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this is only really for the americans... i havent really followed the situation, so what has he done to piss off most of the country. please tell me cause i see people slagging him off on here and this has really been annoying me Some of it is policy related and sadly, the president being black has woken the racists in this country. Now it is hard to determine how many of the "protests" to the president are race related or actually policy related. Dragon, the President is just as much white as he is black. People here of the most part do not recognize his white half at all. Even folks that are not racist, who believe in seperation of the race.. to them he is black, period. It's our sad "one drop rule". Back in the 60's and 70's, my experiance was, true pedigree blacks hated and segregated any that had mixed blood. Mullatos found themselves in a no-mans land. Not accepted by either sides. I was mostly raised in Southern Ms. and lived three blocks ouside the quarters. Back then they called them the N------ Quarters even in front of the blacks. It was resented but, accepted as normal. I oppose Hussein for the same reason the other 55% opposes him. Thats a great point, I see that even today, I work in alot of urban areas. In the military there were all black tables but no all white tables. The only ones that would make you unwelcome were the black tables. |
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barack obama
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I only speak for myself but am very involved in politics and I can say the following are common things alot of people share with me about obama. During the election we were warned he was a radical and a marxist. Of course this met with some allusion to j edgar hoover and some snickers and something about how crappy bush was. He also made alot of promises to various left wing groups. So after the election he immediately nationalized banking and huge chunks of industry, textbook communism, and that really freaked alot of people out. Then he lets speial interests write thousand page+ bills on healthcare for example and tried to ram them through. They add 300 page amendments 3 hours before the vote. Our elected representatives dont even write the bills, corporations or bankers do and the congress and obama rubberstamp them. He also wants cap and tade, which will double our electric bills and gasoline prices, we are a very mobile country and restricting our travel in this way does not go over well. Also, most americans now realize that global warming is a crock and even if it was man caused cap and trade wouldnt do anything to solve it. His programs have virtually assured the collapse of the dollar and us economy in the near future. He has indebted our great grandchildren. Thats the rap from the constitution lovers. Among the liberal/fascist/socialist crowd he has reversed his plan to let gays in the military, bring the troops home, hes waffled on gitmo, he is now cool with the patriot act and using it, He has done nothing to stop all the clandestine drug smuggling and other nefarious activities by intelligence, and he has not siezed and redistributed all the wealth from the evil rich. Basically turned his back on the marxist base once elected, and the libertarian crowd regards him as the black hitler. Thats the short answer. Who warned you that he's a radical and a Marxist? Fox news station? When I investigated him, I thought that he leaned towards the middle. Btw, there were already gays in the military. Mexico drug smuggling? He gave money for more patrols, etc. Plenty of people besides fox were warning. Your investigation skills are lacking, he was the most liberal voting senator there was. He admits to involvement in many communist student groups, and all of his mentors and associates are involved in some form of radical marxism or another. Its like if all my friends were in the klan, skinheads, aryan nations, or whatever and then I got elected while calling for diasarming the blacks...im sure youd never suspect me of racism....please, I am open minded and stuff but this is the president were talking about, we should have a higher standard than a marxist coke dealing illegal alien muslim......lol... |
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 The draconians want us to have healthcare because healthy humans taste better. Your so crazy  The draconians are also enviromentalists because they don't want the planet their best livestock/slave labor comes from to get to messed up Now I am getting pissed. Stop telling our....oops I mean their secrets...    I don't know why more of the republican conservatives haven't found out about the draconians yet They are too busy calling everyone who doesn't act or think like them liberals, socialists, communists, fascists, knee jerks, anti-American, etc... to notice. Hell for the most part they couldn't care less if they are draconians as long as they follow them in their goal to censure anyone not like them, religiously monopolize the whole world, beat everyone down with their idea of morals, apply fiscal rules to everyone that they do not follow themselves, etc.... So it is irrelavant to them draconian, human, just as long as they follow them down the yellow brick road...lol Actually we are describing their repugnant ideology. Fascism: Private ownership with government control Describes the modern republican goals(non-conservative in conservative clothing), they want to regulate some utopia while allowing private ownership Socialism/communism: Government ownership AND control. Describes modern democrat/liberals goals. Obama has nationalized major industry and banks. ---------- I agree we should not call, say anti-0war protesters anti-american. Thats wrong. However, If you advocate ideals contrary to the constitution I think its fair to call someone anti-american. Certainly its an accurate description for some. ----------------------- True conservatives are as against the church and state violations as you are. Its a tool of division, keep you hating church people and keep them pissed about abortion. Then you dont notice both parties gang raping your liberties. If you think I am exagerating listen to it from their own lips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niJAkR_6tKQ |
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The draconians want us to have healthcare because healthy humans taste better. Your so crazy The draconians are also enviromentalists because they don't want the planet their best livestock/slave labor comes from to get to messed up Now I am getting pissed. Stop telling our....oops I mean their secrets... I don't know why more of the republican conservatives haven't found out about the draconians yet They are too busy calling everyone who doesn't act or think like them liberals, socialists, communists, fascists, knee jerks, anti-American, etc... to notice. Hell for the most part they couldn't care less if they are draconians as long as they follow them in their goal to censure anyone not like them, religiously monopolize the whole world, beat everyone down with their idea of morals, apply fiscal rules to everyone that they do not follow themselves, etc.... So it is irrelavant to them draconian, human, just as long as they follow them down the yellow brick road...lol Actually we are describing their repugnant ideology. Fascism: Private ownership with government control Describes the modern republican goals(non-conservative in conservative clothing), they want to regulate some utopia while allowing private ownership Socialism/communism: Government ownership AND control. Describes modern democrat/liberals goals. Obama has nationalized major industry and banks. ---------- I agree we should not call, say anti-0war protesters anti-american. Thats wrong. However, If you advocate ideals contrary to the constitution I think its fair to call someone anti-american. Certainly its an accurate description for some. ----------------------- True conservatives are as against the church and state violations as you are. Its a tool of division, keep you hating church people and keep them pissed about abortion. Then you dont notice both parties gang raping your liberties. |
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he was born he won he's black he's not black enough he's white he's not white enough pick a reason any reason and the rest will follow What about ACORN being investigated in eighteen for voter fraud? Acorn is not Obama anyway. Acorn existed before Obama and they will exist after. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110131 What does their roots or future have to to with obama working for them, with them, and giving them billions of dollars?  What does Bush have to do with Blackwater mercenaries(a.k.a. the Knights Templars) and giving them billions of dollars? Quite a bit actually. Bush and Obama are like swapping out the marines for the army...your *** is still under attack!lol... |
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Speaking of the KKK,has anyone else here ever read their holy book, the Kloran? And yes,that is really the name of it No but I read a koran and this other one about a spaceship coming to kill whitey...forgot the name... |
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'Tea Party' going on in Troy MI right now. And it is up-class white americans. Mostly those that recieve health insurance from employer/past employer or can afford their own private insurance. And there are other's there not protesting health care. Yea, of course, it is those who have health insurance and those who have bought all the lies told about the healthcare reform. Are they televising it? Yeah. 5 pm news Detroit - ABC About 200 people or so were protesting in from of Rep Peter's office. (Don't know why they are protesting in front of a state rep's office, but whatever floats their boat!) This is the root of the problem. Here we have vocal advocates of governement helath care who dont even know who their damn congressman is. (hint peters is NOT your state rep) http://peters.house.gov/index.html And Im from florida, how sad is that..lol.. |
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barack obama
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he was born he won he's black he's not black enough he's white he's not white enough pick a reason any reason and the rest will follow What about ACORN being investigated in eighteen for voter fraud? Acorn is not Obama anyway. Acorn existed before Obama and they will exist after. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110131 What does their roots or future have to to with obama working for them, with them, and giving them billions of dollars? |
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'Tea Party' going on in Troy MI right now. And it is up-class white americans. Mostly those that recieve health insurance from employer/past employer or can afford their own private insurance. And there are other's there not protesting health care. Yea, of course, it is those who have health insurance and those who have bought all the lies told about the healthcare reform. Are they televising it? Which lies are being told? Specifically. I mean, other than that all of obamas opponents are racists. How much do you think George Soros paid those people to go be racist at the rally? |
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The wrongness of your analogy on the list is obvious to anyone who reads it. Maybe you need to research it better if you cannot see it. I don't need any help in that department. ---------What analogy are you talking about? Explain and point it out since you see it so clearly, elaborate, Im begging you. The statistics are not accurate, if you would research it you would find that out and the communism crap is just that crap. ---Research it? Ive studied political science for a decade. So to directly quote the communist manifest is being inaccurate? I should not have to school you. I definitely don't want you to school me, so there you have it. ----You should simply school yourself. At least elaborate on what you mean. You are no better than those who hurl racial epithets instead of articulate their position. You are just hurling epithets, while refusing to answer simple questions. You say I am wrong but refuse to tell me where, point by point. Now back to the OP. Too bad racism continues in this country, it is such a disturbing philosophy to the well being of this country. -----------yeah but what does that have that have to do with anything. The "OP" iswhether everyone who is against obama is racist. Thats a load of crap, and as I said, I can think of two black men that would probably get 90% of the republican nomination if they ran, Thomas Sowell and Herman Kane. Racism is not nearly as disturbing as obamas policy, a racist dictatorship in germany killed an estimated 6 million. A liberal dictatorship in russia killed 50 million, so Id rather the klan run the place than the liberals, reduce mass murder by nearly 90%. Look man, people have been pointing out the "similarities" to our leaders and communism for probably longer than you have been alive. So nothing new and nothing of validity, as it wasn't when it was first suggested in the 40s. Same story different leading man. So stop trying to school me on something I already know about and already have dismissed as invalid. As for the racism, how we deal with each other is the base to all problems in this world. So it is a valid concern and problem. We should be more advanced than this. Well I would say that electing a black guy president is pretty advanced in that regard. Its too bad it had to be a racist one that hates white people: From Dreams of My Father, ” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”. Even worse is that people like yourself try and paint any critic as a racist. This ensures its a long time before another black guy gets a shot because everyone is going to be so sick of the race card by the next election the next black president will be on mars. Good job. The klan is sending you a thank you card as we speak im sure. Communists have been gradually implementing their policy here for years, just because its taken a while doesnt mean it doesnt exist. The fabian socialists won out over the militarists back in the '40's and thats when the incrementalism plan started. Communism and capitalism were the two competing theories to emerge from the industrial revolution, all politics since the late 1800's have been going one direction or the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society I highly encourage you and anyone else to read the following article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00007.htm Oh and real educated to use one exerpt from the book that makes a point without keeping the whole concept intact. The race card is a racist propaganda tool that racist use to continue their racial crimes. As for the communism, I already told you it has been used against almost every leader of this country since the 40s, I would say lets find something new. Communism and Socialism have been pretty well worn out since the 40s. Excuse me but there is not one civilized country on earth that is not communist to one degree or another. All of europe is socialist and the US is most of the way. China is communist. N Korea is communist. The communists are back in power in russia, putin was former head of the kgb, worn out, what are you blind? Why are you playing the race card then? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Asserting anyone who doesnt like obama or his policy is a racist? What about the black guy with the ar-15 in that video? I am not playing any race card, the racism is obvious. Communism has been a threat used as a fearmongering tool here in this country for too long now. There has to be another threat that we can legimately discuss. Health care Race cars helmets capitalism communism natural disasters All used as fear mongering tools.. All still real and valid. I think we should discuss the current threat, a radical regime led by people who promote marxist ideology and are performing actions that will bankrupt and destroy this nation. Communism is the topic because it is the reality. Bush is out, new threat, wake up! What racism was obvious? Ive been to multiple tea parties and if anyone showed up with racist signs they would be asked to leave....didnt happen though at any of them. You dont know all 2 million people from washington. You are pre-judging them. (thats where the word predjudice comes from btw) LOL, most of your list is entertaining, the only legimate threat there is natural disasters. The radical regime has been here since the 40s, they sure aren't very good at their job are they? LOL I did not prejudge them, the author of the article talked of what he saw. There were only ten thousand or twenty thousand, the two million wasn't accurate. Who said anything about a threat? No id say they are pretty good, they have held power since FDR. Saying that protesters are all racists is the pre-judging I am talking about. Heres this on the crowd size, despite the site its from its well rounded: http://www.surgeusa.org/actions/091209dc.htm |
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barack obama
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I only speak for myself but am very involved in politics and I can say the following are common things alot of people share with me about obama.
During the election we were warned he was a radical and a marxist. Of course this met with some allusion to j edgar hoover and some snickers and something about how crappy bush was. He also made alot of promises to various left wing groups. So after the election he immediately nationalized banking and huge chunks of industry, textbook communism, and that really freaked alot of people out. Then he lets speial interests write thousand page+ bills on healthcare for example and tried to ram them through. They add 300 page amendments 3 hours before the vote. Our elected representatives dont even write the bills, corporations or bankers do and the congress and obama rubberstamp them. He also wants cap and tade, which will double our electric bills and gasoline prices, we are a very mobile country and restricting our travel in this way does not go over well. Also, most americans now realize that global warming is a crock and even if it was man caused cap and trade wouldnt do anything to solve it. His programs have virtually assured the collapse of the dollar and us economy in the near future. He has indebted our great grandchildren. Thats the rap from the constitution lovers. Among the liberal/fascist/socialist crowd he has reversed his plan to let gays in the military, bring the troops home, hes waffled on gitmo, he is now cool with the patriot act and using it, He has done nothing to stop all the clandestine drug smuggling and other nefarious activities by intelligence, and he has not siezed and redistributed all the wealth from the evil rich. Basically turned his back on the marxist base once elected, and the libertarian crowd regards him as the black hitler. Thats the short answer. |
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Ku Klux Klowns
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The wrongness of your analogy on the list is obvious to anyone who reads it. Maybe you need to research it better if you cannot see it. I don't need any help in that department. ---------What analogy are you talking about? Explain and point it out since you see it so clearly, elaborate, Im begging you. The statistics are not accurate, if you would research it you would find that out and the communism crap is just that crap. ---Research it? Ive studied political science for a decade. So to directly quote the communist manifest is being inaccurate? I should not have to school you. I definitely don't want you to school me, so there you have it. ----You should simply school yourself. At least elaborate on what you mean. You are no better than those who hurl racial epithets instead of articulate their position. You are just hurling epithets, while refusing to answer simple questions. You say I am wrong but refuse to tell me where, point by point. Now back to the OP. Too bad racism continues in this country, it is such a disturbing philosophy to the well being of this country. -----------yeah but what does that have that have to do with anything. The "OP" iswhether everyone who is against obama is racist. Thats a load of crap, and as I said, I can think of two black men that would probably get 90% of the republican nomination if they ran, Thomas Sowell and Herman Kane. Racism is not nearly as disturbing as obamas policy, a racist dictatorship in germany killed an estimated 6 million. A liberal dictatorship in russia killed 50 million, so Id rather the klan run the place than the liberals, reduce mass murder by nearly 90%. Look man, people have been pointing out the "similarities" to our leaders and communism for probably longer than you have been alive. So nothing new and nothing of validity, as it wasn't when it was first suggested in the 40s. Same story different leading man. So stop trying to school me on something I already know about and already have dismissed as invalid. As for the racism, how we deal with each other is the base to all problems in this world. So it is a valid concern and problem. We should be more advanced than this. Well I would say that electing a black guy president is pretty advanced in that regard. Its too bad it had to be a racist one that hates white people: From Dreams of My Father, ” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”. Even worse is that people like yourself try and paint any critic as a racist. This ensures its a long time before another black guy gets a shot because everyone is going to be so sick of the race card by the next election the next black president will be on mars. Good job. The klan is sending you a thank you card as we speak im sure. Communists have been gradually implementing their policy here for years, just because its taken a while doesnt mean it doesnt exist. The fabian socialists won out over the militarists back in the '40's and thats when the incrementalism plan started. Communism and capitalism were the two competing theories to emerge from the industrial revolution, all politics since the late 1800's have been going one direction or the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society I highly encourage you and anyone else to read the following article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00007.htm Oh and real educated to use one exerpt from the book that makes a point without keeping the whole concept intact. The race card is a racist propaganda tool that racist use to continue their racial crimes. As for the communism, I already told you it has been used against almost every leader of this country since the 40s, I would say lets find something new. Communism and Socialism have been pretty well worn out since the 40s. Excuse me but there is not one civilized country on earth that is not communist to one degree or another. All of europe is socialist and the US is most of the way. China is communist. N Korea is communist. The communists are back in power in russia, putin was former head of the kgb, worn out, what are you blind? Why are you playing the race card then? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Asserting anyone who doesnt like obama or his policy is a racist? What about the black guy with the ar-15 in that video? I am not playing any race card, the racism is obvious. Communism has been a threat used as a fearmongering tool here in this country for too long now. There has to be another threat that we can legimately discuss. Health care Race cars helmets capitalism communism natural disasters All used as fear mongering tools.. All still real and valid. I think we should discuss the current threat, a radical regime led by people who promote marxist ideology and are performing actions that will bankrupt and destroy this nation. Communism is the topic because it is the reality. Bush is out, new threat, wake up! What racism was obvious? Ive been to multiple tea parties and if anyone showed up with racist signs they would be asked to leave....didnt happen though at any of them. You dont know all 2 million people from washington. You are pre-judging them. (thats where the word predjudice comes from btw) |
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Shes not the only one is the sad part:
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The wrongness of your analogy on the list is obvious to anyone who reads it. Maybe you need to research it better if you cannot see it. I don't need any help in that department. ---------What analogy are you talking about? Explain and point it out since you see it so clearly, elaborate, Im begging you. The statistics are not accurate, if you would research it you would find that out and the communism crap is just that crap. ---Research it? Ive studied political science for a decade. So to directly quote the communist manifest is being inaccurate? I should not have to school you. I definitely don't want you to school me, so there you have it. ----You should simply school yourself. At least elaborate on what you mean. You are no better than those who hurl racial epithets instead of articulate their position. You are just hurling epithets, while refusing to answer simple questions. You say I am wrong but refuse to tell me where, point by point. Now back to the OP. Too bad racism continues in this country, it is such a disturbing philosophy to the well being of this country. -----------yeah but what does that have that have to do with anything. The "OP" iswhether everyone who is against obama is racist. Thats a load of crap, and as I said, I can think of two black men that would probably get 90% of the republican nomination if they ran, Thomas Sowell and Herman Kane. Racism is not nearly as disturbing as obamas policy, a racist dictatorship in germany killed an estimated 6 million. A liberal dictatorship in russia killed 50 million, so Id rather the klan run the place than the liberals, reduce mass murder by nearly 90%. Look man, people have been pointing out the "similarities" to our leaders and communism for probably longer than you have been alive. So nothing new and nothing of validity, as it wasn't when it was first suggested in the 40s. Same story different leading man. So stop trying to school me on something I already know about and already have dismissed as invalid. As for the racism, how we deal with each other is the base to all problems in this world. So it is a valid concern and problem. We should be more advanced than this. Well I would say that electing a black guy president is pretty advanced in that regard. Its too bad it had to be a racist one that hates white people: From Dreams of My Father, ” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”. Even worse is that people like yourself try and paint any critic as a racist. This ensures its a long time before another black guy gets a shot because everyone is going to be so sick of the race card by the next election the next black president will be on mars. Good job. The klan is sending you a thank you card as we speak im sure. Communists have been gradually implementing their policy here for years, just because its taken a while doesnt mean it doesnt exist. The fabian socialists won out over the militarists back in the '40's and thats when the incrementalism plan started. Communism and capitalism were the two competing theories to emerge from the industrial revolution, all politics since the late 1800's have been going one direction or the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society I highly encourage you and anyone else to read the following article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00007.htm Oh and real educated to use one exerpt from the book that makes a point without keeping the whole concept intact. The race card is a racist propaganda tool that racist use to continue their racial crimes. As for the communism, I already told you it has been used against almost every leader of this country since the 40s, I would say lets find something new. Communism and Socialism have been pretty well worn out since the 40s. Excuse me but there is not one civilized country on earth that is not communist to one degree or another. All of europe is socialist and the US is most of the way. China is communist. N Korea is communist. The communists are back in power in russia, putin was former head of the kgb, worn out, what are you blind? Why are you playing the race card then? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Asserting anyone who doesnt like obama or his policy is a racist? What about the black guy with the ar-15 in that video? |
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The wrongness of your analogy on the list is obvious to anyone who reads it. Maybe you need to research it better if you cannot see it. I don't need any help in that department. ---------What analogy are you talking about? Explain and point it out since you see it so clearly, elaborate, Im begging you. The statistics are not accurate, if you would research it you would find that out and the communism crap is just that crap. ---Research it? Ive studied political science for a decade. So to directly quote the communist manifest is being inaccurate? I should not have to school you. I definitely don't want you to school me, so there you have it. ----You should simply school yourself. At least elaborate on what you mean. You are no better than those who hurl racial epithets instead of articulate their position. You are just hurling epithets, while refusing to answer simple questions. You say I am wrong but refuse to tell me where, point by point. Now back to the OP. Too bad racism continues in this country, it is such a disturbing philosophy to the well being of this country. -----------yeah but what does that have that have to do with anything. The "OP" iswhether everyone who is against obama is racist. Thats a load of crap, and as I said, I can think of two black men that would probably get 90% of the republican nomination if they ran, Thomas Sowell and Herman Kane. Racism is not nearly as disturbing as obamas policy, a racist dictatorship in germany killed an estimated 6 million. A liberal dictatorship in russia killed 50 million, so Id rather the klan run the place than the liberals, reduce mass murder by nearly 90%. Look man, people have been pointing out the "similarities" to our leaders and communism for probably longer than you have been alive. So nothing new and nothing of validity, as it wasn't when it was first suggested in the 40s. Same story different leading man. So stop trying to school me on something I already know about and already have dismissed as invalid. As for the racism, how we deal with each other is the base to all problems in this world. So it is a valid concern and problem. We should be more advanced than this. Well I would say that electing a black guy president is pretty advanced in that regard. Its too bad it had to be a racist one that hates white people: From Dreams of My Father, ” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”. Even worse is that people like yourself try and paint any critic as a racist. This ensures its a long time before another black guy gets a shot because everyone is going to be so sick of the race card by the next election the next black president will be on mars. Good job. The klan is sending you a thank you card as we speak im sure. Communists have been gradually implementing their policy here for years, just because its taken a while doesnt mean it doesnt exist. The fabian socialists won out over the militarists back in the '40's and thats when the incrementalism plan started. Communism and capitalism were the two competing theories to emerge from the industrial revolution, all politics since the late 1800's have been going one direction or the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society I highly encourage you and anyone else to read the following article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00007.htm |
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National debt clock
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A comprehensive national debt clock can be found here: http://usdebtclock.org/ Pretty interesting to watch the economy go into insolvency in real time. The only recent president who did anything about this was Clinton. Obama will not have the pleasure of addressing it with the recession and all. Heres the national debt figures for each year under clinton. Again those pesky facts, it went up every year. 09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86 09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43 09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62 09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34 09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73 09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39 09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32 09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38 |
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you have even said they only conclusion for people not supporting the presidents bills etc is because of racism. you even started a thread about it. now I'm confused as to who you feel are racists. The thread is a warning or just information for those out there who may not be racist that find it really really important that they do not follow racists anywhere on any crusade they have, that this is a snake pit of racism. That is all. It is someone's observation from the rally. I would think people would be glad to know they can avoid the racists causes and steer clear of their crowd. So when people who believe in the constitution demonstrate its a "snake pit of racism". But when anyone of the liberal/fascist/communist persuasion marches it a great expression of their rights, is that it? And you keep trying to ignore it but I want you to tell me 10 simple statements where I am wrong in each one and why. You seem very opinionated, so express it please. And while you are at it dont ignore this one either: The wrongness of your analogy on the list is obvious to anyone who reads it. Maybe you need to research it better if you cannot see it. I don't need any help in that department. ---------What analogy are you talking about? Explain and point it out since you see it so clearly, elaborate, Im begging you. The statistics are not accurate, if you would research it you would find that out and the communism crap is just that crap. ---Research it? Ive studied political science for a decade. So to directly quote the communist manifest is being inaccurate? I should not have to school you. I definitely don't want you to school me, so there you have it. ----You should simply school yourself. At least elaborate on what you mean. You are no better than those who hurl racial epithets instead of articulate their position. You are just hurling epithets, while refusing to answer simple questions. You say I am wrong but refuse to tell me where, point by point. Now back to the OP. Too bad racism continues in this country, it is such a disturbing philosophy to the well being of this country. -----------yeah but what does that have that have to do with anything. The "OP" is whether everyone who is against obama is racist. Thats a load of crap, and as I said, I can think of two black men that would probably get 90% of the republican nomination if they ran, Thomas Sowell and Herman Kane. Racism is not nearly as disturbing as obamas policy, a racist dictatorship in germany killed an estimated 6 million. A liberal dictatorship in russia killed 50 million, so Id rather the klan run the place than the liberals, reduce mass murder by nearly 90%. |
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You take them way too seriously. Theres been like 13 murders by skinheads in the US ever. The klan hasnt done anything since the sixties and weve since learned the US govt was behind most of the violence of that era as part of cointelpro. Tim mcveigh's co-conspirator was married to an asian woman, and thats the only real domestic terror I can think of besides abortion people which again, not a race deal. The environmental wack-jobs, now theres some modern terrorism: "Organizations that have been labeled as "eco-terrorists" in the United States include the Animal Liberation Front (ALF),[14] and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF),[14]. The FBI in 2001 named the ELF as "one of the most active extremist elements in the United States", and a "terrorist threat,"[14] although they publicly disavow harm to humans or animals.[15][16]. The Greenpeace organization has also been implicated (and in some cases indicted) in eco-terrorism and associated unlawful use of monies as well as anti-piracy laws concerning unlawful boarding of private vessels on the high seas. [17]" ----------- To address your premise that anti-obama is a racist deal is absolutely divide and conquor politics and reprehensible. The left is full of people who support forced sterilization, and regard humans as a curse on earth, racism against all mankind at once. So both sides have fringe elements, the democrat/fascist/socialist side identifies far more with its fringe than the conservative/libertarian side. Environmental nutjobs are welcome at the DNC but the RNC couldnt run the klan out fast enough, and I still remember what party robert byrd and george wallace were in. If Herman Kane or Thomas Sowell were running these same so called racists would rush to the polls to vote for them, its a lie. There may be racism in the same way we call michael moore fat. Its not that people hate hiom for being fat, but because they hate him they make fat jokes. There may be an element of that against obama, but rest assured, obama is hated not because hes black, but because he is red. This thread brings to mind this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7syx26QtQIM&feature=related of course msnbc reports it as racist armed white men and edits it to hide his skin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI&feature=related So whose the racist lady? Better yet whose the race baiting blowhard? Racist crimes continue today in this country. Statistics are not accurate because the crimes do not get reported all the time that they happen. Trying to do the switch and bait doesn't work for me. The racist message is hatred and it is not a healthy nor positive message. Calling Obama a communist is part of the racist propaganda used to demonize the man. So all you did was prove my point. Racist crimes do occur, overwhelmingly black on white, see above post. What racist message are you talking about? We dont want government health care? We dont want cap and trade? This is what people are saying and you are calling them racist, you are the one pulling a bait and switch. I am not demonizing anyone, I am accurately describing his political views. it was him who said he fit in among the marxist student groups in college and everyone he associates with is a marxist in one form or another (as are most republicans I might add) To clarify I will show you what I mean. The following are marx's ten points from the communist manifesto, a sort of ten commandments for achieving communism: 1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. ----well lets see, all of obamas policy in one way or another seeks more control over private property, the left has always fought to engineer cities, tell you what you can build and where. We qarent there yet but this is the direction obama is heading and his eventual goal 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. -------Obama definately supports this and is calling to tax the evil rich to pay everyone elses medical bills. Pure communism. 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. ---------Obama and the left support this and are bringing back a 45% death tax. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. ------Obama supports asset forfeiture laws and has numerous proceedings to sieze all sorts of property form all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons. 5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. -----Not only does obama support the federal reserve, he just gave them sweeping new powers, further consolidating and centralizing credit 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. ---------Obama supports the FCC and the DOT. He is seeking further control over the airwaves with digital television and new policy he advocates such as the fairness doctrine. He also wants to build high speed rail, he supports and is expanding homeland securities presence and control in all areas of transportation. He seeks new standards on automobiles, in every aspect of transportation he has some new legislative or policy goal. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. ------Well he wants far more power for the EPA and environmental laws to control the soil and he has nationalized major industries like GM. This is a major communist victory for the state to now actually own industry in america. 8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. ------Industrial armies are also known as unions. He has always been in bed with them. He also wants a new domestic service army and a security arm. He supports eliminating workers right to a secret ballot in unionization efforts. Now we no longer cho9ose a union, the industrial army is established whether we like it or not...per marx and engles... 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. ---He definately is supportive rural growth and slowing urban sprawl. The 2 competing interests are too hard to govern. This particular goal is not as big a deal today as transportation since this book was written has advanced to where you can live in the country and work in the city. 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. --Last but not least, the teachers union is a pet of his. He absolutely supports government run education (as do both parties). It doesnt matter what people think, indoctrinate the kids and they will vote away their freedoms gladly. -------------------------------------------- As you can see not only is obama a communist, but so are most republicans. I dont throw that word around for no reason. It is not racist propaganda, you are just underinformed about what communism is and how entrenched it has become in this country in the last 50 years. You are proving my point again and again with the inaccurate statistics designed to demonize a race of people. Most who throw communism around don't even know what it is anyway and I see you are not completely informed here either. Answer 3 questions please: 1)What in this post says anything about a race of people? 2)What statistics are in the above post? 3) Which policy do I claim obama supports that he does not? I dont even think you read it. A liberal knee jerk is no better than a neo-con one. Oh you mean the statistics of crime that are inaccurate? ---You mean the FBI Uniform Crime Report I linked to? Oh you meant the list of twisted versions of Obama's policies passed off as truth. Garbage my good man. I read garbage there. ---Again, read the post. I listed the ten points of the communist manifesto and you claim that is not a representation of what communism really is? Ill try and help, the items with the numbers are each one of the ten points quoted directly form the communist manifesto (which I bet I have read at least a dozen times more than you). Below each point is the corresponding policy obama (and many republicans) support. -->PLEASE one by one tell me what he does not support. <---- For example, graduated income tax. This is where the more you make, the higher percentage they take. Obama is for raising the maximum tax bracket and the cap for ssi contribution. In the spirit of this principle he also intends to finance government health care by taxing insurance policies for wealthier people. Are you telling me in addition to the FBI and Census inventing crime obama has reversed his policy in the last 5 min? Then address the other 9. So you say the FBI and the census invented the crime numbers. Fair enough, would you please link the source of YOUR information. I actually will read it too, I am interested in intelligent debate with those of other opinions, but you have to do better than say "garbage" or "its not true" without any substantive response. You did not list the manefesto in form. And your associations with Obama are not even close. First off, in Communism the people own nothing on their own, nothing. Not even close to us at any level. Obama or not. And your list just goes down hill from there. http://www.answers.com/topic/communism http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Communism As for your crime statistics, it is an ongoing problem. Not only are they dealing with the bias of the cops who initially report crimes or not report crimes but the gathering and keeping process is not accurate. http://www.wvdcjs.com/statsanalysis/publications/NIBRSAudit05Report.pdf Where in the communist manifesto does it say : "in Communism the people own nothing on their own, nothing." Just because your country is not 100% communist does not mean certain people do not believe in communism. In addition, communism does not need a bloody revolution, it happens gradually in many places. I dont know how I can be any clearer but you keep doing it. You say I mischaracterize and that they are not true to form, but you will not address the issue or respond. Those are the direct quotes from the communist manifesto, the ten points to accomplish to achieve communism. Line by line I have addressed them. I am waiting to hear your different definition of progressive tax. Really waiting to hear how the fcc doesnt relate to communications, or maybe obama is against public.government education and I didnt know it. Stop with the generalities and be specific about what I am not correctly "associating" . Its actually pretty close to the people owning nothing now anyways. Most have a mortgage, from a bank owned likely by the government. So its not really yours. And you cannot build anything on it or do anything with it without government taxes, permission, and control over the process. If you dont pay yearly tribute theyll take it even if you dont have a mortgage. So a tiny few people might own their property but the vast majority of people "own nothing on their own, nothing. " Unless you count knick knacks and such but even the chinese and north koreans get to own that. ---------Your links: ---------The First One: 1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members. 2. Communism 1. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people. 2. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat. ---------I dont know why you would put this here, it is saying the same thing, notice this phrase: "make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people." From this is where the term "progressive" comes from. Obama, Pelosi, most of the current administration self describes themselves as progressive. next this : "The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat." Karl Marx wrote the communist manifesto. Marxist means a person who subscribes to this political philosophy as expressed in the manifesto. Those 10 things I quoted are from the manifesto. Connected the dots yet? --------------------The Second one Establishing the “Statistical Accuracy” of Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) in West Virginia James Nolan, Ph.D. - West Virginia ------What relevance the accuracy of west virginia crime reporting is I dont know, are there even black people in west virginia?..lol... I will absolutely agree police inflate dollar amounts in drug cases, and that there has been cases of bias against all races by some cop some where. However you cant invent dead bodies. Rape is undereported generally, not by race. I have no dog in the fight, I am just telling you while there are errors, they arent enough to make tens of thousands of extra rapes and murders. In the link you provided I guess is supposed to be an indictment of how inaccurate the statistics are. Allow me to quote the summary: An estimated 4.17% of all records reported for the population of 12 law enforcement agencies in this study were misclassified. OK, so I guess I just dont find that shocking, in fact I would think human error would make that number higher alone. if thats your best example of sloppy reporting Im going to go ahead and claim victory on this one. ----NOW ------>PLEASE <------ONE AT A TIME ADDRESS THE FALSE STATEMENTS ABOUT EITHER THE 10 POINTS OR OBAMAS POSITION ON EACH OF THEM AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IT LETS SEE THE SMOKING GUN ON HOW THE UCR HAS MADE ERRORS IN MILLIONS OF CRIMES THAT REALLY NEVER HAPPENED!!!! The wrongness of your analogy on the list is obvious to anyone who reads it. Maybe you need to research it better if you cannot see it. I don't need any help in that department. ---------What analogy are you talking about? Explain and point it out since you see it so clearly, elaborate, Im begging you. The statistics are not accurate, if you would research it you would find that out and the communism crap is just that crap. ---Research it? Ive studied political science for a decade. So to directly quote the communist manifest is being inaccurate? I should not have to school you. I definitely don't want you to school me, so there you have it. ----You should simply school yourself. At least elaborate on what you mean. You are no better than those who hurl racial epithets instead of articulate their position. You are just hurling epithets, while refusing to answer simple questions. You say I am wrong but refuse to tell me where, point by point. Now back to the OP. Too bad racism continues in this country, it is such a disturbing philosophy to the well being of this country. -----------yeah but what does that have that have to do with anything. The "OP" iswhether everyone who is against obama is racist. Thats a load of crap, and as I said, I can think of two black men that would probably get 90% of the republican nomination if they ran, Thomas Sowell and Herman Kane. Racism is not nearly as disturbing as obamas policy, a racist dictatorship in germany killed an estimated 6 million. A liberal dictatorship in russia killed 50 million, so Id rather the klan run the place than the liberals, reduce mass murder by nearly 90%. |
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I didn't want to do this....really I didn't. If Obama was out kicking puppies in the head and stomping on kittens and I said he was wrong for doing that, would I still be a racist? I don't like what hes doing to America and to me hes kicking the country in the head, but yet I'm being called racist for saying I don't like it. I'm getting tired of having to prove myself, when theres no proof in my actions for being racist. How can I prove that I'm not? I could find an easier time in proving God exists in the clouds above. Rather than answer your question Ill just say you bring the lighter fluid and ill bring the lumber..lol.. |
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You take them way too seriously. Theres been like 13 murders by skinheads in the US ever. The klan hasnt done anything since the sixties and weve since learned the US govt was behind most of the violence of that era as part of cointelpro. Tim mcveigh's co-conspirator was married to an asian woman, and thats the only real domestic terror I can think of besides abortion people which again, not a race deal. The environmental wack-jobs, now theres some modern terrorism: "Organizations that have been labeled as "eco-terrorists" in the United States include the Animal Liberation Front (ALF),[14] and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF),[14]. The FBI in 2001 named the ELF as "one of the most active extremist elements in the United States", and a "terrorist threat,"[14] although they publicly disavow harm to humans or animals.[15][16]. The Greenpeace organization has also been implicated (and in some cases indicted) in eco-terrorism and associated unlawful use of monies as well as anti-piracy laws concerning unlawful boarding of private vessels on the high seas. [17]" ----------- To address your premise that anti-obama is a racist deal is absolutely divide and conquor politics and reprehensible. The left is full of people who support forced sterilization, and regard humans as a curse on earth, racism against all mankind at once. So both sides have fringe elements, the democrat/fascist/socialist side identifies far more with its fringe than the conservative/libertarian side. Environmental nutjobs are welcome at the DNC but the RNC couldnt run the klan out fast enough, and I still remember what party robert byrd and george wallace were in. If Herman Kane or Thomas Sowell were running these same so called racists would rush to the polls to vote for them, its a lie. There may be racism in the same way we call michael moore fat. Its not that people hate hiom for being fat, but because they hate him they make fat jokes. There may be an element of that against obama, but rest assured, obama is hated not because hes black, but because he is red. This thread brings to mind this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7syx26QtQIM&feature=related of course msnbc reports it as racist armed white men and edits it to hide his skin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI&feature=related So whose the racist lady? Better yet whose the race baiting blowhard? Racist crimes continue today in this country. Statistics are not accurate because the crimes do not get reported all the time that they happen. Trying to do the switch and bait doesn't work for me. The racist message is hatred and it is not a healthy nor positive message. Calling Obama a communist is part of the racist propaganda used to demonize the man. So all you did was prove my point. Racist crimes do occur, overwhelmingly black on white, see above post. What racist message are you talking about? We dont want government health care? We dont want cap and trade? This is what people are saying and you are calling them racist, you are the one pulling a bait and switch. I am not demonizing anyone, I am accurately describing his political views. it was him who said he fit in among the marxist student groups in college and everyone he associates with is a marxist in one form or another (as are most republicans I might add) To clarify I will show you what I mean. The following are marx's ten points from the communist manifesto, a sort of ten commandments for achieving communism: 1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. ----well lets see, all of obamas policy in one way or another seeks more control over private property, the left has always fought to engineer cities, tell you what you can build and where. We qarent there yet but this is the direction obama is heading and his eventual goal 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. -------Obama definately supports this and is calling to tax the evil rich to pay everyone elses medical bills. Pure communism. 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. ---------Obama and the left support this and are bringing back a 45% death tax. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. ------Obama supports asset forfeiture laws and has numerous proceedings to sieze all sorts of property form all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons. 5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. -----Not only does obama support the federal reserve, he just gave them sweeping new powers, further consolidating and centralizing credit 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. ---------Obama supports the FCC and the DOT. He is seeking further control over the airwaves with digital television and new policy he advocates such as the fairness doctrine. He also wants to build high speed rail, he supports and is expanding homeland securities presence and control in all areas of transportation. He seeks new standards on automobiles, in every aspect of transportation he has some new legislative or policy goal. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. ------Well he wants far more power for the EPA and environmental laws to control the soil and he has nationalized major industries like GM. This is a major communist victory for the state to now actually own industry in america. 8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. ------Industrial armies are also known as unions. He has always been in bed with them. He also wants a new domestic service army and a security arm. He supports eliminating workers right to a secret ballot in unionization efforts. Now we no longer cho9ose a union, the industrial army is established whether we like it or not...per marx and engles... 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. ---He definately is supportive rural growth and slowing urban sprawl. The 2 competing interests are too hard to govern. This particular goal is not as big a deal today as transportation since this book was written has advanced to where you can live in the country and work in the city. 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. --Last but not least, the teachers union is a pet of his. He absolutely supports government run education (as do both parties). It doesnt matter what people think, indoctrinate the kids and they will vote away their freedoms gladly. -------------------------------------------- As you can see not only is obama a communist, but so are most republicans. I dont throw that word around for no reason. It is not racist propaganda, you are just underinformed about what communism is and how entrenched it has become in this country in the last 50 years. You are proving my point again and again with the inaccurate statistics designed to demonize a race of people. Most who throw communism around don't even know what it is anyway and I see you are not completely informed here either. Answer 3 questions please: 1)What in this post says anything about a race of people? 2)What statistics are in the above post? 3) Which policy do I claim obama supports that he does not? I dont even think you read it. A liberal knee jerk is no better than a neo-con one. Oh you mean the statistics of crime that are inaccurate? ---You mean the FBI Uniform Crime Report I linked to? Oh you meant the list of twisted versions of Obama's policies passed off as truth. Garbage my good man. I read garbage there. ---Again, read the post. I listed the ten points of the communist manifesto and you claim that is not a representation of what communism really is? Ill try and help, the items with the numbers are each one of the ten points quoted directly form the communist manifesto (which I bet I have read at least a dozen times more than you). Below each point is the corresponding policy obama (and many republicans) support. -->PLEASE one by one tell me what he does not support. <---- For example, graduated income tax. This is where the more you make, the higher percentage they take. Obama is for raising the maximum tax bracket and the cap for ssi contribution. In the spirit of this principle he also intends to finance government health care by taxing insurance policies for wealthier people. Are you telling me in addition to the FBI and Census inventing crime obama has reversed his policy in the last 5 min? Then address the other 9. So you say the FBI and the census invented the crime numbers. Fair enough, would you please link the source of YOUR information. I actually will read it too, I am interested in intelligent debate with those of other opinions, but you have to do better than say "garbage" or "its not true" without any substantive response. You did not list the manefesto in form. And your associations with Obama are not even close. First off, in Communism the people own nothing on their own, nothing. Not even close to us at any level. Obama or not. And your list just goes down hill from there. http://www.answers.com/topic/communism http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Communism As for your crime statistics, it is an ongoing problem. Not only are they dealing with the bias of the cops who initially report crimes or not report crimes but the gathering and keeping process is not accurate. http://www.wvdcjs.com/statsanalysis/publications/NIBRSAudit05Report.pdf Where in the communist manifesto does it say : "in Communism the people own nothing on their own, nothing." Just because your country is not 100% communist does not mean certain people do not believe in communism. In addition, communism does not need a bloody revolution, it happens gradually in many places. I dont know how I can be any clearer but you keep doing it. You say I mischaracterize and that they are not true to form, but you will not address the issue or respond. Those are the direct quotes from the communist manifesto, the ten points to accomplish to achieve communism. Line by line I have addressed them. I am waiting to hear your different definition of progressive tax. Really waiting to hear how the fcc doesnt relate to communications, or maybe obama is against public.government education and I didnt know it. Stop with the generalities and be specific about what I am not correctly "associating" . Its actually pretty close to the people owning nothing now anyways. Most have a mortgage, from a bank owned likely by the government. So its not really yours. And you cannot build anything on it or do anything with it without government taxes, permission, and control over the process. If you dont pay yearly tribute theyll take it even if you dont have a mortgage. So a tiny few people might own their property but the vast majority of people "own nothing on their own, nothing. " Unless you count knick knacks and such but even the chinese and north koreans get to own that. ---------Your links: ---------The First One: 1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members. 2. Communism 1. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people. 2. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat. ---------I dont know why you would put this here, it is saying the same thing, notice this phrase: "make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people." From this is where the term "progressive" comes from. Obama, Pelosi, most of the current administration self describes themselves as progressive. next this : "The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat." Karl Marx wrote the communist manifesto. Marxist means a person who subscribes to this political philosophy as expressed in the manifesto. Those 10 things I quoted are from the manifesto. Connected the dots yet? --------------------The Second one Establishing the “Statistical Accuracy” of Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) in West Virginia James Nolan, Ph.D. - West Virginia ------What relevance the accuracy of west virginia crime reporting is I dont know, are there even black people in west virginia?..lol... I will absolutely agree police inflate dollar amounts in drug cases, and that there has been cases of bias against all races by some cop some where. However you cant invent dead bodies. Rape is undereported generally, not by race. I have no dog in the fight, I am just telling you while there are errors, they arent enough to make tens of thousands of extra rapes and murders. In the link you provided I guess is supposed to be an indictment of how inaccurate the statistics are. Allow me to quote the summary: An estimated 4.17% of all records reported for the population of 12 law enforcement agencies in this study were misclassified. OK, so I guess I just dont find that shocking, in fact I would think human error would make that number higher alone. if thats your best example of sloppy reporting Im going to go ahead and claim victory on this one. ----NOW ------>PLEASE <------ONE AT A TIME ADDRESS THE FALSE STATEMENTS ABOUT EITHER THE 10 POINTS OR OBAMAS POSITION ON EACH OF THEM AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IT LETS SEE THE SMOKING GUN ON HOW THE UCR HAS MADE ERRORS IN MILLIONS OF CRIMES THAT REALLY NEVER HAPPENED!!!! |
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