I thought I'd help you all out a little. I can not believe what I read earlier. A poster actually wrote that Palin had more U.S. and World experience then Obama and Biden combined.

So I thought I would post some information on Biden and clear up that myth.

Biden has served over 30 years in the Senate and is Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, He served as the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee for 16 years, including an extended term as Chairman from 1987-95. Today, Senator Biden is the Chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs.
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Celebrating Martin Luther King, Jr: Senator Biden was an original co-sponsor of the bill to designate a national holiday in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr., and helped guide its passage through the Senate.
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BIDEN’s Law Enforcement Congressional Badge of Bravery Act Becomes Law
Badge Honors Exceptional Acts of Bravery in the Line of Duty

August 7, 2008

Washington, DC – U.S. Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr.’s (D-DE) Law Enforcement Congressional Badge of Bravery Act (S.2565) has been signed into law. This bipartisan legislation establishes for the first time two awards: one to honor federal law enforcement officers and a second to honor state and local law enforcement officers who perform exceptional acts of bravery in the line of duty.


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BIDEN/BROWNBACK Legislation on Human Trafficking Passes Judiciary Committee
July 31, 2008


Washington, DC – Legislation that will protect victims trafficked across and within our borders, introduced by Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) and Sam Brownback (R-KS), passed by vote of 17-2 out of the Judiciary Committee today. The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (S. 3061), a four year reauthorization act, comprehensively strengthens and improves existing laws to prevent and prosecute human trafficking, as well as offers protection and services to victims of human trafficking. Senators Arlen Specter (R-PA), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Benjamin Cardin (D-MD), Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) are also co-sponsors of the bill.
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Historic BIDEN/LUGAR Global AIDS Bill Becomes Law
Biden/Lugar Legislation Authorizing $48 Billion for HIV/AIDS, Malaria and TB

July 30, 2008

Washington, DC – Historic legislation sponsored by Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) and Ranking Member Richard G. Lugar (R-IN) to authorize $48 billion for global HIV/AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis programs for the next five fiscal years became law today. Senators Biden and Lugar were present in the East Room of the White House as the President signed the Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008 – a landmark step in the worldwide fight against HIV/AIDS and other deadly diseases.




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Senate Approves Biden's National Child Protection Improvement Act
October 18, 2007

WASHINGTON, DC -- Last night the United States Senate unanimously approved bipartisan legislation authored by Senators Joe Biden (D-DE) and Strom Thurmond (R-SC) to protect children, the elderly and individuals with disabilities by providing non-profit groups with easy access to thorough, efficient criminal background checks.
The National Child Protection and Volunteers for Children Improvement Act provides $100 million to establish a clearinghouse within the Justice Department to perform nationwide criminal history records checks. The background checks will be provided to organizations which utilize volunteers for a minimal fee and to all other organizations that serve children, the elderly and individuals with disabilities for $18 per check.
"In their efforts to provide care for America's children, groups like the Boys & Girls Clubs currently depend on a confusing, ineffective, and costly system that leaves kids, the elderly and other vulnerable people at risk," said Biden, Chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs. "Approval of this measure brings us one step closer to ensuring our kids, our grandparents, and those with disabilities are safe when they place their lives in the hands of employees and volunteers for organizations that provide care, treatment, education and training."
Praising Senator Bidens efforts in spearheading this initiative, Robbie Callaway, Senior Vice President of the Boys & Girls Clubs of America, noted: "Your bill will provide groups like Boys & Girls Clubs of America with real and easy access to criminal background checks so that we can quickly and absolutely ascertain that the staff and volunteers who come into contact with our young people have only the best of intentions."
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BIDEN Bill to Promote Democracy in Burma Passes Senate
December 19, 2007

Washington, DC — Today the Senate unanimously passed Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr.'s (D-DE) Burma Democracy Promotion Act, legislation that promotes the restoration of civilian, democratic rule to the troubled state of Burma.
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Bill to Restore Civilian, Democratic Rule in Burma Passes Senate
July 23, 2008

Washington, DC — Last night, the Senate passed the Tom Lantos Block Burmese JADE (Junta’s Anti-Democratic Efforts) Act of 2008 (H.R. 3890), spearheaded by Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE). The bill promotes the restoration of civilian, democratic rule to the troubled state of Burma. It was approved unanimously by both the House and Senate – reflecting a bipartisan, bicameral commitment by the United States Congress to the people of Burma.

BIDEN Introduces Justice Integrity Act
Establishes Pilot Program to Study Racial Disparities in the Criminal Justice System
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July 10, 2008

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE), Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs, along with Senators Arlen Specter (R-PA), Benjamin L. Cardin (D-MD) and John F. Kerry (D-MA), today introduced the Justice Integrity Act, legislation designed to increase public confidence in the justice system and address any unwarranted racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal process. The Justice Integrity Act will establish advisory groups in ten federal districts, under the supervision of the United States Attorney General, to study and determine the extent of racial and ethnic disparity in the various stages of the criminal justice system; make public reports on the results of their findings; and make specific recommendations to help to eliminate racial and ethnic discrimination and unjustified racial and ethnic disparities.

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BIDEN-BROWNBACK Legislation Passes Senate - Again
January 22, 2008

Biden-Brownback Measure Calling for the U.S. to Support a Federal Iraq Passes as Part of the Department of Defense Conference Report
Biden Efforts to Bar Permanent Bases in Iraq and Protect Troops with Mine Resistant Vehicles Also Included in Report
Washington, DC - The U.S. Senate passed legislation today, sponsored by Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) and Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS), which calls for the United States to support a political settlement in Iraq based on a federal system of government. The Biden-Brownback measure - which passed as part of the Department of Defense Conference report - has garnered overwhelming bipartisan support in both Houses of Congress and would require a major strategic shift in the Administration's Iraq policy. President Bush vetoed the original Department of Defense Authorization report in December because of an unrelated issue that Congress subsequently addressed.
"We have both sides of the aisle, both sides of the U.S. Capitol, saying to the President: abandon this flawed strategy of yours in Iraq and change course. Everyone agrees that there is no pure military solution in Iraq. There has to be a political solution and that begs the question: what is it? Congress has again answered that question with one voice" said Senator Joe Biden
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BIDEN Calls on White House Counsel Fielding to Ensure President, Vice President Preserve Documents Relating to Destroyed CIA Interrogation Tapes
December 11, 2007

Washington, DC - Former Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) sent a letter to Fred Fielding, Counsel to the President, asking him to confirm that the White House and the Office of the Vice President are preserving all documents related to the Central Intelligence Agency's policies and programs regarding the detention and interrogation of individuals involved in international terrorism. In the past, the Office of the Vice President has argued that it is not subject to Executive Orders regarding the preservation of documents. Sen. Biden's letter comes just days after reports that White House officials were aware of the existence of CIA interrogation tapes and were involved in discussions regarding whether they should be preserved.
The full text of the letter follows.
December 11, 2007
Mr. Fred Fielding
Counsel to the President
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20500
Dear Fred:
On December 10, 2007, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino stated that you issued a written directive to White House employees to preserve documents related to the destruction of the CIA interrogation tapes. Ms. Perino did not provide a copy of the directive, however, and she was unable to answer questions as to its breadth and scope.
Please confirm that the directive to preserve documents applied to the Executive Office of the President, including the National Security Council, in addition to immediate White House staff. In light of the Office of the Vice President's record of fatuous arguments that it is not subject to the authority of the President, please also confirm that the directive included the Office of the Vice President and that the Office of the Vice President intends to comply.
I appreciate your prompt response.
Sincerely,
Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
Go to source: Senator Joe Biden — Senator for Delaware: Press Room - Press Release
BIDEN Calls on Mukasey to Appoint Special Counsel to Investigate CIA's Destruction of Interrogation Tapes
December 9, 2007

Washington, DC - Former Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and current Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) called on Attorney General Michael Mukasey today to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate the CIA's destruction of interrogation tapes:
"Under federal law, the Attorney General may appoint a Special Counsel to prosecute matters when he or she determines that an investigation by the Department itself would present a conflict of interest, or there are other extraordinary circumstances and it would be in the public interest to do so. I believe these conditions are met.
"This is a White House that has sanctioned and pushed for the kind of interrogation techniques captured on those video tapes. This is a White House that was informed of the CIA's desire to destroy those tapes. Thus, it is possible this investigation could lead to the White House. For these reasons, I believe the CIA's destruction of these interrogation tapes meets the extraordinary circumstances criterion and it would be in the public's interest for Attorney General Michael Mukasey to appoint a Special Counsel to do an independent investigation."
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BIDEN Legislation Authorizing Helicopters for the Peacekeeping Mission in Darfur Passes Appropriations Committee
May 16, 2008

Washington, DC – A provision authored by Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) authorizing the President to provide U.S. helicopters to the U.N.-A.U. joint peacekeeping force in Darfur passed the Senate Appropriations Committee as part of the FY08 Supplemental Appropriations Bill. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has called helicopters indispensable for the peacekeeping mission and for months has asked for 24 tactical and utility helicopters, but to date only four vehicles with sufficient capabilities have been committed. Sen. Biden’s provision authorizes the President to transfer U.S. helicopters from the Department of Defense inventory to assist the joint U.N-A.U. force in Darfur.

“We cannot allow genocide and suffering to continue because the combined nations of the world cannot find 24 helicopters to help stop it. That is inexcusable,” said Senator Biden. “It’s true that these helicopters alone will not save Darfur – Darfur desperately needs more peacekeepers – but without mobility, troops cannot do their jobs
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BIDEN Calls on Colleagues to Support Anti-Torture Legislation Following President's Veto of Intelligence Authorization Bill

March 8, 2008


Washington, DC — Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) called on his colleagues to support anti-torture legislation following President Bush's veto of the FY08 Intelligence Authorization Bill earlier today. The Intelligence Authorization legislation contained an important anti-torture provision that would prohibit the CIA from using any interrogation technique not authorized by the US Army Field Manual, which explicitly prohibits waterboarding and other "acts of violence or intimidation, including physical or mental torture, or exposure to inhumane treatment."
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He graduated from the University of Delaware in 1965, and from the Syracuse University College of Law in 1968. Prior to his election to the Senate, Biden practiced law in Wilmington, Delaware and served on the New Castle County Council from 1970 to 1972. Since 1991, Biden has been an adjunct professor at the Widener University School of Law, where he teaches a seminar on constitutional law. He is a proud graduate of Archmere Academy, class of 1961.
Senator Biden lives in Wilmington, Delaware and commutes to Washington, DC when the Senate is in session. He is married to Dr. Jill Biden, the former Jill Jacobs, an educator in Delaware's schools for over twenty years. She currently is a professor teaching at Delaware Technical Community College. Senator Biden is the father of three children: Beau, Hunter and Ashley. Beau serves as Delaware's Attorney General, Ashley is a social worker and Hunter is a lawyer.

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I will cont. posting- there is to much to post on Joe Biden I would be here for weeks/months doing it.. I just couldn't believe that other poster put up that nonsense.

The more you know.

actually winx with all due respect.....
their has never been a senator elected to presidency.....why?? because they do not have the management skills to run a buisness let alone a city.
a mayor / govenor.....balances budgets, leads people, makes decisions about the betterment of their community.
as far as harvard....BB king holds 4 degrees from their and was an 8th grade drop out. jesse ventura...mayor,gov of MN, former pro wrestler....he has been teaching there.,


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And it is statements like these that make me wonder why people will say things they know nothing about.

It amazes me.
Do they think if they say it no one will question it because why would someone say something so bold if it weren't true?

No, people say things because of agenda's.
And it is really not in good form to be speaking in a public forum and giving misinformation.
FACT is.




To date, fifteen senators have gone onto serve in the nation's highest elected office, the presidency. Two senators, Warren G. Harding and John F. Kennedy, moved directly from the U.S. Senate to the White House.



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James Monroe

Senator, 1790-1794

President, 1817-1825

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John Quincy Adams

Senator, 1803-1808

President, 1825-1829

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Andrew Jackson

Senator, 1797-1798; 1823-1825

President, 1829-1837

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Martin Van Buren

Senator, 1821-1828

President, 1837-1841

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William Henry Harrison

Senator, 1825-1828

President, 1841

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John Tyler

Senator, 1827-1836

President, 1841-1845

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Franklin Pierce

Senator, 1837-1842

President, 1853-1857

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James Buchanan

Senator, 1834-1845

President, 1857-1861

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Andrew Johnson

Senator, 1857-1862; 1875

President, 1865-1869

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Benjamin Harrison

Senator, 1881-1887

President, 1889-1893

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Warren G. Harding

Senator, 1915-1921

President, 1921-1923

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Harry S. Truman

Senator, 1935-1945

President, 1945-1953

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John F. Kennedy

Senator, 1953-1960

President, 1961-1963

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Lyndon B. Johnson

Senator, 1949-1961

President, 1963-1969

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Richard M. Nixon

Senator, 1950-1953

President, 1969-1974

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fyi..
Executive* not -excutive


You have got to be kidding me right... Do you know anything about Joe Biden?
Are you serious with this statement..
Lets talk about Joe Biden for a minute ok..






Biden is the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and has been for over 30 years are you kidding me.. He has authored bills/Laws .. he has passed so much legislation it would take you months to go through all his work that he has accomplished.

A constitutional scholar and adjunct professor of law at Widener Law School, Senator Biden is one of the Senate's leading voices on crime and drug policy. U.S. News & World Report described Senator Biden as "the Democrats' chief anti-crime specialist on Capitol Hill." He served as the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee for 16 years, including an extended term as Chairman from 1987-95. Today, Senator Biden is the Chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs, where he continues to lead the debate on criminal justice and public safety issues.

The Biden Crime Bill
Since coming to the Senate, Biden has written some of the most innovative and far-reaching criminal justice proposals in recent history, including the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, also known as the Biden Crime Bill. The 1994 law put more than 100,000 additional police officers on the streets

You are talking about something you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about.
Please do not type false information about someone who has done so much for the people of our country. He is a very respectable man, and does not talk down to people. He will debate facts/issues but he is a gentleman. His demeanor is strength and if you have something to say negative you should have backup/proof-not just foul tongue- he is action not lip service. You should be ashamed of yourself, truly you should.
The debates will speak for themselves.
Palin is nowhere close to him, you are poorly informed-

I will not add any more to your post with his information- I will give him a separate post.

You should really think before you type-more informed/knowledgeable people look at posts like these and are like *blank stare*

Unbelievable

I sent a text only email w/out the links see if that was the issue..

:/

wtheck??

Abstinence does not work now does it? Education does now doesn't it.

How many teenagers do you know think clearly.
Until the age of 25 our frontal lobes are not developed fully. That is our 'rational thinking' part of our brain. Our impulse center.
If teenagers are not armed with knowledge, and just preached to it does no good when the time comes when they are impulsive.

www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=news-in-rev/teen-frontal


I feel really bad for teenagers that have to live in situations where parents refuse to be logical. Regardless of where you stand- you're not promoting sex by educating your teenagers, you are being smart.
Teenagers are not equipped mentally to meet every challenge all the time. It is playing with your kids futures because you refuse to have a conversation.
And that is why her daughter is pregnant. And Alaska has such a high rate of STD's.


Sure never heard Mrs. Palin mention anything bout this health concern.
Current Issues and Trends
In 2006 due to an outbreak among
homeless people in Anchorage. Of particular concern are two groups, Alaska Natives
and Asian people, who have rates of TB that are up to five times greater than the state
average. These groups represent only 17% and 4% of the total population, respectively,
but suffer 75-85% of the burden of this disease. Because many people in Alaska are
infected with the TB germ (have latent TB diagnosed by a positive TB skin test), it is
very likely that sporadic outbreaks will occur.
People who have been in contact with each case of TB are evaluated for infection and
disease due to TB. The investigation of contacts is a critical part of TB control, and is
not directly reflected in this graph. There are, on average, 16 contacts identified for each
person with TB. In addition, between 600 and 800 people are found to have latent TB
infection each year in Alaska and are started on treatment to prevent TB disease.

Data Limitations
TB reporting is part of a passive disease surveillance system. It is possible that cases
went unreported, but this is highly unlikely for the following reasons: 1) most providers,
public and private, utilize the State Public Health Laboratory for TB cultures; 2) the
State provides TB medications free of charge; and 3) a 2001 pilot study of pharmacies
dispensing TB meds failed to find additional cases.
Current Issues and Trends
Rates of chlamydia infection have risen steadily in Alaska and the U.S. in recent years,
and Alaska’s rate has been nearly twice the U.S. rate since 2002
Gonorrhea we fare a little higher check out the site..
But know I checked out U.S. site and Alaska and it was MUCH harder to navigate through Alaska's sites. They had many dead links as well. The links to teen pregnancies and abortions was dead.
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But there are more post neonatal deaths in Alaska..

More people in Alaska reporting they don't get health care...
by almost 4%

www.hss.state.ak.us/dph/infocenter/pubs/healthStatus97-06.pdf





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I work in healthcare and TB is a serious issue. Not sure what is going on here.

Never once heard a healthcare address about a concern over TB though.
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Ok I sent it in three diff. emails :/

must of been to many links for one mail.

omg I will send it half at a time... :/

I sent you what I could think of off the top of my head

Well it's not that I think children are not great.
I just think it such a immense responsibility.
I believe I not only owe it to them that I keep up as they mature into adults and their stages, I feel I have more to offer them and society by not any further additions.
My daughter is going into the service next year and I am sure at some point in the next ten years she will be headed towards a family of her own. I want to fit into that as freely as I can. W/out restraints or distractions of more kids. I don't want children in the generation as my grandchildren.

I want to spend my older years not doing what I did for the last 18 years. ya, I just want to be a Mom, grandma at some point---and enjoy my life.

Because really right now, between Wrestling, ROTC, Color Guard, their school groups they been/are involved in, daughter goes to college twice a week as well... and well, my teens volunteer at our church once a week--- they been on summer break from that, but I'm sure that starts back soon.. and they go to church on average 2 other times a week, and always want to do extra events through there- oh and Mexico missionary every year, that can tend to be a drain getting ready for that, And and and and and it goes on and on.. some know senior year for kids is hectic... planning graduation
stuff, iono---- just been through all the years and stages, can't imagine doing it again.

everyone has to have similar things going on, so I am not sure why I am like feeling the stand alone,'Im about to be freeeeeee', and others are like, 'give me more', ha

not sure how people-- want to do that alllllll over again..
I want my time.

hay you're welcome. :D


The more you know-

If you want some info on some political sites that are NOT repub..and NOT dem.. where you can cross reference facts. Let me know. I will share a few.

First Palin did not jump into a race for President..
She was choosen for a running mate by McCain.

VP and President are two totally different positions in the White House.

Obama was nominated as the Dem presidential Candidate as was McCain for the repub. Candidate.

McCain is running against Obama you all are a little confused on who is running for president I think.

Biden has my respect. I can say this, Palin has lots of work to do before any debate with Biden.

Who writes Wikipedia

Volunteers do not need any formal training before creating a new article or editing an existing article. The people who create and edit articles in Wikipedia come from countries all around the world and have a wide range of ages and backgrounds. Anyone who contributes to this encyclopedia is called a "Wikipedian".

Wikipedia:About

This is an introduction to the Wikipedia project for visitors.

'The wikipedia.org Web site, Wikipedia's homepage for all languages.Wikipedia (pronounced /ˌwiːkiˈpiːdiə/ or /ˌwɪkiˈpiːdiə/) is a multilingual, Web-based, free content encyclopedia project'.

Wikipedia is written collaboratively by volunteers from all around the world. Since its creation in 2001.


'EVERY day HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of visitors from around the world make TENS of THOUSANDS of EDITS and CREATE THOUSANDS of New Articles'


[interesting statement]

Visitors DO NOT need specialized qualifications to contribute, since their primary role is to write articles that cover existing knowledge;

this means that people of all ages and cultural and social backgrounds CAN write Wikipedia articles.
Most of the articles 'CAN BE EDITED by Anyone with access to the Internet',
'SIMPLY by CLICKING the edit this page link'.

'Anyone is welcome to add information',
cross-references or citations....

Because Wikipedia is an ongoing work to which, in principle, anybody can contribute, it differs from a paper-based reference source in important ways. In particular, older articles tend to be more comprehensive and balanced, while newer articles MORE frequently contain significant MISINFORMATION, unencyclopedic content, or vandalism.
*side note-unencyclopedic isn't a word* (wikipedia used it not me)

'Users need to be AWARE of this to obtain valid information and avoid misinformation that has been recently added', etc... it goes on.. and on...

you have to click around to find out what wikipedia says about what they are and aren't.

They do say they will remove unrelated subject material. But if you browse through wikipedia or have spent time fact checking this you would know.

Btw.. this is beside the point, any site that has admissions that can be edited by basically a 5 year old and an adult with a sound mind has these such facts placed in front of them by the site owner and the adult still dismisses the claim by reasoning, 'it still could be ok,' they could be removing the edits.

What is the thought process here? Why in the world would anyone step in that direction when there are 9483748593984 credible sources within another click of the mouse.
I can't see the rationale.

go back to domestic sheep I just edited it... I wrote a few sentences right after domestic sheep.... figure it out..

=)

i thought wikipedia was a very good source of info actually. compared to any other sites I coulda used to give obamas history for example.

wow does it say its been edited and by who?


people seriously- stop

That is wikipedia's whole point did you read the top of their home page

Welcome to Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
2,545,127 articles in English

They promote editing.... they put the edit tab on there so anyone can edit it.. they don't care, they don't expect people to use it as a 'cited resource'

There is absolutely nothing that could be less reputable(?), credible, or resourceful then a forum where anyone in the living world that has access to the Internet can EDIT the applied information viewed.


well i did not realize that it could be edited by anyone. and try as I might, icant seem to edit the page myself :(





it's easy---

k, do this
wikipedia.org
click on english
first page that pops up click on the first thing u see
domestic sheep ok
then click on the edit tab on the top of the page... ok? there ur first wikipedia edit
=)

I believe with all things considered Biden was a better choice.

Clintons had their time in the White House. And it got real strange for me towards the end. I couldn't figure out what she was doing.

Media and politicians work together a lot. And I know the Clintons had to have had a few friends inside with the media. I am not sure the angle on thier clear divide/endorse/divide/endorse behaviors displayed throughout.

And not coming out more clearly to the people. They have internet access like all other candidates. Dems are much more savvy when it comes to technology and the world wide web. And I felt she really kept people guessing a little to long.

And really I felt she didn't fit into the whole 'change' idea. It would of been a hypocritical move on Obama's behalf to put her as running mate.

On another note, she did NOT want to be VP. She made that very clear. She wanted to be President and if she couldn't acheive that she wanted to return back to what she was doing. She said that over and over. She said she would never consider VP.

Last thing I'd like to add is
this is today not yesterday-- more to really focus on now.

The H after the A does not make it funny.

People will continue to be with the playground mentality, 'mine is better than yours.'


Impressive? No.


Still haven't seen sources on 99% of what is spewed in these forums.

McCain takes PAC monies, Interest groups, last I checked it was around 1.4 million, I am sure it is well over that by now.
fec.gov for information on presidential financial disclosures.
Obama does not take PAC monies- he is not being bought by big business that is a FACT.
McCain is being bought by big business that is a FACT.
It is in black n white on the financial stats on the FEC site.

It is all disclosed.

Know McCain is for big business not for us. He will have many favors to pay back. And he is familiar with how to do that.

ya, I sourced wikipedia. although I coulda sourced info from less reputable sites, i did not. and if u want to disprove anything that I sourced feel free!! And no Im not researching a college paper. and yes to me biased info does matter...this is why when I research I often use wikipedia!


There is absolutely nothing that could be less reputable(?), credible, or resourceful then a forum where anyone in the living world that has access to the Internet can EDIT the applied information viewed.

hay thanks, that is great history. Although-until I thoroughly read it I won't have to many comments on the old versus the new besides obvious bland points.

I skimmed over and put on my favs. for later today.

Thanks again
:D