That's the funniest joke I have heard in the last month, is this the teachers who are underpaid and overworked? Or are these the teachers and administrators that prey on young kids? Or are these the teachers just waiting for their State pension to kick in.

Please don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for teachers, but the good ones are burnt out, and the bad ones, well they are pretty bad.

Yes, now I fully agree full supervision is of the utmost, but when they are 13, 14 and 15, they aren't going with you to the grocery store.

You're not understanding me, I am speaking about when they are in their teen years, don't twist this around, my neices and nephews all below the age of 7, have no desire for myspace, they don't even know what it is.

Again I will state, it is a childs job to push the boundries and a parents job to enforce them, however if you want smart, taxpaying adult children, you have to let the birds fly from the nest, and fall doing it.

I'm not going to argue with you about kids, Good luck friend, that's all I am saying, good luck. The more you tell kids not to do something, the more they want to do it, even in the best homes.

Oh and lets not forget the school computer lab on lunch break, are you going to be there then also?

Good luck with that. I take it you don't work outside the home, you don't sleep, you don't go out of the house even to the grocery store, I assume also that your kids are not allowed to go to the library by themselves, or to other friends houses? Well they should be pretty normal kids then.

The book that really helped me was "Walking on EggShells"

I absolutley remember that, but if you shelter then to the age of 18, then kick them out, think about the extent of damage to their lives they can have at that point.

As a kid your job is to push boundries, as a parent you job is to enforce them, but you have to let go a little also. You have to give people breathing room. If you don't let someone breath, they sufercate, and then they take to despirate measures. If you allow them to trip up a few times while you are still there to catch them, it will teach them lessons for their adult life.

I realized after reading this today and really thinking about it, I still have reprocussions from him, it has been almost 2 years too. I really hope someday he grows a soul and relized what he has done to not only me, but countless others and his 3 sons.

What she just said is what I was saying, if your kids are going to hide something like that from you, then you blow it wide open, it will only make them be more sneaky.

and what could have been just growing pains, asserting independance could turn into something more, because the child doens't feel like they have any privacy. They will push bigger and larger boundries.

I had a mother who I love dearly, but she was constantly in my diary, on my computer, I left home at 17. I wasn't doing anything wrong, I didn't even have sex until 4-5 years ago. Anyone with the seek and destroy attitude is going to push the kids to do worse than hide little boyfriends on the internet.

Talk to your kids, or neices and nephews, doesn't anyone remember being young like that? Like nothing could hurt you, nothing could touch you? Are we really in such a jaded state that no one remembers what it feels like to be young and free, like adults don't understand you? Geez Francis lighten up.

How old are you now?

Then they can make everyone else believe it is you that is the mental one.

You really don't get over it, you don't trust anybody, if a man is nice to you, you want to know why, and what his intention is. And I lost alot of friends, people who were my friends first even, they didn't believe he was capable of the things he did. It's a lesson we have to learn I suppose.

Keep your head up.

If you like shopping, high class shopping you'd like Grand Cayman, if you like dirty historic places that have been re-done to look like they are historic places you'd like Cozomel, or Jamaica, If you like a bit of both along with some local flair I would recomend Nassua Bahamas, not Grand Bahama island that is really touristy just like Jamaica.

Grand Cayman is about the best when it comes to keeping the fast buck tourist traps down, and the 7 mile beach is wonderful and pristine.

Nassua is my favorite, it used to be cheaper, but for some reason it is getting more expensive. But it is also fairly clean, not as good as GC but very nice.

I believe this, my self esteem was a bit low at the time, but moreso, I wanted to help him, he played the victim very very well, maybe that was part of my self esteem issue, I wanted to feel needed. Maybe that is why I help no one but myself, why I like internet dating, I can really get to know someone, make them wait for me to meet them. I just know the minute a man plays the dominance card, I hit the road, and don't look back.

Thank you madam for posting this, and thank you for being so strong to post some of your story.

I have heard alot of people use this term lightly, and trust me, once you really are dealing with one, you never use it lightly again.

I'm not passive agressive, I was very direct with what I said, tone and context is impossible to conceive over the internet.

If you read the thread threw, both of them started with the personal attacks.

This is ridiculous, I have never in my life been accused of being a mean person.

If you delve into this young girls private life although yes she is a minor and she finds out you have deceived her or whatever the case, she will shut you out of her life compleatly. If you run and tell her parents, not only will she shy away from them, but you too, 16 is a tricky age for a girl, unfortunatly you have to use kid gloves, or you will lose her forever.

The name of the topic is Let me introduce some humor isn't it?

Well Pavlick won, but not by much, Taylor clearly had better form, but Pavlick landed more hits for sure.

don't stroke out now.

spin doctor.