OK, I agree. A regular, well-presented, public health message would be nice. Did the disparate health agencies say anything significant that totally contradicted the others? Did ANY of the health agencies advocate for Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine as effective treatments for Covid-19? Sure, President Trump suggested injecting disinfectants and UV light, but hopefully even you guys know to ignore that idiot's health advice.

I hear negative stuff about Biden all the time, since I have Conservative friends and family, and I read plenty of it here. You guys are exhausting, honestly. If I didn't respond to YOUR particular post, it's not because I'm deliberately ignoring YOU. Honestly, I post one thing on a thread, here, and get up to a half-dozen or more responses. Possibly because I don't come here every day to read and respond. Partially because the points you make may not justify a response. Sorry if that hurts your feelings (this is the Internet--get over it).

Also, if you're going to get upset that I defend Biden, then buckle up. This DISCUSSION section of this website basically invites exchange of ideas, and so I may have a counterpoint to what you have to say. Just because you're all "DEMOCRATS = BAD", doesn't mean I'm going to let it go. Sorry again, boopie.

Also, my mistake on the 9-year-old story point. The massacre that Biden claimed hear happened in 2006 (17 years ago) and I only read the dateline from the 2013 stories I found on Google.

Yes, an actual witness or any evidence would sure help Durham's case. All he's got now is an indictment where he says the guy lied about who he represented when reporting cybersecurity concerns to the FBI. Looks so week, I bet it gets dismissed before it goes to trial.

Amusingly, Trump apparently misread Durham's report (likely just heard Fox News describe it) and declared that it proves that Hillary spied on him (it doesn't) but Trump said it was "Robert" Durham, so maybe he was talking about some other guy.

Sure, but they've got nothing on Hillary. She and Bill have been in the spotlight for decades, so it's unlikely you'll find anything there. When she ran for President, she released decades of tax returns, and when subpoenaed by Congress, appeared as directed and sat to testify for eleven hours, which is a whole lot more transparent than Trump's criminal organizations. But yes, here's to the next Republican elected being a principled person!

Yeah, I guess having a single health policy spokesperson--someone trained in communication rather than just decades of experience working infectious diseases could probably help craft a more cohesive message. But understand that beside the CDC, there are the dozens if not hundreds of health agencies across the nation. In Florida, for example, the Surgeon General is a political appointee who cannot even admit that vaccines work, and you think you can corale their approach under the same guidelines as the Biden Administration? Good luck with that.

Also, CNN is not a far left network. Just far-left of Fox News, OANN and Newsmax.

Maybe but Durham is a political appointee of a political appointee, and even his "report" has few details as to what he's got, and it appears that he's making up crimes. So despite the title of this thread, it's very unlikely that Hillary Clinton can be charged for unsupported charges on imaginary crimes from a political hack making partisan noise to appease Trump.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a39080236/durham-report-donald-trump-worse-than-watergate/

It's not excuses. It's a relation, in that I've seen several people in real life swearing they saw or heard something because in their minds, they made that connection, like Biden's gunshots on the golf course, I've heard about imagined earthquakes and even plane crashes. You talk to the people afterwards, and they're as confused as anybody that they're wrong, once they make up their minds.

It's also comical how you keep coming back to this story from nine years ago. Hell, Trump spewed over 30,000 lies during his presidency, and Republicans are still repeating his lies. Tell me again Trump really won the election. Tell me about the "millions of illegal votes." Tell me Hillary will go to jail. That she committed treason. That she ran a child sex ring out of a pizzeria. I never heard that Biden claimed to hear gunshots in PA before this last week, because nobody really cares, but I guess that's all you've got. Sad.

Sure. It's about the individual freedom to screw up the economy, blocking $60 million of commerce each day, costing thousands of workers on either side of the border their pay from work lost. Yay. Freedom. Those jerks weren't about personal freedom. Just political terrorism.

Well I, for one am shocked. SHOCKED that different people in a profession can disagree on matters of public policy! Okay, not shocked. What is it you're confused about? Is it the changing guidelines on masks and distancing, and then the lengths of isolating? So you think they should make up their minds and stick to one plan, regardless of what the information tells them? Did you miss that we've had several variants of the virus, so far, that differ in severity and transmissibility?

Well, he is a politician, so lying would be on point, but that instance just looks like a case of misremembering his day of golf, hearing popping noises during his game and then later hearing about the shooting and connecting the two. But sure, Biden's a big, fat liar.

Would it put it to rest? Think Conservatives would just accept factual evidence that disputes their preconceptions? That would be a first.

I suspect that this site, unlike others, doesn't salt the message traffic with fake user activity, so the light traffic is a result of people being quiet. Conversations start other conversations, and most people aren't comfortable starting the conversation. That's just my guess.

I'm not, yet. Maybe never. I have a friend who has Bitcoin, since he bought in around $4,000, so his position is about 10x whatever he paid. Good for him, but I'm just not convinced it's a valid asset class.

Mental handicap is not really measured in a numerical scale, unless you mean for statistical analysis (Rasch model) where it's a percentage, and 6.7 would be more than three standard deviations above the mean, but yeah-no. Golf handicaps for men go up to 28, so 6.7 is really good. But thanks for playing.

Good one! Yeah, it's frustrating when new information leads the authorities to change their directions. Things were easier when we had the President who didn't like scaring people, so suggested drinking bleach, and taking his favorite drugs to treat Covid, like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. and he forbid the CDC from contradicting him and rejected plans to actually test anybody for viruses, and rejected helping the blue states. Let the Democrats die!

Sorry I didn't get to your questions sooner. I don't live on this website, and had stuff to do this week, but I'll answer you.

1. Yes, shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline was good. The pipeline was doomed to be an environmental mess, transporting Canadian tarsands through pipeline that was likely to leak and spill that oil all along, like their other leaks, and those companies never really pay the cost of cleanup, since it's government agencies who are stuck with the cleanup and management of the disasters.

2. Biden's pull-out from Afghanistan was a good move. The military evacuated 122,000 people from that country in the final weeks! Sure people died in the suicide bombing at the airport, but that's not even close the first deaths in Afghanistan in terrorist attacks, and if the US stayed, we'd have to send 30-50 thousand troops just to stabilize the mess from Pompeo's sell-out to the Taliban. Just from regular military operations, you could expect at least dozens of US deaths over the next couple years, and before more terrorists launch VBIEDs at our gates.

3. Southern border crisis? Yes, ending the separation of families and jailing migrant children was a crisis in a way, but even tens of thousands of immigrants at the border isn't really that alarming, compared to what's been happening over the past few decades. I don't see even 100,000 immigrants at the border as being a crisis, since the US was made up from immigrants. Immigrants from the Southern border continue to contribute to our economy, and unless you've got a better way to harvest the crops in the US, then I see them as crucial to our agricultural industry. That said, I'm not really following the "Southern border crisis" as I don't really care, but sure, Biden's doing OK, since he's not stealing $billions from the budget to seize land and destroy the environment to build a crappy wall.

My research is limited by the fact that I'm not a professional statistician or researcher. So where might one find those "THousands of healthy people" dying from the shots? Thousand of people have died after getting vaccinated, but with billions of doses received, even five thousand would be a fairly insignificant amount, percentage-wise. Saying those deaths were the result of the vaccine is suspicious, since people die everyday, and the vast majority of vaccinated people don't even get sick from the shot. The people at the front of the line for vaccination were those who were old and/or with underlying health conditions, so saying a 95-year-old woman died two weeks after getting the shot doesn't impress me.

Articles I've read, and anecdotal evidence from my friends and family in the medical industry (sister's a nurse in Texas, wife's friend is a doctor), the vaccines make people 45 times less likely to die from Covid. What have you got?

It's asinine, because the vaccine saves millions of lives and it's such a tiny shot. Protesting the vaccine is almost as dumb as people taking ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine instead. Such Idiots!

Meh. Nobody said Biden's an expert of Pennsylvania geography and hearing "gunshots" is like people in California "feeling earthquakes" when trucks drive by.

Whatever, he's not wasting nearly as much time playing golf as most recent presidents, and he passed that $trillion infrastructure law, so the lights are on in there.

Interesting that Trump allegations are being "proven false" (What's proven false?) while he sues to stop release of evidence or testimony wherever he can, while Hunter Biden doesn't do any of that. Nobody saying Trump is innocent are doing so under oath. Many are pleading the Fifth. Doesn't look innocent.