I made a trip to Lake-George, MY on this weekend and saw this ad at a rest-zone on Mass Pike: http://lh6.ggpht.com/sergey.dolin/SF8TPm7gr0I/AAAAAAAADHA/DI-FQSysr4A/IMG_0095.JPG saying about three children and a man had been lost.

Is it so usual in US what there's no much buzz around?

hm... In the Russia in the same cases all papers would start to write about this...

McCain is another Bush... Hah... But Obama looks like American Gorbachev. I hate the idea what my new country would be ruined by "changer" ad Soviet Union was.

If i were American i would have not vote for Obama just because i heard all what he says twenty years ago.

Hm. It is very (very-very) strange to hear from Americans about extra punishment after the previous punishment enforced by court. Don't you trust the jury make right solution?

> The problem was that when Russia was beaten we abandoned the Afghan people to the Taliban

It is not truth at all. Afgan people was not abandoned to the Taliban. They were forced.

From Russian point of view USA continued to destabilize south of Russia and were not satisfied with the strong and stable regime of the Northern Alliance.

> Hey, Hugo Chavez for president.

Or/and try to get out Russians from USA market. That is going on in USA since they have appeared here reassembles what was going on in Russia for last 10 years.

Looks like Exxon toke the lessons from LukOil.

They created a separated thread with many photos http://forum.moemnenie.info/forumdisplay.php?f=62 and English commentaries.

Enjoy :)

> Foot, Rosemary. “The Changing Pattern

I used to do not believe Americans professors - they layed too many times about what i have seen with my own eyes.

But you see real documents from the meetings of Soviet goverment stolen by Bukowsky.

>> Just a question "How many governments were in Afghanistan in 1979?"

>One! Russialaugh laugh laugh

And one "russian goverment" killed the other "russian goverment".

Well. By

I'm going to sleep and be prepared to hard work to earn green-card :)

> The second coup, initiated by the military in April 1978 with the help of thousands of Russian military advisors

Please, prove this statement.

In the My University Brezhnev "knew about the coup from papers"

Once again, don try to explain me what "communist puppets started civil war" - i knew it. But don't blame the SU support that barbarians. It became pain in ass for the Soviet. Like Columbia mafia which would take power in Mexico.

>They wanted access to the warm waters of the Indian Ocean for their Navy,

It is not-science fiction

> and to create a buffer state.

It is truth. So you came to what i stated from the start. No "communism" - just more or less stable regime. Any. Is what was bad for anybody?

> I stated that he was the legimate 'leader' of Afghanistan

Just a question "How many governments were in Afghanistan in 1979?"

> For our country, it means no funds,training and arms sent to the Afghan Arabs, which means U.S. intervention

Hm... You said what Soviet forced US to train those fanatics and terrorists? Correct?

I see no reason why US could not just wait while soviet troops set non-religious government in Afganistan and left the country? Well they obviously continued to support this government because SU needed some buffer between soviet republics Uzbekistan, Taghikistan, Kazahstan and new Islamic world.

From the other side if Soviet Union did not enter troops in Afganistan in 1979 it would have got the war in Taghikstan in 1981-83. And something said to me that Reigan anyway did what he did.

>> But this "communist coup" (ha-ha... i wander how many pages of Marx these "communists" had read in all their life) provided a good ground for islamist

> Does it really matter how many pages they actually read? The point is that it was a coup by a Marxist party over the acknowledged government. Soviets wanted in and the 'leader' in power took out their favorite.

Well, do you prefer Soviet choose a murderer Amin? :)

Once again. Soviet were happy with Daud. These so-called communist s made troubles to Soviet Union. You are absolutely right saing they are not popular against pupil.

> It is easy now to look at Bush and his pretense for Iraq but the same type of excuse was used by Soviet Union for Afghanistan.

No. Soviet Union defended its south border from Islamic influence (supported or used by US).

What Bush is doing in Iraq i just do not understand, but i has no right to blame it - it is your country and it is your president.

Let's imagine the Soviet Union did not enter its troops in 79. What could follow?

>> Stop at this point and think why are you calling Amin as "leader"? He is no more than just a killer.

> This doesn't say much for the Soviet troops

It does. You are assuming what Amin was the only and the legitimate ruler of Afganistan. But he did not.

So your point "Amin refused soviet troops" is not equals to "Afganistan goverment refused soviet troops"

Alas, you are wrong once again. "They" are on the same page as you :) I already explained why.



...because the world was as it was. When you was living in times of your country is ruined and another was born, and one lier changed another lier, you learn to do not believe any evidences and authorities from one side and to see all the colors of the world from the other.

Looks like it common error for many intelligence services. The Russian FSB (fomer KGB) trained and armored Shamil Basaev to fight against Georgia, but quite soon this chechen terrorist started to kill russians.

Ha! Be ready - Lukoil is coming!

I have not many practice in English so typing a little bit slowly :)

You are right at this point. But this "communist coup" (ha-ha... i wander how many pages of Marx these "communists" had read in all their life) provided a good ground for islamist. And Soviet leaders understood this.

Your error is to think what everybody who named himself "marxist" became "supported by SU". It was often, but Afganistan is not the case.

According to Marx' theory it impossible to establish communism in a non-industrial country.

All what SU needed was stopping Islamic influence on its south region.

Stop at this point and think why are you calling Amin as "leader"? He is no more than just a killer.