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DOES GOD EXIST ?
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Posted by Goingforasong You can keep restating things as often as you wish but it doesn't alter anything if it is not true.If common sense declares the existence of God then a lot of people are lacking common sense.For me common sense says our very existence is extraordinary and there are many conflicting explanations for that phenomenon.Common sense by definition indicates general consensus.Common sense may say we don't have any definitive explanation for the existence of anything rather than nothing and may proffer God for want of a better answer but I don't see that as a reasonable answer.We really don't know is a more honest answer. If God himself put awareness of His existence in my heart then He hasn't done a great job. God has enough problems as things stand without further adding to his problems by saying he created me in His likeness,he needs to have a stern talk with His quality control people. Posted by BlakeIam I repeat certain things over because I believe them to be true and some individuals need them repeated and it is also a form of confirmation. Common sense does not indicate (by definition as you stated) general consensus whatsoever. And I stand by my statement that common sense declares the existence of God , because it does. God has put the knowledge of His existence in your heart. It isn't a matter of Him doing a great job or not (as you stated) . The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it.... Many people need a spiritual heart transplant. God doesn't have problems as you have stated. Mankind was created in the likeness of God by God. A lot of people reject God because they do not want to be held accountable for their actions . By denying the existence of God in no way takes away from the accountability that we will be held to. Believing something to be true does not make it true for anyone except you.If you believe something is true why does it need further confirmation.If it needs confirmation surely this can only come from new evidence or new information.In a previous post you stated that "bottom line it comes down to faith",if there is ample evidence then how is faith required.One doesn't need faith to believe 2+2=4.If there is ample evidence of the existence of God then you don't need faith to believe God exists,yet the Bible says "without faith it is impossible to please God".Common sense as opposed to specialised knowledge implies that a person of normal intelligence can see and understand something,there is a general consensus with regard to the matter in question,general consensus does not mean unanimity.If there is not general agreement(consensus) on what the evidence represents then how can people come to the same conclusion which in this case,according to you,is that God exists.But as we all know,consensus or even unanimity does not mean truth.If what you say "The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it...." then why does God put knowledge of his existence in peoples heart,it seems destined for failure from your description.If you can't see that my final statement is light hearted,I apologize.Finally why would anyone think denying the existence of God would take away accountability.If I owe the bank money but deny the debt exists it does not take away my accountability,however the bank has to prove the debt is real and that it is my responsibility before they can hold me accountable. There are many things that I find to be true that many others also find to be true and not because I find them to be true. Confirmation by "3" is a great learning technique regarding anything. Ample amounts of evidence of God helps one to place their faith in God. It isn't blind faith. There is evidence that helps one to place faith in God. It isn't the way I describe God and His existence that seems destined for failure, it is some not being able nor not wanting to understand God and His existence. You cannot compare secular accountability with Godly accountability. That is like trying to mix water and oil. |
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Trump meeting in Illinois
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here's a point to ponder... if Roseanne Barr had made a single derogatory statement towards Trump or his administration...he would be calling her a fat, no talent has-been whose ratings were never as good as his.. in that same vein, if lobbyists for renewable energy had ponied up more money and sweetheart deals for him, you can bet your last dollar Trump would be dropping the big coal & oil industries interests like a bad habit... Trump doesn't care who pays, just as long as he gets his 2 scoops of ice cream and everyone else at his table profusely profess their gratitude to him for allowing them to have their half-portion.. he's a sell-out who will flip or flop for the best deal again, JMO Hopefully you will get to like him over the next 6 and a half years as well as Pence the following 8 years. 
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I honestly dont know the porn stars, I know of Ron Jeremy and Andrea true as she did the Sex in the city theme song . What movies did Stormy Daniels do? Stormy sucks Seattle There she blows The Cumfather? 
She also starred in : Forest Hump Saving Ryan's Privates 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Have you ever - part 24
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Hmmm... don't think so , but plenty come up to me with random conversations.
HYE, contemplated eternity or the density of the weight of time ? |
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Trump 2020
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so he is porn star too and he is claiming adultery? Good Lord, its like Hillary divorcing Bill Clinton because he wasn't honest. 🤣 That is what tv talk show was. discussing ! Not sure how big a star but he was supposed to be into porn. I guess when she came home at the end of the day and said worked sucked..... it really did.
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I honestly dont know the porn stars, I know of Ron Jeremy and Andrea true as she did the Sex in the city theme song . What movies did Stormy Daniels do? Stormy sucks Seattle There she blows The Cumfather?
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Jon Pardi/ Head Over Boots
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Ecclesiastes 10:2
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as i understand this thread, condensed to the simplest terms... Conservatives -----> GOOD 
Liberals ----------> BAD 
and the band plays on... Yup. The "music " never stops... And they kept on dancing... |
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If it wasn't for Texas/ George Strait
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concerts
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I saw the replacements, queen, clutch, atomic bitchwax, dandy warhols, kinda pat benatar(left early), the feelies, peter case, eagles of death metal, fratellis, henry rollins hmmmm may be more but caint think of em. I have hearing damage but its minimal. I've seen Clutch countless times. Grew up with them. All the members live all around me. They are literally playing 2 miles from my house August 2nd with Black Label Society. Pretty crazy. |
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The End of the World - Eon
Edited by
BlakeIAM
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Wed 07/25/18 03:08 PM
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All I have to say (for now
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That being said , yes, this present Earth will be destroyed one day. No one knows when , but God Himself. Satan has defiled the original Heaven, Satan has defiled this present Earth, and Satan will (in the works as I post this) defile the present Jerusalem. All sin and corruption will be eradicated one day. Satan's head will be crushed and the heel of the Lord bruised. A footstool ... It is already a done deal in the eyes of The Lord. One of my favorite three words together in a sentence in The Word of God is , It is finished!!! ⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘ Amen! |
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Topic:
DOES GOD EXIST ?
Edited by
BlakeIAM
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Wed 07/25/18 02:54 PM
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It does exist in many people's minds, and in writings, and art, but outside of those places there is no proof of actual existence in the real world. Bottom line it comes down to faith, but there is ample evidence of the existence of God. If there is ample evidence for the existence of God then why doesn't everyone believe in God.If as you say the bottom line is that it comes down to faith then there isn't ample evidence.There may be circumstantial evidence which when coupled with faith will satisfy certain people.Even if one accepts that there is a God then whose version of God and what that God possibly requires of us does one accept.I notice that you are involved in several discussions with other believers and there seems to be more dissention than agreement about many things.One would think that after thousands of years of analysis that there would be more consensus among believers regarding the nuts and bolts and how the whole project fits together.It seems to me that many of your statements are very dogmatic and you provide very little evidence to support those statements.Whilst I accept that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,lack of a better explanation is not evidence of the existence of God. Just because there is ample evidence of the existence of God does not mean that everyone will believe. Some people just don't want to believe for various reasons. To exercise or place faith in God does not take away from His existence, in fact it magnifies His existence that much more. God is not plural , for there is only one God. He expects and requires the same from everyone according to His Word . The basics in my opinion should be common sense regarding His commands and testament. It wouldn't be wise to formulate an opinion about God or believers regarding a dating web site where people disagree about certain subjects regarding God and His Word. From my experience in life in general many Christians are predominantly on the same page regarding God and His Word, from creation to the crucifixion of Christ and more importantly the resurrection of Christ and life eternal. As far as you saying that I am dogmatic and provide little evidence for the existence of God shows you know very little about me because I have provided much evidence of the existence of God outside of plain common sense. You must not have seen those posts. However it is not my job to prove to you or anyone concerning the existence of God. You will either believe or disbelieve, however one day all will believe and acknowledge God and will confess with the mouth The Lord Jesus Christ. 
You are correct in asserting that not everyone will believe based on evidence.We only have to look at the deniers of the holocaust to confirm that but as you say some people don't want to believe.However the vast majority accept the reality of the holocaust based on reasonable evidence.One wonders why the vast majority are not swayed by reasonable evidence regarding the existence of God. "God is not plural for there is only one God" another dogmatic statement which denigrates the many believers in God who do not accept your God. I agree the basics should be the same but in reality they are not.Christians and Muslims acknowledge the God of Abraham but are not on the same page about the crucifixion and resurrection or life eternal.As for the commandments supposedly written in stone,Christians can't even agree on those. I also agree that it would be unwise to form an opinion on God based on what I have read here.However my opinion is based on sixty years of experience and is not even remotely influenced by anything I have read here.I am puzzled by your statement regarding provision of evidence outside of plain common sense.You may well have provided evidence for the existence of God in posts I have not read but I don't recall any posts that even attempted to provide such evidence but as I stated absence of evidence is not evidence of absence so those posts may exist. I accept that it is not your job to prove to me regarding the existence of God but I assume that as part of the great commission,part of it would entail proving that your God exists in the first place.I don't accept that believing or disbelieving are the only options,there are many people who declare that there is not enough evidence for them to be confident about their choice. Sir thank you for your response. As I have stated before, common sense declares the existence of God. God Himself has put His existence in your heart. We are created in His likeness. You can keep restating things as often as you wish but it doesn't alter anything if it is not true.If common sense declares the existence of God then a lot of people are lacking common sense.For me common sense says our very existence is extraordinary and there are many conflicting explanations for that phenomenon.Common sense by definition indicates general consensus.Common sense may say we don't have any definitive explanation for the existence of anything rather than nothing and may proffer God for want of a better answer but I don't see that as a reasonable answer.We really don't know is a more honest answer. If God himself put awareness of His existence in my heart then He hasn't done a great job. God has enough problems as things stand without further adding to his problems by saying he created me in His likeness,he needs to have a stern talk with His quality control people. I repeat certain things over because I believe them to be true and some individuals need them repeated and it is also a form of confirmation. Common sense does not indicate (by definition as you stated) general consensus whatsoever. And I stand by my statement that common sense declares the existence of God , because it does. God has put the knowledge of His existence in your heart. It isn't a matter of Him doing a great job or not (as you stated) . The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it.... Many people need a spiritual heart transplant. God doesn't have problems as you have stated. Mankind was created in the likeness of God by God. A lot of people reject God because they do not want to be held accountable for their actions . By denying the existence of God in no way takes away from the accountability that we will be held to. |
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concerts
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Concerts are a compelling media for artistic expression. Just remember to bring hearing protection in case they have the music too loud. I did lose hearing for certain tones at one of them one time. Usually I get recordings of them online. Sorry 
*thread bump* I've seen/heard over 2,000 concerts and my hearing (surprisingly) is actually great. My vision (physically) not so much. You do make a great cautionary advice though. |
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Im grilling salmon for dinner.. Love grilled salmon! OT: I've seen/heard over 2,000 concerts. |
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so he is porn star too and he is claiming adultery? Good Lord, its like Hillary divorcing Bill Clinton because he wasn't honest. 🤣 |
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Fifty Shades of Jenny...
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About a year ago I started dating this guy, he was 28 and I was 35. He was still a virgin(So he said) and I was not. One night we had the house to ourselves. We didn’t plan on doing anything, just watch movies and eat munchies. He started kissing and sucking on my neck, which was... … Hmmm... really a virgin at 28. You at 35 and not... gee whiz Wally... House to "our" selves??? "We" didn't plan on doing anything??? Eat munchies? Definitely DO NOT write for Penthouse Forum. Hey everybody I had some 28 year old virgin dude over and we did some bong hits and gobbled some Fritos and he like , you know, like nibbled on my neck like it was some type of three dimensional Frito flake and I was like OMG! And then he... |
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A different life Friend , I'm sure the life you have is way better then millions of others in a world of billions. No one gets out of here without singing the blues... |
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Each day, they come up with a new way to hate. Hammer meet nail. 
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Democrat's Abolish ICE Bill
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Liberalism is mental disorder.
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