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Sat 04/19/08 09:32 PM
Edited by Drew07_2 on Sat 04/19/08 09:40 PM
What follows was written almost seven** (oops) years ago. It was fiction at the time--but in some ways I've grown to be a part of my writing. Honest.




The Anti-hero


What is a hero? Whatever it is--exposed as Reader’s Digest labels the “monthly example”-- I am sure of only one thing: I fall short. I do not live in the memory of the masses as a pained face of determination carrying a small bloodied body from the ashes and metal of New York City. I have never run the stairs of a burning building, or lifted an overturned car off someone drifting toward the silent beyond. My face has never been splashed across the blue screen, fit for consumption by an obsequious public, as they break bread but never the mold of disinterest.

My mind often filled with bucolic images of what I should want to be until the alarm clock rings flat. I am the son of a hero, the father of no one, and the product of heroes too numerous to mention. My past is blemished with the derision of my attempts to be a hero, my longing to be what I am not, and the vigilante pain that comes from knowing--not thinking--but knowing that some die far short of living.

I am the anti-hero, my life lacking élan, my impact lacking popular importance. I am sometimes scared, nervous, and unimpressive. Pulling up along side of death’s scoreboard totals, I see the freshly dug graves; the rugged and austere graves of those far greater. How I have longed to be them, and oh how I have failed. Those I mention are the ones who gave all, who ignored fear, fire, and reason. I speak of those who knowing they were going to die, did, and did so without the romantic blanket of “fate.” Oh, do not be fooled, cowards die and are labeled heroes--their anechoic whispers never heard. But what are we to make of those in whom rich and redolent poems are crafted? Are we to honor their memory? Perhaps their memory; but history's footprint is a much scarier master.

But what of the anti-hero? I do not want to tell you too much; it is far too personal. I am not generation anything. I understand the pathos of those I can truly see. I see the pogrom, but not the tears. I have no desire to wear the hero’s shoes, yet, I cannot bring myself to polish them either. An honest look inward reflects the pyre of my attempts to become what I am not. Too frightened to be insecure, I feel more than most. I blame when I am hurt, and lash out at the sky. I cannot sustain the magic and peacefulness of the lea, but would be crushed to find it missing. I am two sins away from a state of perdition and one away from caring.

I see the good in others, but not in relation to me. I know that deep down I am a good man, but deep down is a fractured place, and while the good lay there, so do the monsters. The lascivious creatures that tell me all is lost that the darkness will never be broken, that the light is an illusion. You see I believe the monsters, at times. I trust them because they give me excuses, and I understand excuses.

I am the anti-hero. Do you know me? Do you see me? Do you think you might be a little like me? Very well, but it takes honesty. It takes knowing that you may not be able to live a life that would would make the optimistic masses overtly proud. It takes knowing that the answers are not nearly as tough as the questions. It takes giving up your torpid shame, and instead celebrating it. It takes being, and it takes apathy. Apathy, the snooze bar of life is how we de-construct with dignity. Apathy is not nobility, but neither is being a hero. Heroes too often live with our minds, in good company, while their children sleep as orphans. A hero’s credit report is never next to the picture of the drowning victim he saved. A hero is not immortal. If heroes are keeping heaven safe then I want to be with the anti-heroes.

I want to be with those who screamed awake the night, trembling, warm breath melting cold lies. I want to curl up next to one who has felt the pain of loss and the emptiness of gain. I want to sit next to the kid in class with the black eye, earned because he was different. I want to dance with the ugly girl in the corner, because she has the courage to wear her beauty on the inside. I want to walk with the cowards who ran--who did not stay to fight. I owe them a chance to share their side of the story. I want to hug the old man whose wispy white hair bears the age of his anger, as he dies alone, loveless, save for Mistress Morphine. I want to understand the weak, and those who live alone. I want to wipe away the tears with and never let go of the embrace. I want to find the syncopation in the waves of life and crash through them with the person who cannot swim. I want to protect those without a voice and lend a voice to those scared of conviction.

I want to love the loser, the loser who knows he is a loser and yet still displays the courage of his fortune.

I am the anti-hero. I can be found in the back of the room. Quiet, unassuming, full of self. I am not going anywhere. I am the christ without a father, the Cobain without Nirvana, and the artist without desire. Do you know me?



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Sun 04/13/08 02:39 PM

It's not hard to make the Nazi connection with Dubyah. It is, after all in his family history.
Just take a look at some of the things he's done, starting with thinly veiled anti-Constitution PDD's and EO's. They're eavesdropping on everyone, He's pushing hard to get his RealId, which is supposed to have an RFID chip in it. How long, from the passing of this, to the first time one of us hears "Got your Papers?" I know, I know, it's not papers, it's a bit of plastic, overlayed with a magnetic strip and a tracker chip stuck inside of it, with a clear plastic protective coating, but the malice behind it is the same.

How many millions of lives have been destroyed because of Bush Co. Policies? I don't just mean Muslim ones, which Neoconservatives seem to see as less than human, but in Nations all around the world?
Need I remind you that our Government too, has it's secret prisons or that they hired Markus Wolf, former head of the Stasi to "help" with homeland security, and While you're talking about Comrades, nothing sounds more Socialist than a department named Homeland Security, just saying it makes me want to drink vodka.

Leaving all the Bush family nazi/Globalist history to one side, ask yourselves who is going to pay back the hundreds and hundreds of Billions of dollars that this Administration keeps borrowing from Japan, Saudi and China? Last I checked we were beyond broke. Unless of course you count the Fed printing more unbacked dollars to hand out to save their member banks and consolidate more of this Nation into the hands of the few.
Hmmm... Multinational Corporate banking institutes, who have the power to create,bolster, destroy and manipulate our currency holding hands with our Federal Government...
Fascism= A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Other elements of fascism include:

Powerful idea of nationalism
Powerful executive control in government
Lower human rights outlook
Military reigns supreme
Corporations wield great power
Idea that National Security is at great risk to some threat, internal or external
Identifying of enemies/scapegoats that unifies citizens in Patriotism
Mass media controlled by State and Corporations
Fixed elections
Rampant corruption
Unlimited power held by police force
Honest opinions, how many of these fit our current situation? Leave the left/right pandering at the door and be honest.


Riiiight--and yet Democratically controlled Congress just sits back and lets him do this--no one draws up impeachment papers? Comparing Bush to the Nazi's is actually not a new line--it was actually more popular a few years ago, but I suppose it will still do to some extent. The problem with it is that it just makes people turn off the channel. Do you think that in Nazi Germany you could have bashed Hitler's policies, even for a moment? You've read your history--go back and look at what happened to people who even dared to speak out against the Reich. Now, if you suddenly disappear and the official story doesn't sound right--I'll be the first to hire Alex Jones to look in to it. Until then, when the coffee is too strong don't be surprised when people look for something to cut it.

-Drew

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Sun 04/13/08 02:22 PM
I watched Zeitgeist, movie linked on this page and while I found Part I dealing with religion to be very well done and interesting the slippery slope in to 9-11 being an inside job is just too much. Not too much as in (gee, I can't handle the truth) but too much as in (wow, please make sure to keep the meds coming--the little blue pill seems to work really nicely.)

Conspiracies make us feel better--and they are always on the scale of the tragedy. From Lee Harvey Oswald (it just couldn't be one guy who took away our President) to 9-11 (there just CAN'T be factions of Islamic extremists who hate you just for being you) it is really about the same.

But a more obvious test (at least as it relates to 9-11) is why such conspiracies seem always to be drawn along political lines. Why didn't the 1993 bombing of the WTC prompt a film like Zeitgeist? Power was in place then, the same culprits (men of Middle East decent) were blamed, and lives were lost. Why? Because Bill Clinton was in the White House in 1993. Political conspiracy theorists talk about opening our eyes to truth about not hiding our heads in the sand and then go on to ignore the 1993 attacks completely. Why is it an inside job when it's GWB in the White House and not when Bill Clinton is in the White House?

For the answer you need not look far--just far enough to gaze down political lines. During Zeitgeist it was Rudy G, the VP and GWB who were quoted using the word "terrorist" over and over. Why not any clips of Democrats back in 93 who were saying the same things?

The truth here doesn't require a film. The men who attacked the WTC in 1993 did not succeed in taking down the towers. They learned and on September 11, 2001 they fixed that mistake. Had the election gone differently, had Al Gore been in office that morning I submit that the towers would have indeed fallen but that he would not have been blamed. No one would have suggested Al Gore responsible because he wouldn't have been. Conspiracies make us feel better--they give us a nation to be pissed off at and they give some people reason go off about War Crime prosecution. But only if you are a Republican.

Anyway, interesting film, at least the first part.

-Drew

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Sun 04/13/08 11:37 AM
Cool profile moniker.

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Sun 04/13/08 11:35 AM
You know, it was beyond classless that this post topic was put in the Religion Chat forum. I'm one of the people who comes over here and often argues and debates with religious people so the content here is not offensive to me in the least. But...there is a "Sex and Dating" site in the community and there is the General Forum and it seems to me that coming to the Religious Chat section to ask the members if there are any Virgin Mothers that one would like to screw is just, Oh, I don't know--either a massive plea for attention, a complete inability to read, or, wait for it.....just being purposefully disrespectful.

-Drew

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Sun 04/13/08 11:20 AM

God and Jesus either heals the sick or they don't ..what good is faith in God if there is no faith that God will heal ..if God doesn't heal then isn't it a reason why in his Divine plan so isn't going to a Doctor an indication that you actually have no faith in God or faith in his Divine plan ..

it is said that they are no "atheists" in a fox hole ...so do that means that there are no "believers" in the hospital


So where is the line? Is going to a grocery store an lack of faith that God will just "bring" you food? Is wearing a seatbelt lack of faith that God will protect you should you hit an 18 wheeler at 70 mph? Is wearing a life preserver lack of faith when out boating for the day?

To be sure God asks people to have faith. But presumably he motivates some minds to practice the art of medicine. Those folks could have helped this girl. Again, she needed insulin, something we all HAVE to have to live.

No, it's not showing a lack of faith if a person goes to the doctor--it does however (in this case) show a lack of common sense. If God wanted people to ignore minor medical issues like this then kids the nation and world over would be dying of the simplest things--and for no good reason at all.

-Drew

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Sun 04/13/08 02:18 AM

True True. and it cost more then just money right. I hate my job and glad im gettin out soon.


Wiccancowboy:

Thank You!

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 11:25 PM
Welcome mdt. Hope you enjoy it here.

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 11:18 PM
I thought that odd behavior could be squarely placed before the effects of the vernal and autumnal equinoxes.

huh

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Sat 04/12/08 10:53 PM

I cannot BELIEVE the way some of you are reacting to this information! it is public information, yet you still refuse to acknowledge it as such! and why would you attack a man who albeit not obvious, loves americans enough to keep trying to wake you up with your same selfish reactions ever single time!? there is nothing, NOTHING wrong with cutting and pasting articles(as long as they are short enough for all of us to readlol) to relay information, the technology is there, it's more efficient for communicating, why not!?..because it can be used to verify the information(if you have enough balls to look it up!)noway


I read every link posted here, hell I even watched that "New World Order" video link that WarElephant posted a few days ago. I thought it was rather funny and I thought Alex Jones was a bit odd but the point is, I do look it up and it doesn't take courage to do so. For me I guess it's just that I want to know what you think, not what some guy from an online publication thinks--I like the conversation to be about ideas from a place more personal than to cut and paste. Perhaps you think that's wrong of me, but I'm prepared to live with that--it's just mu opinion.

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 10:17 PM

You know it's very evil, right?


Slashing prices....


So much space. It's... a nightmare.


I don't really mind the idea (I mean, if the public really cared about those working for four M&Ms a day to make them a shirt Wal-Mart would have closed a long time ago) of Wal-Mart--but what is with the family reunions that take place in the middle of damn near every aisle I need to travel. And then when I rudely attempt to navigate through the maze of kids and adults I'm glared at like I've just wandered in to the middle of their living room.

I don't know--it's just odd.

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 09:53 PM
I have never thought that anyone owed me a response to an e-mail. If I say hello and don't hear back that's life in the NFL. Just because we have the option to say hi doesn't mean someone has an obligation to respond. Perhaps there are legitimate reasons--who knows--but I would never consider them a jerk simply because I don't hear back. And doesn't the belief that I'm owed a response sort of make me the arrogant one?

Anyway--good luck.


-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 09:34 PM

Just because others do not feel they need to speak out on it, doesn't mean there are alot of people who realize they were bamboozled into war in Iraq. I knew the day we did not go after bin laden and Saddam became the target that we were headed the wrong direction but there was alot of snow jobs on the American people so I cannot blame them too much for not thinking for themselves.

We should have bin laden, we should not be removing dictators without the people of the country asking us to do so. We should not be democricizing countries (especially since the people who favor the war tell us we are not even a democracy so WTF???).

The rose colored glasses of those who cannot see the Bush administration for the economically biased, personally biased, bigoted group that they are, will come off one day soon and it is not a pretty picture without the glasses clouding itnoway huh


Ahhh, so now they are also a bigoted group? First, bigotry is really not on topic so you might be getting a note from Madison but second (and really this is becoming a bit of fun) check out the ethnic diversity of the Bush White House as opposed to the Clinton White House. And Dragoness, part of being political is being biased. Voters don't pick presidents because of objectivity but rather for their subjectivity.

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 09:13 PM
If it takes someone more time to decide what to have for breakfast than it does to decide if they want to have a relationship with someone then we should hardly be surprised that we have a bit of a divorce problem in this country.

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 08:37 PM
Edited by Drew07_2 on Sat 04/12/08 08:59 PM
MorningSong--

Thanks for the reply. As someone who was once very much a member of Christianity I struggled with a number of issues. What became problematic for me was that when my inquisitive mind got together with my curious nature asked a few too many questions the fall-back stance was always--"Well, Andrew, you just have to have faith." What strikes me as odd about that equation was that at the time, I DID have faith. And still the answers never came.

I could not understand why a loving God felt the need to allow his Son to be tortured and impaled on a cross. I can't imagine a father alive today who would ask this of his son let alone his only son.

I could not understand why a loving God would heal the blind but not cure blindness, feed the hungry but not do away with famine and ask his followers to find abortion abhorrent while not sparing people the pain of miscarriages.

I did not have what it took to be so sure that the Christian Way was the only way. Muslims and many who practice Judaism feel equally strong about their way and while practitioners of Judaism are strictly forbidden from trying to convert non-Jews the same cannot be said of those practicing Islam. How could a God so large, so big, and so loving allow such a tragically small road on which to travel to a blissful afterlife?

I could never understand a God that needed to be praised without end for doing what I can only presume came rather naturally to Him.

I could never understand the math--the equation that made death the penalty for not accepting a "gift."

I could never understand a guide to being a decent father that required the creation of a place like hell. A place where thirst is never quenched but where fire consumes, where torment and anguish are present without pause. One moment spent thinking about such a place is a waste of a moment. One moment spent creating it is simply sadistic.

I could never understand how Adam sinned in the first place. From where did Adam find the ability to do wrong when he had not yet been exposed to the mechanism (tree) that would allow him to do wrong? Furthermore, I could not understand how one mistake (this in light of fully realizing that humans would make thousands) cost so much. People don't hold those types of grudges. God does--we are in fact commanded not to.

I could never understand how slavery (though more "acceptable" in Biblical times) was never condemned in the New Testament as cruel and unusual and the denial of basic freedoms no matter the race/creed of the people or the location of the practice.

"Believe and you will see" is what people are asked to try. But I never got that. You would dismiss that logic entirely if when buying a home or a car or even a TV someone said to you" "Pay, and you will enjoy."

There are more but I'll sign off for now. I did not pull these from an anti-Christian site or anything of the sort. These are my questions, questions that I have asked, questions I asked when I believed, and they are warm-up questions. I've investigated with an open heart and mind the idea of the sacrifice, of the only begotten Son, of the guilt handed me for an act I was not alive to be responsible for.

I don't mock religion. If I were to go to your church tomorrow as a visitor I would dress for the occasion. I would be polite and I would never embarrass someone as a result of their belief. I am not threatened by religion nor am I beholden to its more cynical customs and beliefs. Above all I am not free to do whatever I would like simply because I'm not entranced by a systematic religious belief. I don't mind being held to a higher standard; what I mind is being held to a lower one. I dismiss the notion that someone in my position cannot be gentle, kind, and loving. I am a good friend, a good son, a good brother, and a good uncle. And while entirely capable of being a jerk, am equally capable of apologizing for actions that I know are wrong. But not out of guilt, not out of a fear that in the back of my mind that creates in me a belief that my failure to do so will cast me out of the favor of God.

I am not tragically human nor am I cynically created. I was given a mind capable of compassion and prose, of love and tears of being secure and unsure and of belief in doubt. In that this is the mind God gave me I can hardly think of a valid argument or reason (though Chesterton would disagree) for the result of its exercise being eternal separation from that which made me as I am.

Christianity asks us to believe in absolutes but to do so using less than absolute faith.

That I do not understand.

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 07:10 PM
Edited by Drew07_2 on Sat 04/12/08 07:12 PM

I supppose drew that if you wish to speak about democrats who supported the war you should start your own thread. but in that regard It was not the Dems who led the charge for war in Iraq or constantly manipulated things to make the idea of war seem logical. Mainly I dont respond to your twistings is that you try to draw things off topic and the topic of this thread is about the repulican war criminals who lied ovrr and ovrr again and the media silence on the fact that everything they said to sell the war turned out to be false


Oh Madison, please. The title of the thread was "They Lied". The premise of that was that Bush and company lied about Iraq and lied about our reasons for war and lied about just about everything having to do with this. So, with that in mind I posted a slew of quotes that REFUTE that premise. How is it that you think that belongs in a different post? Why shouldn't a person be able to refute a statement or argue a position against it? Are you suggesting that everyone who came in to comment after seeing "They Lied" should be required to check their thoughts and opinions at the door and with a wink and a nod, simply agree?

I stayed right on topic here Madison but it wasn't what you wanted to hear. I did not twist anything you said nor have I ever done that to a post topic here. What I have done is made a perfectly relevant point arguing against a "theory" you have posited that GWB lied. That my doing so bothers you is fine, had you chosen simply not to respond that also would have been cool. But to argue not against my position intellectually but from the standpoint of it having gone off topic is really just a bit sad.

Telling me that my contributions to this thread have been off-topic as a way to avoid dealing with a refutation of your premise doesn't make it so any more than accusing Bush of lying makes it true.

-Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 04:37 PM




now lets all have a big group hug :heart: :heart: :heart:


kiss and make up flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou :heart:


laugh

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Sat 04/12/08 04:23 PM
Edited by Drew07_2 on Sat 04/12/08 04:26 PM






Lindyy says:

madman, I cannot believe you are still going around with your head sunk in the sand.

Let me refresh your memory - President George W. Bush is NOT running for President again.

Please, get a life.sick


Lindyy


We are all aware that Bush is not running for president but many of us feel he is a war criminal and after the rapeing of our nations treasury for the Iraq war swindel many of us think he should not get off the hook. This man should be haunted to his grave for his crimes agains humanity and the crimes he commited against his own people.


Hey Madison, perhaps you'll find the time to answer the post in which I pointed out a number of Democrats and their sincere belief long before President Bush was elected that Saddam had bio/chem/and even a nuclear program going. As far back as 1998 the same group that now claims they were "lied to" were saying EXACTLY what GWB went to war over. In this case the only difference is that while Dems believed that Saddam was a massive threat back then they didn't feel the need to do anything about it.


-Drew





I wouldnt hold you breath drew. You got him back against a wall and he knows it. Besides he's to bussy acting superior right now. Guess what madman, yes there are many people that think gw should be tried as a war criminal, but guess what you and the rest of those people are in the minority. I may not like the guy but at least he had the balls to step up and do the job that needed to be done when everyone else was unwilling to do it. As for losing more troops in iraq than on 9/11. We loose guy's becouse we are conducting what the polititions call a humane war. We are making sure we dont compleatly distroy the place in the process. If all we wanted was to conquer the county and take there oil, as so many have claimed, I have one word for you MOAB. Look it up some time. The simplest way to understand what this thing does is think of a nuke without the radiation. all we would have to do is drop a few of these and that would eliminat a large amount of the populated portions of the country. But on the other hand we would be sacrificing countless civilians. So we take the high road and put our men and woman in harms way so we can keep civilian casualties as low as possible.


A fair and valid point. You know what else just kills me here? Where were all of the "we hate dictators" crowds when Saddam was gassing the Kurds in northern Iraq? Some people here have no trouble participating in calling GWB everything from a liar to a warmonger but you'd think that sprinkled in for flavor would be a few posts condemning those who rape, torture and murder people (and were doing so for decades) people like Saddam. I wonder if there are any posts here at all that even mention that? Again, I won't hold my breathe.

-Drew



So Drew, assuming we ever get out of Iraq, which dictator do you think we should go after next?

I seem to recall that at the height of the Clinton impeachment hearings, many of the same people who support the war in Iraq were saying that Clinton should not have gotten us into Bosnia or other 'police' actions around the world. That he was just using those to draw fire away from himself. And that we shouldn't be Team America:World Police.

Besides, Hussein was executed and we're still there with no end in sight. And if he was such a staunch member of Al Quida, why did they not lift a finger to prevent that? He was captured in the most humiliating of circumstances-- all alone in a hole in the ground.

See, the trouble with your position is that you ask rhetorical question and frame the debate in such a manner that only the monoculture of George Bush supporters can possibly have any 'correct' answers. Everyone else is being stupid and/or a traitor, those being the only other choices in the equation.

Public opinion polls have shown that Americans are more sophisticated than this and they voted with their feet _against_ the politicians that pulled this stunt in the last Congressional elections. They may not like what they got, but one thing is for sure-- they hated the people like Rick Santorum (who lost in a landslide) a LOT more. That's a demonstrable fact. And while people like Newt Gingrich can still get rich off the books preaching to the choir, it's one the hard line wing of the party is going to have to live with.

-Kerry O.


Kerry,

Actually, I have asked a number of very direct questions. When confronted with "Bush Lied" just under sixty times in the last month here in this forum I posted direct quotes from Democrats stating that Saddam was not only a problem but a massive threat. A number of those quotes were made long before President Bush was elected. When I asked some here who want to blame GWB for everything from 9-11 to the sinking of Titanic there is an eerie silence that follows. Please since you believe I have framed my positions in a rhetorical manner, give me some examples. If I have I'll quickly fix it.

And I was not one of the folks who thought Clinton wrong to lob some cruise missiles at Baghdad. I have never written here or anyplace else that he was wrong to get us involved in Bosnia or Somalia or in a limited way, Iraq. I should also make clear that I did not support the impeachment but there again, I digress.

What dictator should we go after next? Great question and I'm up for the discussion but clearly both Clinton's use of force doctrine (for humanitarian reasons only) and Bush's doctrine are not far apart. I've said in the past that the outcome is irrelevant when the logic used to get there is identical. Clinton felt that starving people in Mogadishu was a good enough reason to ask Delta and Rangers to grab Aidid. Was he right? Was it worth the loss of life we suffered that day? I believe it was and it was something for the greater good.

The Middle East is a mess. What one person does in their nation affects us today in ways the Founders could not have ever anticipated. I think my overall point has always been that I don't agree or disagree with conflict based on the President who started it. Whether a Democrat or a Republican, there are going to be wars to fight. Kennedy got us in to Vietnam. Johnson kept us there yet it is Nixon who gets the blame for most of it and he was the President who got us out.

I've not discussed things like this with you in the past and I don't know your part affiliation (nor do I much think that it matters.) What I have done is taken exception to people whose only viable method of comment is to cut and paste what others think while at the same time refusing to answer points made in defense of a position.

The whole notion that Bush Lied (to the exclusion of many that came before him who made his case long before he did) isn't an ideological difference--it's politics at its worst--unprincipled--based solely on the letters R or D.

Drew

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Sat 04/12/08 03:25 PM

Sorry Drew, that was sarcastic humor which does not come across in the ultra serious religion forum. That is my main issue with this forum! Why is it that most people are so freakin' serious? Moderation guys! Lighten yer load! Have a little fun at your own expense. (speaking to all) Life is too short to be so serious.When a little humor is injected into the discussion do you find that people's shields come down and they are more likely to dance than to draw swords? Humor is good for the soul, assuming one believes they have a soul.laugh blushing


Honestly, humor is everything to me and in that I now understand your intentions, well, like I said, all is well. I just know that sometimes (we've all seen this) people will use humor to disguise insults. Thanks for the clarification.

-Drew:smile:

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Sat 04/12/08 02:52 PM
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-Drew


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