciding who dies or lives. Saddam should have been removed from power and punished for his crimes. Yes. However do you honestly think Bush ordered him to hang him. Granted being the leader of the free nation is the most powerful position in the world we have to beleive in our system of government and the organizations of our world for them to work. When they don't we question them and fix the problem. Yes I know Bush did listen to NATO before going in there. I don't agree with that at all. I will state that I beleive some of our system is broken and hopefully the elected officials in washington can begin repairing them and as Obama stated begin us into the times. Our world has changed and we most change with it. You demanded Justice without knowing the facts or actual crimes Bush commited. We are all in agreement there are probably going to be many he commited during his two terms. Our system beleives in a fair trail and justices. We don't have the right or cause to condemn a man to his death without reviewing the facts and evidence. You said you wished for him to be hanged like Saddam. That is not what America stands for or beleives! |
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That is true! Isn't it funny how something that shouldn't involve emotion inspires it.
Democrats, Republicans, Liberals.. It doesn't matter which side you support. Most people don't understand economics. What I do understand is that our country is failing because we are failing. One person couldn't have caused this crisis but I will admit one person could have help is progress at an alarming rate. You hear people demanding for Obama to fix Bush mess but can we fix our own mess. Bush has commit crimes! The evidence will bring the crimes against him soon enought but I just want you to remember that for the majority of his campaign most people within our nation supported him and strongly. Though I never did I would have to be blind not to see it. Especailly considering I live in Georgia. I am in the minority. It just seems to me that we are looking for a scape-goat or fall-guy naturally the first choice is the leader. Our President. It is shameful the acts our country has commited in the last 8 years. Just don't forget the crimes brought before Saddam and that he was found quilty by his people. Personally we should have never been there. Anyhow... My anger is because I am tired of people pointing fingers and demanding justices. We can't undo the past but we can learn from it, pay for our crimes, and move forward armed with new knowledge to create a better world for us and our children. Bush and his campaign will have to pay for their crimes but don't condemn without full knowledge and understanding. The American people are intelligent but we need to remember what we stand for and beleive in as a nation. |
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If Bush wasnt guilty why would he try to seal his records? If you have nothing to hide you do not fear the truth. We are living in the world dictated by profit, debt, banks, resources. I know many feels, how things are just don't make any sense, some of them go ruthlessly against common sense and justice. No one else is behind all this, except what I said already. Profit, wealth, money, resources. Truth shall be condenmed, round balls to be carried and square bricks to be rolled. Welcome to a world driven by profit and greed, and of course where things don't always make sense and if you try to pry it open, your hands shall be slapped, because you're ruining the profit. |
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I am sure he has a lot to hide. You usually do when you go to war. Trust me I am a history major. Do hoenstly think we know everything about the causes of wars. Think... Cold War. He does have alot to hide and I am sure he will have alot to answer for when those records are reviewed! It is sad but it is going to happen. It just pisses me off that you demanded he be hanged like Saddam. Saddam shouldn't have been hanged either but that is their culture not ours! Ever done the research for those tortures or death sentences. They were horrible. I don't want the responsibility of deciding who dies or lives. Saddam should have been removed from power and punished for his crimes. Yes. However do you honestly think Bush ordered him to hang him. Granted being the leader of the free nation is the most powerful position in the world we have to beleive in our system of government and the organizations of our world for them to work. When they don't we question them and fix the problem. Yes I know Bush did listen to NATO before going in there. I don't agree with that at all. I will state that I beleive some of our system is broken and hopefully the elected officials in washington can begin repairing them and as Obama stated begin us into the times. Our world has changed and we most change with it. You demanded Justice without knowing the facts or actual crimes Bush commited. We are all in agreement there are probably going to be many he commited during his two terms. Our system beleives in a fair trail and justices. We don't have the right or cause to condemn a man to his death without reviewing the facts and evidence. You said you wished for him to be hanged like Saddam. That is not what America stands for or beleives! Sorry for the misunderstanding but I still feel the same way. You are probably right about life in prison being worse but I would rather see that than a man hung! Are we not a better soceity than that! |
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I am sure he has a lot to hide. You usually do when you go to war. Trust me I am a history major. Do hoenstly think we know everything about the causes of wars. Think... Cold War. He does have alot to hide and I am sure he will have alot to answer for when those records are reviewed! It is sad but it is going to happen. It just pisses me off that you demanded he be hanged like Saddam. Saddam shouldn't have been hanged either but that is their culture not ours! Ever done the research for those tortures or death sentences. They were horrible. I don't want the responsibility of deciding who dies or lives. Saddam should have been removed from power and punished for his crimes. Yes. However do you honestly think Bush ordered him to hang him. Granted being the leader of the free nation is the most powerful position in the world we have to beleive in our system of government and the organizations of our world for them to work. When they don't we question them and fix the problem. Yes I know Bush did listen to NATO before going in there. I don't agree with that at all. I will state that I beleive some of our system is broken and hopefully the elected officials in washington can begin repairing them and as Obama stated begin us into the times. Our world has changed and we most change with it. You demanded Justice without knowing the facts or actual crimes Bush commited. We are all in agreement there are probably going to be many he commited during his two terms. Our system beleives in a fair trail and justices. We don't have the right or cause to condemn a man to his death without reviewing the facts and evidence. You said you wished for him to be hanged like Saddam. That is not what America stands for or beleives! Sorry for the misunderstanding but I still feel the same way. You are probably right about life in prison being worse but I would rather see that than a man hung! Are we not a better soceity than that! |
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Alright... yes there are many reason we went to war with Iraq. Many of them are horrible and disgusting that makes the United States very ashamed of it's actions. I do agree that one of the largest reason Bush's decision to take this country to war was because of our incredible need of oil. Bush did have friends that had a lot to gain and I am not disputing that he used the attack on 9/11 to convince this country to support his decision to go to war with Irag. I can even state that many felt like his father and his cabinet were encouraging him to finish what his campaign started. Their are many reasons why we are their and many of them are not our reasons or something Americans are proud of. Though I didn't support Bush nor the war in Irag I do support our troops. I think Obama is going to find a ton of evidence of against Bush and his cabinet that mislead this country. To be completely honest with you I don't know how Bush is dealing with all this. He is most hated man in the world and he is probably worried about answering the world for his crimes. Though I know without a shadow of a doubt that Saddam was an evil man. Did we have the right to punish him? I don't want the responsibility of those decisions. I most definitely agree that the last 8 years have all but destroyed this country! Do I want to watch a president hang for that. Absolutely not! I repeat... He was elected twice! Bush was our President. I repeat it wasn't one person who created the crisis in the US and one person shouldn't be held accountable for those crimes. Should Bush go to trail for his crimes if any are found and evidence is there to convict him. Absolutely. Should he hang. NO! That is what I am upset about in your statements. I agree with Obama to hold people accountable for their actions. He stated that very clearly in his speech! Don't call for blood so soon. I agree the media is extremely powerful.. The war in Irag was incredibly televised. They covered every inch of it to the best of the capabilities. I have more faith in Americans. you make it sound like he lead us around with blindfolds. We are more intelligent than that. This nation supported him for various reasons and none of them were good and most were encourage by him and his cabinet. Yes! Don't encourage a witch trail. Our nation is in the crisis because of us! Not one man. Bush lied to the American people and congress to execute the war in Iraq for a personal agenda. He revealed a CIA agent to keep her husband from revealing the lie. Then had Scooter Libby take the fall for it and then pardoned him to keep him quiet. George Bush was a puppet. A willing Puppet for a more powerful gang of thugs (The Neo-conservatives) who schemed and USED the power of this country, our military, and the people for their own selfish motives and greed. They conned a lot of Americans until their scheming and excuses became more coincidental than could be believed. Every move he made was against the peoples wishes and as he put it he became "The Great decider." Finally people began to wake up to the reality of his plans. Why do you think his approval rating is so bad. Of course, their are those 22% who will forever more think that what he did was for them. But torture, lies, and invading sovereign countries without provocation has never been the American way. Those responsible for dragging our reputation in the world and our name, Americans, must be prosecuted. Beside the reasons I just gave, for no other reason than to let the younger generation and the 22% know that the Bush Presidency was not the American way. |
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Well, this discussion seems to be splitting between those who think he should be hung, and those who think he should be left alone.
I would suggest to hold the accusations and indecent references, until, as we say in America "proven guilty". All I want is for the records to be open, and for investigators to examine every president. The result will show who did what. |
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When asked about looking into Bush's past, didn't Obama say he was not going to look into the past, but instead look to the future.
Most likely an investigation into Bush will take 4 to 8 years and then Obama will pardon him like past presidents have done for all the other crooked politicians. Money IS thicker than blood. |
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Alright... yes there are many reason we went to war with Iraq. Many of them are horrible and disgusting that makes the United States very ashamed of it's actions. I do agree that one of the largest reason Bush's decision to take this country to war was because of our incredible need of oil. Bush did have friends that had a lot to gain and I am not disputing that he used the attack on 9/11 to convince this country to support his decision to go to war with Irag. I can even state that many felt like his father and his cabinet were encouraging him to finish what his campaign started. Their are many reasons why we are their and many of them are not our reasons or something Americans are proud of. Though I didn't support Bush nor the war in Irag I do support our troops. I think Obama is going to find a ton of evidence of against Bush and his cabinet that mislead this country. To be completely honest with you I don't know how Bush is dealing with all this. He is most hated man in the world and he is probably worried about answering the world for his crimes. Though I know without a shadow of a doubt that Saddam was an evil man. Did we have the right to punish him? I don't want the responsibility of those decisions. I most definitely agree that the last 8 years have all but destroyed this country! Do I want to watch a president hang for that. Absolutely not! I repeat... He was elected twice! Bush was our President. I repeat it wasn't one person who created the crisis in the US and one person shouldn't be held accountable for those crimes. Should Bush go to trail for his crimes if any are found and evidence is there to convict him. Absolutely. Should he hang. NO! That is what I am upset about in your statements. I agree with Obama to hold people accountable for their actions. He stated that very clearly in his speech! Don't call for blood so soon. I agree the media is extremely powerful.. The war in Irag was incredibly televised. They covered every inch of it to the best of the capabilities. I have more faith in Americans. you make it sound like he lead us around with blindfolds. We are more intelligent than that. This nation supported him for various reasons and none of them were good and most were encourage by him and his cabinet. Yes! Don't encourage a witch trail. Our nation is in the crisis because of us! Not one man. Bush lied to the American people and congress to execute the war in Iraq for a personal agenda. He revealed a CIA agent to keep her husband from revealing the lie. Then had Scooter Libby take the fall for it and then pardoned him to keep him quiet. George Bush was a puppet. A willing Puppet for a more powerful gang of thugs (The Neo-conservatives) who schemed and USED the power of this country, our military, and the people for their own selfish motives and greed. They conned a lot of Americans until their scheming and excuses became more coincidental than could be believed. Every move he made was against the peoples wishes and as he put it he became "The Great decider." Finally people began to wake up to the reality of his plans. Why do you think his approval rating is so bad. Of course, their are those 22% who will forever more think that what he did was for them. But torture, lies, and invading sovereign countries without provocation has never been the American way. Those responsible for dragging our reputation in the world and our name, Americans, must be prosecuted. Beside the reasons I just gave, for no other reason than to let the younger generation and the 22% know that the Bush Presidency was not the American way. |
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If Bush wasnt guilty why would he try to seal his records? If you have nothing to hide you do not fear the truth. We are living in the world dictated by profit, debt, banks, resources. I know many feels, how things are just don't make any sense, some of them go ruthlessly against common sense and justice. No one else is behind all this, except what I said already. Profit, wealth, money, resources. Truth shall be condenmed, round balls to be carried and square bricks to be rolled. Welcome to a world driven by profit and greed, and of course where things don't always make sense and if you try to pry it open, your hands shall be slapped, because you're ruining the profit. Uh you forgot on more thing...the politicans who want to get re-elected. They all had their hand in the till. Yu wanna go after BUSH...go after all those who voted WITH him as well. That includes DEMS! |
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