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I'm trying very hard not to fuel the fire here, but there are some who confuse "having a different opinion" with "closed mindedness"...and as a result have become very rude and defensive. But enough of that. This is the most f ucking ridiculous site I have ever been on in my life. It is full of ignorance, and nasty bulling people. To those whom I have spoken to individully have a great life, to those of you on this thread.... who are clearly women haters and pathetically ignorant people, go f uck yourself. |
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I gave you my facts, it's called real life experiences, you dismissed them, because I didn't fit into what you wanted to say. I lived it, I saw it, but you act as if it didn't happen to me. So think about your actions and words before you call someone else contentious. One of the biggest indicators of contentiousness is putting words into other people's mouths via assumption. I did not dismiss your experiences because they didn't fit what I wanted you to say. I dismissed them because I found it fairly incredible that one could see someone walking down the street and know their political and ideological beliefs. In fact, when asking about how you knew...how could I have been "wanting" to hear anything specific at all? It's an open ended question to which no one but you has an answer...I couldn't have been thinking of a particular answer that I believed in. By necessity. I told you exactly how I know it to be true. You chose to dismiss it. |
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I was there, and saw it, so go live in your fantasy world, where the politicians are working for you, and the US is the almighty moral directors of the world. Have a good time. Your contentiousness is really quite uncalled for...I thought your intention was to have a well versed debate on the topic but yet you keep resorting to generalizations and dismissing any honest requests for facts to support your assertions. Facts??...Or Opinion? I gave you my facts, it's called real life experiences, you dismissed them, because I didn't fit into what you wanted to say. I lived it, I saw it, but you act as if it didn't happen to me. So think about your actions and words before you call someone else contentious. get a dictionary and look it up, I was there it happened to me, I saw it and experienced it, so it was fact. My opinion of it is quite a different matter all together. Alot of people have seen UFOs and Bigfoot too... Im guessing your story fits in there quite nicely ... ok. have a nice day. Tell me though, does it make you feel more like a man to belittle a woman, or would you perfer to go back into the military so you can be a baby killer? tell me which one feels better to you? Youre truth has finally surfaced , congratulations...I wasnt debating a woman , rather a very ingnorant individual... 
Ya, i was out of hand, i went back and changed it. But tell me how many domestic violence charges do you have against you? |
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Edited by
aspiringactress
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Wed 02/20/08 10:01 AM
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I was there, and saw it, so go live in your fantasy world, where the politicians are working for you, and the US is the almighty moral directors of the world. Have a good time. Your contentiousness is really quite uncalled for...I thought your intention was to have a well versed debate on the topic but yet you keep resorting to generalizations and dismissing any honest requests for facts to support your assertions. Facts??...Or Opinion? I gave you my facts, it's called real life experiences, you dismissed them, because I didn't fit into what you wanted to say. I lived it, I saw it, but you act as if it didn't happen to me. So think about your actions and words before you call someone else contentious. get a dictionary and look it up, I was there it happened to me, I saw it and experienced it, so it was fact. My opinion of it is quite a different matter all together. Alot of people have seen UFOs and Bigfoot too... Im guessing your story fits in there quite nicely ... ok. have a nice day. Tell me though, does it make you feel more like a man to belittle a woman? Or do you just go straight to hitting them? |
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I was there, and saw it, so go live in your fantasy world, where the politicians are working for you, and the US is the almighty moral directors of the world. Have a good time. Your contentiousness is really quite uncalled for...I thought your intention was to have a well versed debate on the topic but yet you keep resorting to generalizations and dismissing any honest requests for facts to support your assertions. Facts??...Or Opinion? I gave you my facts, it's called real life experiences, you dismissed them, because I didn't fit into what you wanted to say. I lived it, I saw it, but you act as if it didn't happen to me. So think about your actions and words before you call someone else contentious. get a dictionary and look it up, I was there it happened to me, I saw it and experienced it, so it was fact. My opinion of it is quite a different matter all together. |
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I was there, and saw it,
and you didn't stop one of the Taliban's that strolled by to ask where Bin Laden was?...you do know about the reward don't ya?.. 
Well, i was told to stay away from them, so i did, they were very angry in nature, I had no problem obeying that directive. |
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I was there, and saw it, so go live in your fantasy world, where the politicians are working for you, and the US is the almighty moral directors of the world. Have a good time. Your contentiousness is really quite uncalled for...I thought your intention was to have a well versed debate on the topic but yet you keep resorting to generalizations and dismissing any honest requests for facts to support your assertions. I gave you my facts, it's called real life experiences, you dismissed them, because I didn't fit into what you wanted to say. I lived it, I saw it, but you act as if it didn't happen to me. So think about your actions and words before you call someone else contentious. |
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go to Europe and sit at a cafe in France and watch the Taliban stroll by.
do they have tags that say "HELLO I'm a Taliban" or can you tell they're Taliban by the C4 they are wearing around their waist?...
I agree...pegging people as "Taliban" while sitting at a cafe in France doesn't bolster your claim that we need to check our sources. For the record, I'm a very open minded individual trying to present both sides of the argument and I'd rather rot in hell than watch Fox News! 
I was there, and saw it, so go live in your fantasy world, where the politicians are working for you, and the US is the almighty moral directors of the world. Have a good time. |
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go to Europe and sit at a cafe in France and watch the Taliban stroll by.
do they have tags that say "HELLO I'm a Taliban" or can you tell they're Taliban by the C4 they are wearing around their waist?...
I don't know why don't you go up and ask them yourself? When i went to France I was there for a substantial amount of time, with a host family, they told me the ins and outs of staying safe in the cities. I was told, that is who they were, and the things they do, I have no reason not to believe them, I also saw protest against the US by them, and although I do not speak that language, I was with some people who did, and they told me what they were saying. Now are you going to tell me that 3 or 4 different groups of people who took me into their home and into their lives lied to me? For what reason would they have?
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WW2 we really got involved because Japan bombued us, not some faceless terrorist group, an actual country. Again, go to Europe and sit at a cafe in France and watch the Taliban stroll by. Why aren't we attacking France? They have a HUGE population of Taliban there, have since the 70's. Again why aren't we attacking them? Yeah The Taliban run rampant there..  Would love to see those statistics...Im guessing theyre real volcal about it as well...Im also guessing those strolling by have targets on their heads...but then again were talking about France where most cowardly people co-exsist:)
European countries are stable and secure countries...regardless of any perceived (or made up) presence of the Taliban there (remember, Muslim does NOT mean Taliban), they are able to control them. Iraq was not only unable to control them, they harbored them and provided them with safe haven. That's the difference. Actualy Iraq was a sworn enemy of Al Queda, there was no teaming up there whatsoever nor would Saddam have given them shelter. That's just another one of Bushs lies given the CIA report clearly stated there was no connection;^] Turtle, save it, they don't want to hear it, they perfer to live in their own private fox holes where FOX NEWS is the only station that plays. |
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Edited by
aspiringactress
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Wed 02/20/08 09:26 AM
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WW2 we really got involved because Japan bombued us, not some faceless terrorist group, an actual country. Again, go to Europe and sit at a cafe in France and watch the Taliban stroll by. Why aren't we attacking France? They have a HUGE population of Taliban there, have since the 70's. Again why aren't we attacking them? Yeah The Taliban run rampant there.. Would love to see those statistics...Im guessing theyre real volcal about it as well...Im also guessing those strolling by have targets on their heads...but then again were talking about France where most cowardly people co-exsist:)
European countries are stable and secure countries...regardless of any perceived (or made up) presence of the Taliban there (remember, Muslim does NOT mean Taliban), they are able to control them. Iraq was not only unable to control them, they harbored them and provided them with safe haven. That's the difference. say what you will, I experinced it. I know first hand. I was there, and it was after 9/11. I am more than well aware that Muslim is not the same. |
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I don't support THIS war, yes, we have had wars that were necessary. THIS one is not.
if this war was going better would it then turn into a war that was necessary?..If the WW II had the coverage this war has I wonder how people in the western world would have reacted because at times WW II was going extremely bad for the Allied Forces. One thing you don't know if this war wasn't necessary due to the fact that you don't know what the terrorists would be doing if not fighting in Iraq since the war began.. WW2 we really got involved because Japan bombued us, not some faceless terrorist group, an actual country. Again, go to Europe and sit at a cafe in France and watch the Taliban stroll by. Why aren't we attacking France? They have a HUGE population of Taliban there, have since the 70's. Again why aren't we attacking them? Yeah The Taliban run rampant there.. Would love to see those statistics...Im guessing theyre real volcal about it as well...Im also guessing those strolling by have targets on their heads...but then again were talking about France where most cowardly people co-exsist:)
I've sat in cafes in France and watched the Taliban walk by, when I asked the local people I met there about it, they told me. Check your stats, check with sources before you try to discredit someone on things they have experienced. Maybe I could say that you really arn't a vet. I won't, but before you discredit someone. Think about what you are saying. |
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Lindyy says: Darn, on an old thread I did a blurb on the UN - Kofi Annan and the scandal of the Oil For Food program. In it it directly links al quada with Sadaam Hussein. Anyway, there are several of our wonderful servicemen former/current on this thread who can much better opine on this subject, and if I am wrong in what I am saying, please correct me. Today, the draft is no longer in effect or is 'sitting idle' in some rule/regulation, etc. somewhere. All of the military are willingly enlisted. That means they want to be in the military. They realize all the pros and cons of being in the military, all the sacrifices that they may have to make and do make. The military is for the purpose of defending the USA, both offensive and defensive, just like a football game. If our military were not acting in an offensive manner, the terrorists would be right here in the USA, better to fight the war on terrorism over seas than on our own land. NO ONE wants war! But, freedom comes with a high price tag, and our brave military men and women pay that price tag for the rest of us to sit here and flap our jaws - freely. A very grateful thank you all USA military on this thread. 
Lindyy Lindyy I know this is going to be shocking, but I agree with you on your comments. My stance is however, because these men and women have surrendered theri lives to the mercy of the government of the US, it is not our responsibility to treat it like they matter and honor them, by not putting them in situations where a son is now keeping his fathers vengance alive. We should truely honor them, by not putting them in harms way, for no good reason. Honestly if the Taliban wanted to they could have done MUCH more damage than they did on 9/11/01. If they really wanted to, they could have taken alot more cities and they very possibly could have taken over cities. They didn't. They don't want to take away our freedom, they just don't like us. They caused havoc and chaos so that we would destroy ourselves, and we are doing a damn good job of it. They won after all didn't they? |
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I don't support THIS war, yes, we have had wars that were necessary. THIS one is not.
if this war was going better would it then turn into a war that was necessary?..If the WW II had the coverage this war has I wonder how people in the western world would have reacted because at times WW II was going extremely bad for the Allied Forces. One thing you don't know if this war wasn't necessary due to the fact that you don't know what the terrorists would be doing if not fighting in Iraq since the war began.. WW2 we really got involved because Japan bombued us, not some faceless terrorist group, an actual country. Again, go to Europe and sit at a cafe in France and watch the Taliban stroll by. Why aren't we attacking France? They have a HUGE population of Taliban there, have since the 70's. Again why aren't we attacking them? |
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okay wait is there two differat topics in here going on? everyone supports each and every soldier over there right and wishes them a safe return and we want them home alive..theres no argument about this so please stop saying we're ungreatful for them! it is what they are being told or forced to do and why or why not they shouldnt be doing it is what is being debating..correct? Yes, some people just want to discredit people in the wrong way to win what they see as a personal attack.
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Stick to acting.... 
...Former Marine and Gulf War vet I support our troups, I don't support a fruitless war that put our troups in harms way for no good reason. This country dosnt have the stomache for war anymore...Have we been attacked on our soil since 9-11?..Do you think its a coincidence or do you think its because our troops have crippled al Quada s efforts to inflict terror? Typical liberal BS..All show , now go.. Easy to be critical from outside the fence ..I repesct your opinion though
I hate to tell you this, but Al Quada has been around since the 70's and if you ever visited Europe, they and the Taliban roam freely about the streets of England and France, still to this day. we aren't stopping anything, if we slowely pulled out and focused on homeland security, our efforts would be much better spent, and with less casulties at the same time. Laughable...Sell that to Mccain ..our next President...You liberals seem to forget that we are a warring nation...Everything this country has gotten or will get has been gained on the backs of our fighting men... So grab a double latte at your nearest Starbucks and hug a tree, but before you do , hug a vet and thank him...
I think you are really really misunderstanding me, I DO support our troups, and I am eternally grateful for what they do, and for what the genrations before them have done. Because I have a great love for the military men and women, I don't support THIS war, yes, we have had wars that were necessary. THIS one is not. We have gotten in so deep and the reason we started this is no longer the case. We need to bring them home, honor them, but not the politicians who put them there. I WILL never disrespect a vet. They did what they vowed to do, even if it may have been fully against their values and morals. In no way do I disrespect them. My uncle was a Vietnam vet, my father was a vet, someone I love very very dearly now is on his second tour in the heat of it, I honor and respect and love them, but not this war. |
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you are bringing up two different issues... I served as Air Force Explosive Ordinance Disposal, I went overseas, and pardon my lingo, assholes like you make it harder on the troops, this is a nice refreshing look back at vietnam, you are making morale over there very harsh, instead of end the war protests, we know nobody wanted us over there, nobody cares about your voice, instead, go find a uso office, get an address of a company, or unit and send letters from home, tell them you thank them for what they are doing, DEFENDING YOUR COUNTRY... and be glad they are doing so, who knows what language we'd all be speaking if it wasn't for them doing what you'd never do, fight... and unfortunatly give up their life so you can watch tv, read a book, sit on your ass, drink your coffee, act, anything you do in a day go thank a soldier, until then, shut your mouth about bring them home, send a letter 
Well since you know so much about how active I am, I'll let you think what you think, and live in your own private fox hole. |
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I dont really like it but i still support it for the simple reason they came over here to our country and blew up our buildings killing lots of innocent people who did not deserve to die. Oh and Obama said if he makes president he is pulling our troops out and bringing them home. If he does that it will leave the US open for anyone to come over here do the same thing this time it could be our schools or whatever else they decide to blow up here. Check your facts, the Iraquis didn't bomb us, a terrorist group did, not a country. That would be like if the Hells Angels bombed Canada and the Canadians attacked the US. The US does not support the Hells Angels (Just using the name, I have no prejudice against them) but because they reside in this country we take the brunt of it. |
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let me ask all you pro war people why we're in Iraq??? Terrorists didn't come from there!!! You all could get your facts straight weren't they supported by Afganistan? How did Iraq get pulled into the equation? Why are we focusing there again? |
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Stick to acting....
...Former Marine and Gulf War vet I support our troups, I don't support a fruitless war that put our troups in harms way for no good reason. This country dosnt have the stomache for war anymore...Have we been attacked on our soil since 9-11?..Do you think its a coincidence or do you think its because our troops have crippled al Quada s efforts to inflict terror? Typical liberal BS..All show , now go.. Easy to be critical from outside the fence ..I repesct your opinion though
I hate to tell you this, but Al Quada has been around since the 70's and if you ever visited Europe, they and the Taliban roam freely about the streets of England and France, still to this day. we aren't stopping anything, if we slowely pulled out and focused on homeland security, our efforts would be much better spent, and with less casulties at the same time. |
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