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MorningSong
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Tue 03/13/12 05:35 AM
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God has to come and dwell among us as man......IF
God had come in all His Power and Glory, He woud have destroyed the world to smitherins with All His Power and Glory. Also.....God would have been an INTRUDER. When adam and eve sinned,and sold out to satan thru their disobedience to God, it allowed the enemy the right to become the god of this world now. God had to become God INCARNATE....to have a body to come to this world in!!!!! Therefore,God woud not be considered an Intruder that way !!! Jesus was GOD INCARNATE ......Emanuel....GOD WITH US....fully God and fully man !!!! Peter_Pan...it is very obvious that you have been exposed to some kind of strange demonc teaching that ATTACKS SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE !!!!!! And btw, it is NOT NOT NOT messianic (as you stated in christian singles) ....NOR has it anything to do with judiasm either in any form of fashion...nor the bible.....nor christianity ....this is just weird wacky crap you spout on here, that you most likely picked up from some website that ATTACKS the bible. Nothing more. And..it is the ENEMY behind this vicious ATTACK of the Bilbe !!!! This crap comes from the pits of hell...and is no different than the " serpent seed" crap, which is also circulating around out there lately!!!! I know the messianic jewish people....and write music using the Name of Yeshua myself...and what you post on here is not messianic in the least !!!! Praying God will set you free from this confusion and demonic deception crap you have gotten yourself into !!! Take care now. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 03/13/12 04:58 AM
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God did NOT allow Abrahmam to sacrifuce His son..
God stopped him!!! God has NO intention of Abraham sacrificing His son...it was obedience God was looking for...and in fact, God already KNEW BEFOREHAND, that He could find that in Abraham. Obedience is better rhan sacrifice !!! An OBEDIENT heart can only come by FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD, NOT thru man's vain efforts !! NO one is able to be obedient ,until one is born again!!! Cause...once more....man is incaplable of obeying on His own strength!!! |
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Psalm 49:7 (NIV) NO MAN can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him-- New Living Translation (©2007) Yet they cannot redeem themselves from death by paying a ransom to God. English Standard Version (©2001) Truly no man can ransom another, or give to God the price of his life, New American Standard Bible (©1995) No man can by any means redeem his brother Or give to God a ransom for him-- King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) A brother does not save, and a man does not give God his redemption. GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) No one can ever buy back another person or pay God a ransom for his life. King James 2000 Bible (©2003) None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: American King James Version None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: American Standard Version None of them can by any means redeem his brother, Nor give to God a ransom for him; Douay-Rheims Bible No brother can redeem, nor shall man redeem: he shall not give to God his ransom, Darby Bible Translation None can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him, English Revised Version None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: ................................................................... THAT IS WHY IT WAS NOT JUST SOME MERE MORTAL MAN ON THAT CROSS FOR US.....BUT THAT WAS GOD HIMSELF ON THAT CROSSS FOR US !!!!!!! AND NO.... NOT JUST SOME MERE DEMI-GOD EITHER !!!!!! BUT GOD !!!!!! GOD HIMSELF !!!!!! THRU GOD THE SON !!!!!!!! .................................................................. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 03/13/12 03:34 AM
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Sin_and_Sorrow...JESUS was FULLY man AS WELL as FULLY GOD.
(Jesus was NOT just a mere human being ) !!!! NO MERE human could EVER pay for our sins. EVER !!!! PLUS...GOD WAS TOTALLY AGAINST HUMAN SACRIFICES !!!!!! POINT BEING..... ONLY INFINITE GOD could pay the price for INFINITE sin !!!! Again.... THAT IS WHY IT WAS GOD HIMSELF ( THRU GOD THE SON), ON THAT CROSS FOR US. GOD STEPPED DOWN (THRU GOD THE SON) AND PAID FOR OUR SINS IN FULL AT CALVARY. THERE IS NO GREATER LOVE SHOWN THAN WHAT JESUS DID FOR US !! AGAIN.... JESUS WAS FULLY MAN AS WELL AS FULLY GOD !!! GOD HAS TO BECOME MAN TO PAY THE PRICE...BUT AGAIN ,THAT WAS NOT NOT NOT JUST SOME MERE MAN ON THAT CROSS....THAT WAS GOD HIMSELF (GOD THE SON) ON THAT CROSS !!! GOTTA RUN....BE BLESSED NOW !!! |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 03/13/12 03:11 AM
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John 14:16-31 (KJV) 16And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of Truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 22Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 25These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. 29And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe. 30Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. 31But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 03/13/12 12:54 AM
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What can wash away our SINS? NOTHING But the BLOOD of JESUS. http://nethymnal.org/htm/n/b/nbtblood.htm Matthew 26:28 Jesus said: "for this is MY BLOOD of the NEW COVENANT, which is SHED for MANY for the FORGIVENESS of SIN." Ephesians 1:7 ...we have REDEMPTION through HIS BLOOD, the FORGIVENESS OF SINS, according to the RICHNESS of HIS GRACE; Colossians 1:14 ...we have REDEMPTION through HIS BLOOD, even the FORGIVENESS of SINS. Zechariah 12:10 .....then they will look on ME whom they pierced. Hebrews 9:22 WITHOUT the SHEDDING of BLOOD , there is NO REMISSION OF SINS. http://nethymnal.org/htm/n/b/nbtblood.htm |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 03/13/12 12:37 AM
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Cowboy wrote:
MorningSong, the Holy Spirit indwells in us all. Weather they are a believer or a none believer. Some listen to God, some don't. Some see God, some ignore him. But nevertheless he is there. He will forsake no one.
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God and the holy spirit dwells inside of you? He did not tell us know ye not that the saved are temples of God... no. He said YOU are the temple of God. No...God will not ever forsake anyone. But Cowboy, the rest of what you just posted is Incorrect....because as usual, you refuse to take any time out to study God' Word ,in order that you may truly learn what God's Word REALLY has to say. That scripture in Corinthians, was being addressed to BELIEVERS !!!! ONLY !!!! 1st Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" God's HOLY SPIRIT will NOT INDWELL a non-believer's body !!! NOT until a person beieves and comes to Christ FIRST( when he does, his sins are now forgiven and washed in the blood... he is covered by the blood of Jesus now when he became born again). But.......until his sins are forgiven and under the blood now, GOD AND THAT PERSON'S SIN CANNOT AND WILL NOT MIX !!!!! GOD AND SIN DON'T MIX !!! THAT IS WHY WE MUST COME THRU JESUS FIRST (WHO FORGIVES US OF OUR SINS AND WASHES US WHITER THAN SNOW ), BEFORE WE CAN STAND BEFORE HOLY GOD NOW. WHEN GOD SEE A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER, HE JUST SEES THE BLOOD OF JESUS COVERING THAT BELIEIVER NOW...AND NOT THE BELIEVER'S SINS ANY MORE !!!!! AGAIN.... THE BELIEVER'S SINS HAVE BEEN NOW FORGIVEN AND WASHED AWAY BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS NOW.... AND THAT BELIEVER NOW IS COVERED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS !!!!! Revelation 1:5 "Unto HIM that Loved Us, and WASHED Us from our SINS in HIS Own BLOOD." THEN AND ONY THEN WILL GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT INDWELL A PERSON. NOT BEFORE. PLEASE COWBOY....TAKE SOME TIME TO STUDY YOUR BIBLE BEFORE POSTING ON HERE!!!!! PLEASE?????? WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO !!!! BEG??? |
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Topic:
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The Gospel Message is FOR
Whosoever WILL....... NOT FOR Whosoever Will NOT....... |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 10:49 PM
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Cowboy wrote:
There is no "You better do this or else" and a "yeeeeeeeeaaaaaah, if you want to" sets of laws. Any and all laws Jesus has given us is to be kept. There is no such thing as a small sin and a big sin. All sin is equal and forgivable except the one sin of denying the lord thy God. Every and all other sins are just as potent as another.
I never once said anything about denominations or non- denominations NOT keeping God's law...that is your own misconscruing and misundersrtanding of what I even shared at all. Actually, after reading all your other responses to my posts on here just now, I can see ,as usual, that not one bit of what I shared , "got thru" to you at all. So nevermind. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 08:51 PM
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All those different denominations AGREE
ON THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE . (NOT talking about cults who just CLAIM to be christian, but do NOT believe in and follow all the basic fundamental truths of the bible AT ALL !!!!) . But the mainline denominations and non-denominations as well, ALL believe in and follow the Basic Fundamental Truths of the Bible.....they only disagree on MINOR less important stuff....which is fine. Diversity is fine....as long as diversity among believers is NOT distorting and TWISTING the Truth of God's Holy Word ( which is found in that book called The Bible ). |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 08:30 PM
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Cowboy...People in their born again christian walk,
are all at different levels of growth and maturity...all begin as babes in Christ, and mature and grow into adults as they continue to grow.... but some also are disobedient children...and refuse to get out of the nursery....and God then has to chastise them... but ALSO...not everyone who says he/she is a christian , is actually born again...and therefote, just has some religion still, and not Relationship yet with God. And of course, you also the enemy coming in ....trying to create confusion and always trying to distort the gospel. But when one is truly born again ,one has The Holy Spirit Indwelling him now....but regardless ,all believers will still be at different levels of growth and maturity....and that is fine....and as long as they are believers, God will help them to grow up...and come together in One Accord as One Body in Christ. |
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Cowboy...People in their born again christian walk,
are all at different levels of growth and maturity..all begin as babes in Christ, aand mature and grow into adults as they continue to grow.... but some also are disobedient children...and refuse to get out of the nursery....and God then has to chatise them... but ALSO...not everyone who says he/she is a christian , is actually born again...and therefote, just has some religion still, and not Relationship yet with God. And of course, you also the enemy coming in ....trying to create confusion and distort the gospel. But when one is truly born again ,one has The Holy Spirit Indwelling him now....but all believers will still be at different levels of growth..and that is fine..as long as they are believers, God will help them to grow up...and come together in One Accord as One Body in Christ. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 08:14 PM
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God KNEW we were NOT capable of KEEPING HIS
COMMANDMENTS on our own strength and by our own doing !!!!!!!! GOD KNEW!!!! That is WHY God Sent us a Saviour...His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ !!!! And WHEN WE ACCEPT THIS FREE GIFT OF GRACE GIVEN US ( by believing and asking Jesus into our hearts ), we now become BORN AGAIN......and God ALSO NOW gives us a HELPER ( GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT ),Who Comes in and INDWELLS the believer now.....and HELPS AND ENABLES a Born again believer to be ABLE to KEEP and OBEY God's Commandments Now !!!!. See now? |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 06:55 PM
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Cowboy....The scripture says, He that HATH (HAS) also KEEPETH (KEEPS).... IF all HATH.... then all would KEEPETH.... Obvioulsy ...not all KEEPETH...because not all HATH ..... |
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A =1 the meaning is The Only One
God is ONE GOD. A=1. A( Father,Son,Holy SpIrit )= 1 . God IS ONE GOD ONLY. There is ONLY ONE GOD. God is ONE SUPREME BEING (ENTITY)...(but there are 3 Persons WITHIN that ONE SUPREME BEING(ENTITY)...... but God is still ONLY ONE GOD. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY. PERIOD. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 06:28 PM
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in reference to the scripture Cowboy quoted:
John 14:21
21He that HATH my commandments, and KEEPETH them, he it is that LOVETH me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will MANIFEST myself to him. NOTICE The Word HATH . NOTICE ....It did not say OBEY, it said HATH!!! Meaning : WHEN one HATH the commandments (which God writes on the tablet of ones heart WHEN one becomes BORN AGAIN),that one WILL NOW ALSO KEEP (OBEY ) the Commandments Now. ( ALL the law and the prophets HANG now on these 2 Commandments that Jesus spoke of...which are.... to Love God with all your heart and mind and soul...and to Love your neighbor as yourself). A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER HATH THOSE COMMANDMENTS WITHIN HIM NOW ....CAUSE GOD WROTE THEM ON THE TABLET OF HIS HEART WHEN HE BELIEVED AND ASKED JESUS IN !!! ONLY THRU THE NEW NATURE WITHIN ,IS HOW ONE HATH THE COMMMANDMENTS...AND IS ABLE TO THEREFORE TRULY OBEY AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS WITH A WILLING HEART NOW !!! BECAUSE GOD IN THAT BORN AGAIN BELIEVER ,IS THE ONE WHO IS ACTUALLY HELPING AND ENABLING HIM TO OBEY NOW !!!! GOD GAVE THAT BORN AGAIN BELIEVER A HEART LIKE GOD'S HEART NOW....A HEART THAT WANTS TO OBEY AND PLEASE GOD NOW !!!! BUT ONE HAS TO FIRST HAVE THE COMMANDMENTS WITTHIN...WRITTEN ON ONE'S HEART FIRST ...IN ORDER TO BE TRULY ABLE TO OBEY!!!! AND THAT CAN ONLY HAPPEN WHEN ONE IS BORN AGAIN!!! To TRY and Obey God WITHOUT first BECOMING BORN AGAIN, is just DEAD RELIGIOUS WORKS TO GOD !!!!! NOTHING MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! CAUSE THAT PERSON DOES NOT HAVE THE COMMANDMENTS YET WRITTEN ON THE TABLET OF HIS HEART !!!! HE IS ONLY TRYING TO OBEY GOD AND DO WORKS TO PLEASE GOD , STILL ONLY FROM THE OUTSIDE WITH HIS OLD NATURE......AND NOT FROM THE INSIDE, WHICH COMES THRU HAVING A NEW NATURE WITHIN!!!! AMEN?!!! BUT......WHEN ONE IS BORN AGAIN ,THAT PERSON NOW HAS A HEART LIKE GOD NOW.........BECAUSE GOD HIMSELF IS ACTUALLY LIVING IN AND LOVING THRU THAT PERSON NOW !!!! THIS IS WHY NONE OF US WHO ARE BORN AGAIN CAN EVER EVER EVER BOAST !!!!!!!! BECAUSE IT IS NOT US.....BUT GOD IN US WHO IS LOVING THRU US AND IN US NOW, WHO IS MAKING ALLL THE DIFFERENCE IN US NOW!!!! TO GOD ALONE BE ALLLLLL THE GLORY !!!!!!! GOD ALONE IS THE ONE WHO CHANGES US INSIDE...NOT NOT NOT US.....GOD ALONE IS THE ONE LOVING THRU US AND HELPING US TO LOVE LIKE HIM...NOT US !!! GOD HIMSELF(THRU GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT ) STEPPED INSIDE AND GAVE US A BRAND NEW NATURE...A BRAND NEW HEART...A HEART CAPALBE OF LOVING LIKE GOD NOW. HE ALONE PERFECTS THAT GOOD WORK THAT HE HAS BEGUN IN US!!! WE JUST YIELD AND OBEY WITH GLAD HEARTS NOW....BECAUSE OF THE LOVE OF GOD IN US NOW. WHAT AN AWESOME GOD !!! AMEN AND AMEN AND AMEN!!!! |
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This is For All:
One CAN"T REALLY Love God... and One CAN'T REALLY LOVE his NEIGHBOR as Himself, UNTIL one has a NEW HEART WITHIN....a BRAND NEW NATURE WITHIN....which COMES when one is BORN AGAIN !!! THAT is what is MEANT by the scripture," this is better than the sacrifice" ........ because THEN one is ABLE to LOVE LIKE GOD LOVES NOW .... because GOD HIMSELF IS LIVING IN THAT PERSON'S HEART NOW. A BORN AGAIN PERSON HAS A NEW NATURE WITHIN...AND THE HEART OF GOD BEATING WITHIN HIM NOW. IT IS ACTUALLY GOD LIVING WITHIN , WHO IS LOVING THRU THAT PERSON WHO IS BORN AGAIN. OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY ...BEHOLD... ALL THINGS HAVE BECOME NEW. AMEN. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 05:10 AM
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Once more...you think scriptures would actually be
speaking against ITSELF !!! You think Instead of just giving us the message ,or warning us of what is going on OUT THERE IN THE WORLD , you think scriptures is telling us that scriptures ITSELF comtains MYTHS and ERRORS. And also along with that ( regarding the scriptures you just now mentioned above ): you can't just pick that one scripture to make it say whatever you want, and then ignore the other scriptures that says you must be BORN AGAIN. Sorry... you can't just throw the scriptures away that mentioned Christ ultimate sacrifice for mankind,and call it myths or error. Like I said before, you would have to throw out the scripture that ALSO says Jesus was slain form the very foundations of the world !!! God's Word is not for picking and choosing whatever you want...and chucking what you don't want(and calling it error or myth cause you don't like what that particular Word has to say )... sorry bud....God's Word Doesn't work that way. This all is just toooo sad really. I can't help you any further. Only God can. This is why I feel it is best that I not reply to you anymore. |
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Topic:
Blood sacrifice
Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 03:45 AM
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Peter_pan....Scriptures says Jesus was slain from
the very foundations of the world. SINCE you think Jesus Ultimate Sacrifice of Himself as atonement for our sins is an error, then you will have to call ALL of God's Word error..including the scripture that Jesus was slain from the very foundations of the world !!! IF you call one part of scripture error, the whole of scripture then falls apart !!!! THAT is how finely woven together ALL of Gods Word is... IF you take one part of scripture out and call it error, it ALL would fall apart then. Please wake up, Peter_pan. |
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Topic:
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 03/12/12 03:49 AM
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Yes...there are scriptures that warn us of people
falling for myths and following after doctrines of men...... BUT ...THE ... BIBLE... DID... NOT... SAY... THAT... THE ...BIBLE... ITSELF ... CONTAINS... MYTHS... AND... THE... DOCTRINES... OF... MAN !!!!! AS YOU , PETER_PAN SEEM TO BELIEVE . And the only reason I even bother, is because it GRIEVES my heart to see how the enemy has sooo deceived you, along with many others today, into thinking God's Word actually contains errors !!!! Sadly, this is nothing but a slick TACTIC of the ENEMY to TURN as many people AWAY from GOD AND HIS WORD ,as much as possible. I mean, what better way for the enemy to turn people away from God and His Word, than to TWIST scripture , in order to to make it APPEAR that scriptures ARE SPEAKING AGAINST SCRIPTURES !!! what better way for the enemy to try and get back at The Most High God !!! Wow. How the devil BLINDS people into falling for his dirty tricky deception......and ONLY GOD can open peoples BLINDED eyes, and wake people up !!!! . |
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