that's usually what I do. I don't have a lot of patience, so I'm frequently deleting numbers, and when the guy calls back a month later, and says "hey, what's up," I'm thinking "who the hell is this?"

amen PCC :) I think you and I are on the same wavelength. I would LOVE to find the man that will prove me wrong - or at least won't act like the other guys I've dated, and for the record, if I had met someone that I'm mutually attracted to, that didn't do those things, I probably wouldn't be on here and about 2 or 3 other sites lol :)

s1owhand - thanks :) I laughed my ass off. The funny thing is, I think you were serious on most of it. I'm not surprised by some of it, but what I still don't get is the whole phone number thing. when you first meet a guy, and you kinda hit it off, why does he offer his number first? and if that happens, why does he act like he's surprised you called, and then he's busy?

go right ahead longhairbiker lol :)

go to wikipedia and look up lemmings. they're small rodents.

I have a friend on here that I met on another site - hi David :) I've had a variety of experiences, some good, some bad, some I wish I'd never had. Basically, with a few exceptions, this is how I meet guys that I go out with. So, I'm new to this site and no I haven't gone out with the guys I've met on here yet, but I plan to if we like each other and decide to do that :) I still have some very good friends that I've met on other dating sites.

Hey, another redheaded woman :) Cool :) Like the others said, relax, try to have fun :) We are all looking for the same thing, it's all about playing the game, until you find one that's not a player, and who wants the real thing. Have fun :) I'm here if you ever want to vent.

ok, let me rephrase - in my experience, with the guys I've met, that's how it's been. I know there are exceptions to the rule, but in general, that's what I've been running in to. The purpose of me commenting on this was to vent a little. I haven't met anyone yet that I'm mutually attracted to that doesn't lie about the things I mentioned.

no, Berryboo, you're just wired different, that's all :) It's cool :) For me and my girlfriends, we share the same philosophy - unless the guy's here, present and accounted for, and showing by words and actions he's all ours and wants the same in return, we keep meeting other guys.

thanks longhairbiker :) I got it the first time, but waited to respond. I'm like the next person, physical attraction is important, but it ain't everything . . . . I mean come on!

dating, what's that? I seem to get the "one date" guys. I've tried it both ways - holding back if I like the guy, and the opposite. the results are the same, one date only. So, I can't help you on the more than one date idea. As for me, I continue to meet new guys and go out with them even if I like someone, unless and until the guy tells me he wants to be exclusive. I figure life is short and why pass up someone great because you're just getting to know someone that may not be right for you or may not want anything from you.

ok, so if that goes both ways, then I think men and women should be honest about what we want. I don't know about all of you, but I've been on the ride long enough - I'm ready to get off the ride and move on to the next phase :)

sorry, didn't mean to leave the men out :) thanks guys for the comments too :) And, even if you think you shouldn't, I'd appreciate a guy's perspective.

thanks ladies :) I knew I wasn't the only one - that was what I was really after :) haha As far as my self image, I can assure you I know my worth and I feel great about myself, I'm just like everyone else - it would be nice to find the guy that is right for me. All I'm saying is I'm honest and up front, it's just that most guys I meet aren't. I can handle it much better if a guy says up front all he wants is sex, or that he's not sure what he wants. I'm just tired of the games. At least if a guy's up front I can make a choice about whether I want to join him in just screwing around or if I want to say "no thanks."

ok, I just have to say this; maybe some of you ladies can relate :) Here are the things I hate:

1. guys that only want to talk Sunday through Wednesday. Thursday through Saturday night is reserved for going out with the guys and picking up new women

2. guys that give me their numbers, with no intention of answering their phones - what's that about? Is it an ego boost for the guy to get a lot of calls from women or what? I'm still old school - I like the guy to call me, at least until we get to know each other

3. guys that say they want a long term relationship or are looking for one, only to get what they want, then magically, after they've had their "fun" they change their minds - "I'm not ready for a one-woman relationship"

4. guys that don't read my profile - just look at my pic. I put divorced, kids, yes they live with me for a reason - it's TRUE :) I'm a mom, and yes, oh my god, my kids live with me

5. guys that want me to drive 3 hours one way and pay all the gas, and the guy doesn't pay for anything. if I ask for gas money, I'm the asshole, and if I get gas money, it's 15.00.

6. the middle of the night text messages - ex: "hey, I just found your number again, what are you up to?"

7. the guy that wouldn't respond when you said you liked his profile and wanted to get to know him better, but now, on Thursday afternoon, he wants your number to go out Friday - when you give it to him, he says, "thanks for the digits," then never calls you

8. guys that immediately launch into so, what positions do you like? have you even done a threesome before? bit you look great naked, etc. I like to flirt, but not in the first email

9. guys that say "I can't wait to see you," but every time you suggest a meeting, there are a thousand reasons they can't do it that weekend

10. guys that say they love kids but don't have any and don't know how to act around your kids; don't take an interest in them

11. when a guy tells you he's going to do something and then doesn't; like an idiot, you forgive him, and think ok, I'll give him this one - then he tells you he's going to do something else, and he doesn't.

12. A guy that says "looks aren't that important," but then all he talks about is how you look, or wants to see more pics of you before he tells you much more about himself, even though you've posted 6 pics on your profile

13. Guys that are MARRIED that go to a club or bar, wearing their wedding rings and have the balls to hit on you, and even worse, their friends encourage it

14. Guys that say they're separated, but no one has filed for divorce, and then the wife starts digging through the email and starts emailing you, wanting to know everything the two of you talked about

15. and probably one of the worst things - ignoring the fact that there are red flags about a guy, or overlooking things that bother you, letting down your guard, starting to like a guy, and then he acts like the ass you knew he was in the beginning.

that's it for right now, but I have more.

any thoughts ladies, or gentlemen?

the pleasure is all mine, believe me . . .

I totally agree - politics and religion should not be discussed on a first date. Most smart people know that since those subjects are completely emotional and tend to make people argue. If someone asks me about it, I will answer because I try to always be honest and open. By the way, nice to see you David :) You have such a way with words . . . maybe you should lay some of your really romantic stuff on ladies here . . .