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The Chinese government created it in a lab.


Meanwhile, back in reality . . .

ABC News: "Sorry, conspiracy theorists. Study concludes COVID-19 'is not a laboratory construct'"

https://abcnews.go.com/US/conspiracy-theorists-study-concludes-covid-19-laboratory-construct/story?id=69827832


The "Culture War" is a propaganda war. That's if you don't know. I've been apart of the fight for years now.

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Those who show up to be treated, and can be helped, should be helped. Some are not going to be able to be saved, and they should have resources to be made as comfortable as possible like hospices for others in their last days. But those who have a fighting chance at recovery, which is most right now, should be treated.


Who gets to decide who has the ability to survive? I know of many cases where someone said there's no hope. Then someone else helped and that person lived.


The people who have the expertise in disease and illness maybe?



Not if that person's a nihilistic piece of trash. Which is what this is about.

People are brought up to be nihilists nowadays. Life has no value or meaning. This cuts to the quick for people like me. That's why I said what I did. Even if the only thing you can do is make a person as comfortable as possible and ease their pain, you do so.

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Sat 03/28/20 06:57 AM

I don't believe I've read any communist propaganda
I arrived at this theory on my own
I'm not saying it's true
How could we ever know
But after 9 / 11, are you seriously saying it's not a realistic possibility
Motive, and modus operandi and all


The Chinese government created it in a lab. One of the people working there got infected with it and spread it in the marketplace. Of cause that's just circumstantial evidence. Don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Politicians will take advantage of the Covid-19 outbreak to get up to shaddy sh't. The democratic socialists tried to take away States right for voting. That kind of stuff will probably happen in other countries too. The progressives want the "Dictatorial World Government." That's probably what you're noticing right now.

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Sat 03/28/20 06:37 AM
HINA PROPAGANDA

US Government Ramps Up Efforts to Counter Disinformation on CCP Virus

BOWEN XIAO

Federal agencies are ramping up efforts to counter an aggressive disinformation push by the Chinese communist regime surrounding the global pandemic by setting up new websites that separate fact from fiction.

A website titled “Coronavirus Rumor Control” was recently launched by the Federal

Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Department of Homeland Security “to help the public distinguish between rumors and facts.”

The site’s description states: “Do your part to the stop the spread of disinformation by doing 3 easy things; don’t believe the rumors, don’t pass them along, and go to


Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at the State Department in Washington on March 25, 2020.



trusted sources of information to get the facts about the federal (COVID-19) response.”

A Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email that they are also supporting FEMA with its website efforts,


We probably have external actors, countries who want to sow chaos within the United States, who are injecting some of this [disinformation] into the ecosystem. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper

adding that it was part of the “the whole of government approach in responding to the COVID-19 pandemic.” The website lists a number of myths that have been spreading and debunks them.

The Pentagon is also setting up a similar page on the Department of Defense website to debunk disinformation. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said on March 24 that the page will be called “Myth Busters” and will look into any disinformation and “knock them down.”

A defense spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email that the department hopes to have the website up by next week.

Esper made his remarks at a virtual town hall with other military leaders, stating that there are “multiple sources of disinformation out there.” He said the website will also try to allow people to submit rumors to check if they are true or false.

“We probably have external actors, countries who want to sow chaos within the United States, who are injecting some of this into the ecosystem, if you will,” Esper said, referring to the disinformation.

“In a crisis like this, the most important thing you can do ... is to put information out constantly, to be very transparent,” he said. “But at the same time, the converse of that is knocking down rumors, knocking down myths, knocking down disinformation, all those things that cause further churn and concern.”

Esper also directly addressed some rumors that had been spreading rapidly: “There has been no talk whatsoever of martial law. There has been no

talk whatsoever of mass quarantines of the United States or any of that other nonsense that is out there.”

The Epoch Times has reached out to other major federal agencies and asked them what they were doing to combat disinformation. The White House didn’t respond to a request for comment on what more the administration was doing on this front.

Meanwhile, in a press release after a virtual meeting with the the Group of Seven— Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States—on March 25, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said they discussed an “intentional disinformation campaign” by Beijing about the CCP virus, also known as the novel coronavirus.

The Epoch Times refers to the novel coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19, as the CCP virus because the Chinese Communist Party’s coverup and mismanagement allowed the virus to spread throughout China and create a global pandemic.

Pompeo said China is still delaying sharing information. He said the United States “desperately” wanted to work with every country around the world, including China, “to keep as many people alive, as many people as healthy, and then to restore our economies that have been decimated by the Wuhan virus.”

“ This is a continuing challenge. We still need good information from the Chinese Communist Party about what has taken place there,” he said.

The conspiracy theory pushed by Beijing that the virus originated in the United States was dismissed by Pompeo as “crazy talk” from some senior Chinese officials.

“But every one of the nations that was at that meeting this morning was deeply aware of the disinformation campaign that the Chinese Communist Party is engaged in to try and deflect from what has really taken place here,” Pompeo said.

The CCP’s aggressive global

disinformation campaign is primarily to deflect blame for its poor handling of the CCP virus, sow discord internationally, and to portray an image that the regime remains in control.

Chinese officials and state-run media have in recent times pushed conspiracy theories targeting the United States. Over the past few days, state-run Xinhua News has also promoted the hashtags “#Trumpandemic” and “#TrumpVirus” on its news posts on social media.

Robert Spalding, former senior director for strategy at the White House National Security Council, told The Epoch Times previously that the United States needs to actively counter such propaganda by refuting and calling it out within 24 to 48 hours.

“If there’s no response from the other side, then they [the CCP] can control the narrative,” said Spalding, author of “Stealth War: How China Took Over While America’s Elite Slept.”

Internal government documents from China obtained by The Epoch Times have highlighted how the regime purposefully underreported cases of the CCP virus and censored discussions of the outbreak, helping to fuel the spread of the disease. Reuters contributed to this report.


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@space .. I heard making threats on social media to shoot someone .. are being taken very seriously ... that would include targeting healthcare workers . pitchfork


Freedom of speech is being attacked all over the place. My comment is within the rights of the First Amendment. It's a hypothetical situation and is directed at no one in particular.

Although, the commie/fascists who are filled through America can throw me in jail. I don't care. It'll just prove that the human race is lost.
I think you will find there has been considerable change in social media regulations . Good luck in explaining that it was only hypothetical .


Like I said, "commie/fascists." I know about the culture war. The progressives want to cansel people. During any overthrow of a government Libertarian types are the first to be put against the wall and shot to death. Reason being is because we're troublemakers.

In other words. We say stuff that makes people think about things. Even stuff that pisses people off.

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Fri 03/27/20 11:32 PM

@space .. I heard making threats on social media to shoot someone .. are being taken very seriously ... that would include targeting healthcare workers . pitchfork


Freedom of speech is being attacked all over the place. My comment is within the rights of the First Amendment. It's a hypothetical situation and is directed at no one in particular.

Although, the commie/fascists who are filled through America can throw me in jail. I don't care. It'll just prove that the human race is lost.

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Fri 03/27/20 07:30 PM

Those who show up to be treated, and can be helped, should be helped. Some are not going to be able to be saved, and they should have resources to be made as comfortable as possible like hospices for others in their last days. But those who have a fighting chance at recovery, which is most right now, should be treated.


Who gets to decide who has the ability to survive? I know of many cases where someone said there's no hope. Then someone else helped and that person lived.

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Fri 03/27/20 06:18 PM
If anyone denied my parents health care because they're to old or some such nonsense, I'd put a very large caliber hole in them. Some of you might think that's not much of a libertarian think to say. Libertarians believe in liberty and justice. We don't subscribe to anything other then that in our political and social viewpoint.

How you teach a child justice is, "You earn what you get." Me planting someone for letting my parents die needlessly is third degree murder. So death is the sentence for such a crime. Oh, I could let the courts deal with it and most likely be railroaded. You also might say, "But what about those that person could've saved?" My reply would be, "What about the people they kill by not giving aid?"

I'd plead guilty and go to the galos. I'm not a loser who'd run-n-hide.

Here's what spurred me to post this.

War and Plague: Who Should Be Treated?

PAUL ADAMS

Governments everywhere are moving to a level of control over industry and civilian life normally seen only in wartime. Iran and Israel agree on little else, but both see themselves as engaged in an all-out war against the virus.

The analogy to war is a common way to convey a sense of urgency, whether it be a war on waste or plastic straws, or poverty. In this case, however, there’s a wartime level of threat to life, a comparable interference in everyday lives, an expansion of state control over the economy, and, as British historian Robert Tombs puts it, “the need to create feelings of solidarity: the willingness to be public spirited and to bridle our natural egotism.”

Here I want to consider how the analogy to war, a “total war” that mobilizes the whole society, is being used or misused in conditions where health care systems are overwhelmed and forced to deny treatment to some who might benefit from it.

As in battle, not all the wounded can be saved, and choices have to be made.

On a Wartime Footing

Comparisons to World War II and the “spirit of the Blitz” are common in Britain. It was a time when, in the national memory, Londoners withstood daily bombing with courage, determination, solidarity, and patriotism, and came to each other’s aid.

Government control extended beyond providing health care for those serving in the greatly expanded armed services. It was also a matter of how the state needed to organize industry to meet critical health care needs, to apportion and ration health care resources, not least but not only for those wounded in combat.

Both Prime Minister Boris Johnson and President Donald Trump are putting industry on something like a wartime footing. “In an unprecedented peacetime call to arms,” the Telegraph reports, Johnson “is asking manufacturers ... to transform their current production lines to help produce ventilators as part of a ‘national effort’ to tackle the virus.”

In the United States, Trump invoked the Defense Production Act of 1950, first used during the Korean War, so he would be able to mobilize the private sector to manufacture goods needed in the fight against the pandemic.

The Dark Side of War Talk

For Irish writer John Waters, war talk is dangerous. From early on, as the disease engulfed northern Italy and swamped health care resources, physicians and policymakers spoke of the need to make hard choices in treating the sick, of “triaging in favor of younger, more ‘productive’ virus victims.”

It is the language of prudent policy analysis, of making inescapable choices, and the common good. But it sounds reasonable, Waters argues, only because it reflects and reinforces a wider throwaway culture criticized by John Paul II and subsequent popes, a culture of death in which the weak and vulnerable are increasingly excluded from the human community.

John Paul II argued 25 years ago that we are facing “a war of the powerful against the weak: a life which would require greater

acceptance, love and care is considered useless.”

The culture, in short, is desensitizing us “by ‘training’ us to see illness as a kind of luxury, treatment as a concession, and the old as a separate category of the human. Because the old are increasingly hidden away from everyday society in purpose-built nursing homes, when we happen upon the old we are already beginning to look away from their frailty, and therefore their, and our own, humanity,” writes Waters.

The language of combat triage to exclude from care and treatment whole categories of people misunderstands and misapplies the process. Military triage prioritizes for treatment those most likely to be capable of returning to the battlefield. It’s a dynamic process in which a soldier’s priority can change rapidly according to his health status.

Military triage follows well-established protocols. It doesn’t prioritize sick soldiers on the basis of age. But age-based triage is what appears to be happening in Italy—as Waters demonstrates from many Italian sources. An Israeli doctor practicing in Parma, Italy, confirms Waters’s account. He reports from the front lines that the age for exclusion from critical care with ventilators is as low as 60. Rationing Is Inevitable in Health Care

But are there not rational and just grounds for prioritizing measures like vaccination and testing of health care workers, who put themselves at higher risk and without whose work hospitals would collapse into centers of spreading infection?

Or for giving lower priority in the use of scarce equipment to those who are very frail and in rapidly declining health? Are these not indeed the kind of prudential choices that a plague, like a war, forces on our attention, however firm our commitment to doing no harm and to healing the sick?

Capacity for providing critical care beds with ventilators varies widely from country to country. No health care system can avoid the risk of being overwhelmed and unable to provide all the care they would if resources were unlimited. As in battle, not all the wounded can be saved, and choices have to be made. The current situation is not so different from combat triage as Waters suggests.

The important objection to Italy’s response is not that physicians had to choose whom to provide with the best available care. That is true in all health care systems. We have deluded ourselves into thinking that health care is an unquestioned right in the sense of an open-ended claim on the state.

Resources are limited, so the question remains, what better way might exist for allocating them? By treating age as the determining criterion, the Italian system laid itself open to the kind of criticism it has received. It excludes the most vulnerable, a whole category of the population, from the protection of the community.

The UK’s National Health Service (NHS) has long experience of providing a universal health care system within a constraining budget. It has always had to ration health care, albeit through long waits rather than copays, deductibles, and caps. It regards rationing— denying a potentially beneficial treatment to a patient on the grounds of scarcity—as inescapable. But the UK, like Italy, has a universal health care system. The two countries provide an instructive contrast.

Resources are limited, so the question remains, what better way might exist for allocating them?

Faced with even fewer critical care beds, relative to population, the NHS has developed official guidance for physicians on how to decide whether patients suffering from the COVID-19 disease should be admitted to critical care or not. It has done so without mentioning age. The new NHS guidance is a dynamic triage system that relies on a Clinical Frailty Scale (CFS) and “algorithm” or decision tree for choosing a treatment plan. It takes into account patient wishes, underlying pathologies, comorbidities, and severity of acute illness. All without mentioning age.

The UK’s triage approach isn’t immune from the cultural context that Waters describes, and doesn’t resolve other issues concerning the NHS and end-of-life care. But it is a more considered approach within a system that faces, just a week or two away, the kind of overwhelming strain on its resources that Italy has suffered. Paul Adams is a professor emeritus of social work at the University of Hawaii and was a professor and associate dean of academic affairs at Case Western Reserve University. He is the co-author of “Social Justice Isn’t What You Think It Is” and has written extensively on social welfare policy and professional and virtue ethics.


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Thu 03/26/20 01:11 PM
"It is easy to hate and it is difficult to love. This is how the whole scheme of things works. All good things are difficult to achieve; and bad things are very easy to get."

CONFUCIUS

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Reality has a good way of kicking people in the teeth. We find ourselves dealing with a global problem. C-19 has a 1% mortality rate amongst those 65 and older, people who have heart+lung problems along with some other immune system problems. It doesn't seem to have an impact on children 15 and under. Although, a 14 year old boy did catch it. But women are giving birth to healthy babies even though the mother has it.

In the western world the mortality rate is getting this low because of medical care and the treatment for Malaria is showing to be a cure or at least a major reduction possibility. "Never let a good tragedy go to waste", is the saying when it comes to politics. Political power plays are being made by the so called "Democratic Socialist" (Fascist/Communist highbred), Eleatests (once called Robber Barons), Technocracy (science/tech corporations) and the others who are over shadowed right now.

Some are wanting to use C-19 to kill off those that it will to remove the burden of those people on society. Yes, there's the standard, "rip=off the tax payers". Everyone know that by now. By the summer this will be in the past. The question will be, "How much is the world f'cked-up?"



Part of the reason may also be people quarantined. There is no 'one reason' to pinpoint.



If you mean the spread of the virus, then yeah.

A ton of people came down to Florida which caused lots of people getting sick. The governor said anyone coming here from those states who have a high out break will be quarantined for 14 days. They may start charging people who comes to Florida with Covid-19 with attempted murder or reckless indifference. Reason? Because a large portion is over 65 and many people move here with medical problems that the weather helps.

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Wed 03/25/20 11:17 PM
Reality has a good way of kicking people in the teeth. We find ourselves dealing with a global problem. C-19 has a 1% mortality rate amongst those 65 and older, people who have heart+lung problems along with some other immune system problems. It doesn't seem to have an impact on children 15 and under. Although, a 14 year old boy did catch it. But women are giving birth to healthy babies even though the mother has it.

In the western world the mortality rate is getting this low because of medical care and the treatment for Malaria is showing to be a cure or at least a major reduction possibility. "Never let a good tragedy go to waste", is the saying when it comes to politics. Political power plays are being made by the so called "Democratic Socialist" (Fascist/Communist highbred), Eleatests (once called Robber Barons), Technocracy (science/tech corporations) and the others who are over shadowed right now.

Some are wanting to use C-19 to kill off those that it will to remove the burden of those people on society. Yes, there's the standard, "rip=off the tax payers". Everyone know that by now. By the summer this will be in the past. The question will be, "How much is the world f'cked-up?"

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Tue 03/24/20 09:02 AM
Just watched all 12 episodes of Goblin Slayer on YouTube-Movies and Shows. The Leftist weirdos were screeching about it and want to cancel it. Why? Because goblins rape and murder as they do. "You can't have anything bad happen to wahmans because they're perfect."

It's an anime (cartoon) which is pretty much just Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. For those of you who played that back in the 80s or like Sword and Sorcery, it'll be worth watching. The story is this guy seen his village slaughtered by goblins and he spends his life killing them.

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Mon 03/23/20 04:01 PM
"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."

CARL JUNG

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Fri 03/20/20 05:20 AM
"If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid.”

EPICTETUS

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Thu 03/19/20 08:38 PM
"One person with a belief is a social power equal to ninety-nine who have only interests."

JOHN STUART

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Just read that The coming retirement of those from the Baby Boomer generation (1946-1965) will leave a hole in the workforce of 40%. Those in the construction industry are finding it near impossible to get gen Y (1986-2005) and Z (2006-2025) kids to take up jobs doing the work. Generation X (1966-1985) are the bulk of the labor force now.

Bunch of little snowflakes who have to be praised for doing their job. Participation awards and such has destroyed their self esteem along with self respect. "Stop standing around and move your ***! You're burning daylight!" Such a thing if said to them (as was to me) would make them melt. Things are to hard for them so they run from it.

Of cause I know there's some good kids out there who aren't pansy-boys. They shoulder the weight of responsibility of themselves and those they care for. None of us are as tough as nails. But we have to be as close as possible, because there's a lot of bad coming down that pipe we have to deal with.

Here's the article I read.
NATION

Construction Industry Faces Challenge of Changing Work Ethic

CARA DING

DYERSVILLE, Iowa—Lucas Treangen grew up on a dairy farm in Waukon, Iowa.

From the time he was 13, he would get up at 5:30 in the morning to milk 65 cows, and then do it again after school.

He bought his first vehicle, a used Chevy pickup, with money he saved from milking cows on his neighbors’ farms as well.

“I think it’s wonderful my parents raised me with a strong work ethic,” he said.



Construction Industry Faces Challenge of Changing Work Ethic

CONTINUED FROM A1

Treangen, 30, now works at a welldrilling company in a rural part of eastern Iowa. He is one of the “farm boys” on the team, as Gary Shawver would say. Shawver is the company’s president, and he lauds “farm boys” as having the best work ethic.

But they’re getting harder to find.

“If there are farm boys, they either stay on the farm or go to a city and get a 40-hour-a-week job,” Shawver said. His company, the name of which he preferred not to share, has room to expand. But “finding people that want to go out and do hard, dirty work is extremely difficult,” he said.

His experience reflects that of the U.S. construction industry in general. The work pays fairly well, and the young people who stick with it often find it rewarding in many ways, not the least of which is financially. The industry is ready to expand, as is Shawver’s company—if only it can find young people to replace its aging workforce.

Workers Needed

About 75 percent of construction companies plan to hire in 2020 to meet strong demand—and most of them are having trouble filling positions—according to a recent survey by The Construction Association.

More than 40 percent of construction workers will retire in 2026, with the median age of workers having steadily climbed over the past few decades to 43 in 2019, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics and an analysis by the National Center for Construction Education and Research.

And interest in construction work among young people is at an all-time low.

High-Paying Jobs

Louis Taylor, whose family owns Taylor Construction in eastern Iowa, told The Epoch Times his grandson made $28 per hour working for the company as a college student about a decade ago. He made $25,000 in a summer.

He asked many friends to join him, but there were few takers.

Shawver said his company trains workers from the ground up. It’s not a job you need to spend thousands of dollars on tuition to get into, and you don’t need to spend years in college. There’s also room for advancement in the company.

Treangan is on his way to becoming a senior driller, which could earn him a salary of up to $75,000 plus benefits, insurance, and vacation.

More than 40 percent of construction workers will retire in 2026, with the median age of workers having steadily climbed over the past few decades to 43 in 2019.

Half of U.S. construction workers earn more than $47,000 annually, compared to the national median salary of $38,000, according to a 2018 analysis by the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB). The top-tier salaries in construction are also higher than those in many other industries.

But almost half of the young people surveyed by NAHB in a 2017 poll responded that they remain uninterested in construction work—even if it were to pay upwards of $100,000 annually.

The top reasons were that it’s too physically demanding, and it’s too difficult.

“Working hard is good for you. You have a sense of pride,” T.C. Murphy told The Epoch Times.

Murphy paid off his university degree by working summers in construction. His father was in construction, too, and Murphy grew up helping with his father’s side projects, such as fixing fences, repairing equipment, or remodeling garages.

“When it’s all said and done, actually it feels a lot better than just kind of sitting around,” he said. “I see more and more kids kind of sedentary, instead of being hands-on.”

He said his work ethic has affected his professional life, and has also made him a better father and husband.

He graduated from the University of Wyoming in 2009, debt-free thanks to his work for a paving

company while he was a student. He’s now a father of three and the general manager and co-owner of a company in Casper, Wyoming, that manages traffic safety around construction sites.

His people are the first to arrive at the construction sites and the last to leave. Like Shawver, he likes to hire farm boys.

“It’s wonderful if you can get them, because they already have that work ethic, you know? And they’re not afraid to get their hands dirty,” Murphy said.

Why Young People Aren’t Starting in Construction

A fear of getting one’s hands dirty isn’t the only reason some young people aren’t entering the construction industry.

Sometimes, it’s their parents who object, Taylor said.

“My little Jodie can’t do that; it’s too dangerous,” he joked.

Susanna Jakubik, marketing manager for I Build America, told The Epoch Times that sometimes parents will think, “I want you to have a better life. I don’t want you to be like your grandpa who was working construction. I want you to go to medical school.

“Well, you know what? Little Johnny may not be set up for medical school. He might be the perfect welder or the best welder they could ever have. And he can make $100,000 by the time he is 30,” Jakubik said.

Many young people simply cannot pass the drug test in the application process, Taylor said.

Shawver says he’s also noticed some roadblocks.

He said only about 3 or 4 out of every 10 applicants has a clean driving record, which is a prerequisite for the must-have commercial driver’s license. He said in the ‘80s or ‘90s, about 8 out of 10 applicants would have a clean record.

He believes the reasons are twofold. While the laws are getting tougher, he thinks today’s young people are just partying more.

He’s seen some young employees lose their commercial driver’s licenses after a night’s fun with alcohol; they subsequently lost their jobs.

“It’s going to get worse until the moral fiber of our country decides to change,” Shawver said. “No legislation, no Trump, or anybody else can solve that except the American people. And they’ll have to turn back to God to do that.”

Millennials Versus Baby Boomers

Millennials are more focused on lifestyle than previous generations, according to a study by Terri M. Manning, director of the Center for Applied Research at Central Piedmont Community College in Charlotte, North Carolina.

They enjoy time with friends and are as invested in their leisure activities as they are in their career activities, which is a dramatic change from the work-focused baby boomers.

Half of U.S. construction workers earn more than $47,000 annually, compared to the national median salary of $38,000, according to a 2018 analysis.

“The baby boomer generation, they would bank their vacation time year after year after year,” said Lon Albert, president of Reece Albert Inc., a heavy construction company in western Texas, in an interview with The Epoch Times. “The young generation, we don’t have that issue. Because they do want to take their [vacation] time.”

Attracting Young Workers

Albert’s company is trying to figure out how to connect with millennials. “We have to ... really tell our story better,” he said. The company is planning to buy some equipment simulators, put them on a mobile platform, and bring them to high school career fairs.

“If they’re into video games, they’re really going to be into this.”

Caleb Kattner, a regional vice president for Reece

Albert, likes to figure out what motivates an employee and then tailor his communicationstyle to every individual, young or old.

For millennials, he said they respond better if you let them figure out their own way of doing things; they like the challenge.

Baby boomers, on the other hand, like to be told how to do it. Millennials also want to be told they’re doing a good job. The older generation thinks more along the lines of, “I did my job; I don’t need to be told that I did a good job,” Kattner said.

Skipping Shop Class

“We’re really dealing with a decades- old narrative that, unless you go to college, you are not successful in America today,” Greg Sizemore, vice president of workforce development at Associated Builders and Contractors, told The Epoch Times.

He wants to see a return of career and technical education, also known as “career tech ed” or CTE, at high schools and middle schools. Shop class helped him develop the know-how to enter the manual workforce right out of high school.

Starting in the 1980s, CTE declined because of additional academic course requirements, declining funding, and a growing favor toward four-year-college degrees, according to a Brookings report.

The Trump administration is making efforts to redevelop CTE, hoping to bridge the workforce gap.

“Construction is the best kept secret in America. People take it for granted,” Sizemore said. “Nothing in any society occurs without construction occurring first.”


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104F is when you need to apply cold compresses or the classic washcloth in cool water and, put it on their forehead to draw out the heat. Could take hours of doing that before the fever drops or breaks.
only if you wish to induce peripheral vasoconstriction .. shivering and discomfort .

There is little scientific evidence that applying a “cold “ cloth reduces fever and can in fact be contraindicated .

A “tepid “ cloth might temporarily give some comfort but is unlikely to reset core temp regulation .

In most cases ... a temp greater than 38.5 should be medically assessed to determine cause and recommended treatment waving

Your brain starts to boil like an egg. If you don't remove the heat you'll get brain damage. 105F will kill a person if the fever goes to long. Using a cloth in cold water applied to the forehead does remove heat. You need to rinse and replace every minute-n-half. Ice packs are way better. In the hospital They put you in a bath tube and pore ice on you.

Yes, this is ancient medical techniques that modern medicine says to ignore. So you can ignore anything I say.




you may be surprised to hear this but hospitals have specialised cooling blankets..

ice baths ??? where are you getting your information from ???

If you had something worthwhile to Contribute I would not ignore it :wink:


As I said, "This is anchant." Only the new and improved stuff matters today. If it's not sold by a big corporation it's no good. Everything I learned about nursing comes from the Dark Ages of modern medicine when things didn't come in a plastic bag. Things like a WW1 EKG machine and such I learned to operate. So what I know is void.

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Tue 03/17/20 01:50 PM


104F is when you need to apply cold compresses or the classic washcloth in cool water and, put it on their forehead to draw out the heat. Could take hours of doing that before the fever drops or breaks.
only if you wish to induce peripheral vasoconstriction .. shivering and discomfort .

There is little scientific evidence that applying a “cold “ cloth reduces fever and can in fact be contraindicated .

A “tepid “ cloth might temporarily give some comfort but is unlikely to reset core temp regulation .

In most cases ... a temp greater than 38.5 should be medically assessed to determine cause and recommended treatment waving

Your brain starts to boil like an egg. If you don't remove the heat you'll get brain damage. 105F will kill a person if the fever goes to long. Using a cloth in cold water applied to the forehead does remove heat. You need to rinse and replace every minute-n-half. Ice packs are way better. In the hospital They put you in a bath tube and pore ice on you.

Yes, this is ancient medical techniques that modern medicine says to ignore. So you can ignore anything I say.




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Tue 03/17/20 07:15 AM
Eat an apple, drink a glass of water and walk for 20 minutes non-stop in the sunlight. It will allow your body to extra the vitamins from the apple, get your body to generate vitamin D and have your blood pump to remove the settiment (toxins) so you can evacuate them.

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Tue 03/17/20 06:53 AM
May you be in heaven, a half hour before the devil knows you're dead.
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