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Thu 02/07/13 04:47 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Thu 02/07/13 04:47 PM
Rotate pic. take pic without camera in shot. get closer to camera. :smile:

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Thu 02/07/13 03:28 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Thu 02/07/13 03:33 PM


(nice)Lips, (nice)Legs, (good)Logic and Likes to Learn new thing with a Loveable Laugh, never Lies .. on the bed in lingerie when time to play :thumbsup:


noway Good logic from a woman?
What a fantasy that is.






Uh oh. Here come the rocks.




Logic is not gender based. I've been all over and not met a man with good logic in a decade.

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Thu 02/07/13 03:24 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Thu 02/07/13 03:28 PM
Well, seeings how I waited ALL day for this thread to develop something for me to read, and we've just started the 2nd page....grumble
I'm saying this in hopes to invoke some more posts.

I think all men want is a Fleshlight and a computer. Period.
That's all they need too! lol :smile:
Except for maybe someone to do their chores and cook for them....maybe.
Some don't even care about that.

I dare this thread to go somewhere lol
I might even predict that it won't because most men don't want anything from women but a comfortable sex partner, so there's not much to post.
hahahahahah!!! Come-n-get-it!
rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Thu 02/07/13 03:15 PM


What men expect from women... Ok boys get ready to answer...



Do you mean what men want from women or what men expect to get from women?



There's a difference???
laugh laugh laugh

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Thu 02/07/13 03:07 PM










No...I wouldn't even think about it...and that goes for her purse, billfold, jacket pockets, or anything else she may have left behind.

I think it speaks to an invasion of personal privacy and opens the door to mistrust...and that is one door i would much prefer to remain closed and locked.


this totally. it has never even crossed my mind, ever, to do so.


This only means to me that you've never been deeply betrayed and then tried to have a relationship afterwards....it's normal to be untrusting when you've been stabbed in the back over and over.
Tell me this... if you live in the same house, how the heck are you supposed to stay out of all these private places required by your partner? Why bother keeping things private? What are you hiding? Now if someone is looking through your stuff and you've never, ever done anything to them to warrant that, maybe you need to have a conversation with them and offer your support to help them get over their insecurities. Hell, maybe you are doing something that looks shady to the other and that's why looking through your things has become an option??? Seems there's tons of people in these forums that walk away at the drop of a hat. This is not how to have a lasting relationship. Just saying.


I agreed with them, so here's my take on it.

I have definitely been betrayed, but I do not, transfer that to another individual. Each person deserves the chance to earn my trust, though their words matching their actions. I am big on that idea. Yes I can be skeptical about certain actions or track records that some bring to the table. I judge each person separately, not lump them into my issues of not trusting. I go with my gut instinct about people and I observe them without judging, unless something I perceive needs to be brought up.

If someone was needing something from any of those "places", they should ask and I would be more than happy to show or let them look through it if need be, as I wouldn't be hiding anything. If something seems shady, then ask about it. If someone needed to snoop, then I would consider them not trusting me, and a breakdown is already on its way is it not? Someone who would snoop would set me off thinking, they are a control freak, paranoid and possibly very insecure. I am very independent and don't want or need someone with those temperaments, nor do I want to have to be looking over my shoulder at them. If I want that type of excitement, I'll go to the amusement park and ride the roller coasters there...

Example: If I have a few friends who send picts of funny, stupid shyte sometimes and I surely don't want to be grilled about the findings of this non-issue stuff. "They" shouldn't have been into in the first place, at least without asking, imo.



I judge each person separate too, but I will not forget the lesson I learned by being "trusting" (more like ignorant). If I didn't become smarter than I was before being burned, then I went through it in vain.
All that you said still doesn't explain to me why you'd care about someone going through your stuff. It's not always about not trusting you...sometimes it's just fun to go through what someone owns. Control freak? I wonder what that means to you. Control of what? Their own life? And who they are trusting WITH their life? Do you have any idea how many really scary rotten men are out there posing as good respectable men? They don't show any other characteristics of just how scary they are. So investigating is necessary to me to protect myself. If a man cares for me and has nothing to hide, he wouldn't care what I went through as long as I didn't throw anything away lol I've had 3 very long term relationships where not one of them cared I went through their stuff. I've never heard of this privacy thing. There IS no privacy in a intimate relationship.
Ok, except for a journal lol


I haven't forgot any lesson's I've learned. I am not always trusting, as it comes in time and with actions. I am smarter than before those experiences.

I'm not scared to let someone go through my stuff as I've been in long term relationships and married as well. Ask and you shall receive in that case. If its fun to go through others stuff, go to garage sales or out to the trash bins on wednesdays, get a national enquirer or something else to focus on....lol

I do understand that Men and Women can be scary for many reasons. I wouldn't live with them or get too involved if I didn't feel we had trust in the first place. I just don't automatically put them into those categories without reason. So it is always a risk, letting someone get close period. I do observe, pay attention, communicate and such, as to get to know the woman I'm investing time with. Lets just say that with all words said, some may be read into the wrong way, dissected and misconstrued. If I have to justify each thought, word or occurrence in my general communications because enquiring minds want to know, that spells Trouble. If a woman feels the need to keep me within the gates of all her personal beliefs or boundaries, Im not for her. I won't ever walk on eggshells again.

No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business?
or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently?
Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave?

You see, it starts there and can go further for those who may feel that need. I do understand your feelings and justification.

No bueno for me.






"No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business? "
It depends what I am doing...and no, we weren't describing this type of privacy. We are talking about cell phones. Why hide what is in your cell phone? If you have stuff in there you can't show your partner, you shouldn't be trusted right there.

"or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently? "
WTF??? Who DOES that????? wait... don't answer. I'd say have at it if you enjoy such things or want to know what my panties smell like that bad. I don't care. My panties are fine JUST the way they are thank you, and I still have nothing to hide in my panties! hahahha!!!laugh

"Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave? "
This wasn't ever part of this topic. I'm not going here. Let's compare apples with apples here.

It doesn't have to progress... I simply said I cannot know who my man really is until I've checked all his stuff! lol
If I've wasted an entire year on getting to know this guy, then find out he's a massive child molester I'm not going to be a happy girl! That's all I'm saying. Men don't really have this to worry about do they!?!? That's right... its us women that have to worry about Mr. Pervo out there. I'm not waiting to find out years down the line because I trusted him and let him keep everything he wanted private. NO BUENO noway



OMG. This is too damn funny!!!!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

...To add to that, I had a pervy ex that was all into sniffing and 'collecting' women's worn panties.
I wonder, at times, if he wasn't the only one that did that.. surprised



Yes, I had to laugh while writing some of this shyte. laugh

Just to clarify...I am not Snoopy, or Sniffer or Mr Recorder, but have heard about these types of things being done.

If you have no trust with the cell, what's next? That's my point. frustrated

Purses, Wallets,.....could be lots of info right?
Panties...Some women have been caught cheating this way believe it or not.
Recording...to catch someone saying something, behind your back, you wouldn't otherwise.

Where do you draw this line?whoa

I draw it upfront. If you want in my cell ask. If not your breaking and entering and Its adios. I am a decent dude, and your going to treat me like one or I go find someone who will. Simple. I would expect the same.










Oh about the panties thing. How would u know if the woman cheated based on her panties...Is it bc of the stains? Not the usual spots, I'm taking it. laugh

Oh, and I only 'snoop' when the dude gives me reason to not trust him, or I caught him in previous lies. Otherwise, his phone aint all that interesting. Btw, we already know about men's Black Book...those things they call their cell phones...and how they keep the number of every woman they've ever met in their entire life...ya know , for 'just in case' rofl










EXACTLY!! :wink:

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Thu 02/07/13 02:49 PM









No...I wouldn't even think about it...and that goes for her purse, billfold, jacket pockets, or anything else she may have left behind.

I think it speaks to an invasion of personal privacy and opens the door to mistrust...and that is one door i would much prefer to remain closed and locked.


this totally. it has never even crossed my mind, ever, to do so.


This only means to me that you've never been deeply betrayed and then tried to have a relationship afterwards....it's normal to be untrusting when you've been stabbed in the back over and over.
Tell me this... if you live in the same house, how the heck are you supposed to stay out of all these private places required by your partner? Why bother keeping things private? What are you hiding? Now if someone is looking through your stuff and you've never, ever done anything to them to warrant that, maybe you need to have a conversation with them and offer your support to help them get over their insecurities. Hell, maybe you are doing something that looks shady to the other and that's why looking through your things has become an option??? Seems there's tons of people in these forums that walk away at the drop of a hat. This is not how to have a lasting relationship. Just saying.


I agreed with them, so here's my take on it.

I have definitely been betrayed, but I do not, transfer that to another individual. Each person deserves the chance to earn my trust, though their words matching their actions. I am big on that idea. Yes I can be skeptical about certain actions or track records that some bring to the table. I judge each person separately, not lump them into my issues of not trusting. I go with my gut instinct about people and I observe them without judging, unless something I perceive needs to be brought up.

If someone was needing something from any of those "places", they should ask and I would be more than happy to show or let them look through it if need be, as I wouldn't be hiding anything. If something seems shady, then ask about it. If someone needed to snoop, then I would consider them not trusting me, and a breakdown is already on its way is it not? Someone who would snoop would set me off thinking, they are a control freak, paranoid and possibly very insecure. I am very independent and don't want or need someone with those temperaments, nor do I want to have to be looking over my shoulder at them. If I want that type of excitement, I'll go to the amusement park and ride the roller coasters there...

Example: If I have a few friends who send picts of funny, stupid shyte sometimes and I surely don't want to be grilled about the findings of this non-issue stuff. "They" shouldn't have been into in the first place, at least without asking, imo.



I judge each person separate too, but I will not forget the lesson I learned by being "trusting" (more like ignorant). If I didn't become smarter than I was before being burned, then I went through it in vain.
All that you said still doesn't explain to me why you'd care about someone going through your stuff. It's not always about not trusting you...sometimes it's just fun to go through what someone owns. Control freak? I wonder what that means to you. Control of what? Their own life? And who they are trusting WITH their life? Do you have any idea how many really scary rotten men are out there posing as good respectable men? They don't show any other characteristics of just how scary they are. So investigating is necessary to me to protect myself. If a man cares for me and has nothing to hide, he wouldn't care what I went through as long as I didn't throw anything away lol I've had 3 very long term relationships where not one of them cared I went through their stuff. I've never heard of this privacy thing. There IS no privacy in a intimate relationship.
Ok, except for a journal lol


I haven't forgot any lesson's I've learned. I am not always trusting, as it comes in time and with actions. I am smarter than before those experiences.

I'm not scared to let someone go through my stuff as I've been in long term relationships and married as well. Ask and you shall receive in that case. If its fun to go through others stuff, go to garage sales or out to the trash bins on wednesdays, get a national enquirer or something else to focus on....lol

I do understand that Men and Women can be scary for many reasons. I wouldn't live with them or get too involved if I didn't feel we had trust in the first place. I just don't automatically put them into those categories without reason. So it is always a risk, letting someone get close period. I do observe, pay attention, communicate and such, as to get to know the woman I'm investing time with. Lets just say that with all words said, some may be read into the wrong way, dissected and misconstrued. If I have to justify each thought, word or occurrence in my general communications because enquiring minds want to know, that spells Trouble. If a woman feels the need to keep me within the gates of all her personal beliefs or boundaries, Im not for her. I won't ever walk on eggshells again.

No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business?
or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently?
Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave?

You see, it starts there and can go further for those who may feel that need. I do understand your feelings and justification.

No bueno for me.






"No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business? "
It depends what I am doing...and no, we weren't describing this type of privacy. We are talking about cell phones. Why hide what is in your cell phone? If you have stuff in there you can't show your partner, you shouldn't be trusted right there.

"or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently? "
WTF??? Who DOES that????? wait... don't answer. I'd say have at it if you enjoy such things or want to know what my panties smell like that bad. I don't care. My panties are fine JUST the way they are thank you, and I still have nothing to hide in my panties! hahahha!!!laugh

"Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave? "
This wasn't ever part of this topic. I'm not going here. Let's compare apples with apples here.

It doesn't have to progress... I simply said I cannot know who my man really is until I've checked all his stuff! lol
If I've wasted an entire year on getting to know this guy, then find out he's a massive child molester I'm not going to be a happy girl! That's all I'm saying. Men don't really have this to worry about do they!?!? That's right... its us women that have to worry about Mr. Pervo out there. I'm not waiting to find out years down the line because I trusted him and let him keep everything he wanted private. NO BUENO noway



OMG. This is too damn funny!!!!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

...To add to that, I had a pervy ex that was all into sniffing and 'collecting' women's worn panties.
I wonder, at times, if he wasn't the only one that did that.. surprised



Yes, I had to laugh while writing some of this shyte. laugh

Just to clarify...I am not Snoopy, or Sniffer or Mr Recorder, but have heard about these types of things being done.

If you have no trust with the cell, what's next? That's my point. frustrated

Purses, Wallets,.....could be lots of info right?
Panties...Some women have been caught cheating this way believe it or not.
Recording...to catch someone saying something, behind your back, you wouldn't otherwise.

Where do you draw this line?whoa

I draw it upfront. If you want in my cell ask. If not your breaking and entering and Its adios. I am a decent dude, and your going to treat me like one or I go find someone who will. Simple. I would expect the same.









Asking first is fine... just don't say no or I'll think you're hiding! hahahahahah!! So if there's no reason to say "no you can't look in my phone".. .why ask first? hahahahah!!! Like Nike says:
JUST DO IT!!! lol

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Thu 02/07/13 02:24 PM








No...I wouldn't even think about it...and that goes for her purse, billfold, jacket pockets, or anything else she may have left behind.

I think it speaks to an invasion of personal privacy and opens the door to mistrust...and that is one door i would much prefer to remain closed and locked.


this totally. it has never even crossed my mind, ever, to do so.


This only means to me that you've never been deeply betrayed and then tried to have a relationship afterwards....it's normal to be untrusting when you've been stabbed in the back over and over.
Tell me this... if you live in the same house, how the heck are you supposed to stay out of all these private places required by your partner? Why bother keeping things private? What are you hiding? Now if someone is looking through your stuff and you've never, ever done anything to them to warrant that, maybe you need to have a conversation with them and offer your support to help them get over their insecurities. Hell, maybe you are doing something that looks shady to the other and that's why looking through your things has become an option??? Seems there's tons of people in these forums that walk away at the drop of a hat. This is not how to have a lasting relationship. Just saying.


I agreed with them, so here's my take on it.

I have definitely been betrayed, but I do not, transfer that to another individual. Each person deserves the chance to earn my trust, though their words matching their actions. I am big on that idea. Yes I can be skeptical about certain actions or track records that some bring to the table. I judge each person separately, not lump them into my issues of not trusting. I go with my gut instinct about people and I observe them without judging, unless something I perceive needs to be brought up.

If someone was needing something from any of those "places", they should ask and I would be more than happy to show or let them look through it if need be, as I wouldn't be hiding anything. If something seems shady, then ask about it. If someone needed to snoop, then I would consider them not trusting me, and a breakdown is already on its way is it not? Someone who would snoop would set me off thinking, they are a control freak, paranoid and possibly very insecure. I am very independent and don't want or need someone with those temperaments, nor do I want to have to be looking over my shoulder at them. If I want that type of excitement, I'll go to the amusement park and ride the roller coasters there...

Example: If I have a few friends who send picts of funny, stupid shyte sometimes and I surely don't want to be grilled about the findings of this non-issue stuff. "They" shouldn't have been into in the first place, at least without asking, imo.



I judge each person separate too, but I will not forget the lesson I learned by being "trusting" (more like ignorant). If I didn't become smarter than I was before being burned, then I went through it in vain.
All that you said still doesn't explain to me why you'd care about someone going through your stuff. It's not always about not trusting you...sometimes it's just fun to go through what someone owns. Control freak? I wonder what that means to you. Control of what? Their own life? And who they are trusting WITH their life? Do you have any idea how many really scary rotten men are out there posing as good respectable men? They don't show any other characteristics of just how scary they are. So investigating is necessary to me to protect myself. If a man cares for me and has nothing to hide, he wouldn't care what I went through as long as I didn't throw anything away lol I've had 3 very long term relationships where not one of them cared I went through their stuff. I've never heard of this privacy thing. There IS no privacy in a intimate relationship.
Ok, except for a journal lol


I haven't forgot any lesson's I've learned. I am not always trusting, as it comes in time and with actions. I am smarter than before those experiences.

I'm not scared to let someone go through my stuff as I've been in long term relationships and married as well. Ask and you shall receive in that case. If its fun to go through others stuff, go to garage sales or out to the trash bins on wednesdays, get a national enquirer or something else to focus on....lol

I do understand that Men and Women can be scary for many reasons. I wouldn't live with them or get too involved if I didn't feel we had trust in the first place. I just don't automatically put them into those categories without reason. So it is always a risk, letting someone get close period. I do observe, pay attention, communicate and such, as to get to know the woman I'm investing time with. Lets just say that with all words said, some may be read into the wrong way, dissected and misconstrued. If I have to justify each thought, word or occurrence in my general communications because enquiring minds want to know, that spells Trouble. If a woman feels the need to keep me within the gates of all her personal beliefs or boundaries, Im not for her. I won't ever walk on eggshells again.

No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business?
or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently?
Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave?

You see, it starts there and can go further for those who may feel that need. I do understand your feelings and justification.

No bueno for me.






"No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business? "
It depends what I am doing...and no, we weren't describing this type of privacy. We are talking about cell phones. Why hide what is in your cell phone? If you have stuff in there you can't show your partner, you shouldn't be trusted right there.

"or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently? "
WTF??? Who DOES that????? wait... don't answer. I'd say have at it if you enjoy such things or want to know what my panties smell like that bad. I don't care. My panties are fine JUST the way they are thank you, and I still have nothing to hide in my panties! hahahha!!!laugh

"Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave? "
This wasn't ever part of this topic. I'm not going here. Let's compare apples with apples here.

It doesn't have to progress... I simply said I cannot know who my man really is until I've checked all his stuff! lol
If I've wasted an entire year on getting to know this guy, then find out he's a massive child molester I'm not going to be a happy girl! That's all I'm saying. Men don't really have this to worry about do they!?!? That's right... its us women that have to worry about Mr. Pervo out there. I'm not waiting to find out years down the line because I trusted him and let him keep everything he wanted private. NO BUENO noway



OMG. This is too damn funny!!!!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

...To add to that, I had a pervy ex that was all into sniffing and 'collecting' women's worn panties.
I wonder, at times, if he wasn't the only one that did that.. surprised




hahahahahahh!!!! Now we know!!!
rofl rofl rofl

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Thu 02/07/13 02:07 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Thu 02/07/13 02:09 PM






No...I wouldn't even think about it...and that goes for her purse, billfold, jacket pockets, or anything else she may have left behind.

I think it speaks to an invasion of personal privacy and opens the door to mistrust...and that is one door i would much prefer to remain closed and locked.


this totally. it has never even crossed my mind, ever, to do so.


This only means to me that you've never been deeply betrayed and then tried to have a relationship afterwards....it's normal to be untrusting when you've been stabbed in the back over and over.
Tell me this... if you live in the same house, how the heck are you supposed to stay out of all these private places required by your partner? Why bother keeping things private? What are you hiding? Now if someone is looking through your stuff and you've never, ever done anything to them to warrant that, maybe you need to have a conversation with them and offer your support to help them get over their insecurities. Hell, maybe you are doing something that looks shady to the other and that's why looking through your things has become an option??? Seems there's tons of people in these forums that walk away at the drop of a hat. This is not how to have a lasting relationship. Just saying.


I agreed with them, so here's my take on it.

I have definitely been betrayed, but I do not, transfer that to another individual. Each person deserves the chance to earn my trust, though their words matching their actions. I am big on that idea. Yes I can be skeptical about certain actions or track records that some bring to the table. I judge each person separately, not lump them into my issues of not trusting. I go with my gut instinct about people and I observe them without judging, unless something I perceive needs to be brought up.

If someone was needing something from any of those "places", they should ask and I would be more than happy to show or let them look through it if need be, as I wouldn't be hiding anything. If something seems shady, then ask about it. If someone needed to snoop, then I would consider them not trusting me, and a breakdown is already on its way is it not? Someone who would snoop would set me off thinking, they are a control freak, paranoid and possibly very insecure. I am very independent and don't want or need someone with those temperaments, nor do I want to have to be looking over my shoulder at them. If I want that type of excitement, I'll go to the amusement park and ride the roller coasters there...

Example: If I have a few friends who send picts of funny, stupid shyte sometimes and I surely don't want to be grilled about the findings of this non-issue stuff. "They" shouldn't have been into in the first place, at least without asking, imo.



I judge each person separate too, but I will not forget the lesson I learned by being "trusting" (more like ignorant). If I didn't become smarter than I was before being burned, then I went through it in vain.
All that you said still doesn't explain to me why you'd care about someone going through your stuff. It's not always about not trusting you...sometimes it's just fun to go through what someone owns. Control freak? I wonder what that means to you. Control of what? Their own life? And who they are trusting WITH their life? Do you have any idea how many really scary rotten men are out there posing as good respectable men? They don't show any other characteristics of just how scary they are. So investigating is necessary to me to protect myself. If a man cares for me and has nothing to hide, he wouldn't care what I went through as long as I didn't throw anything away lol I've had 3 very long term relationships where not one of them cared I went through their stuff. I've never heard of this privacy thing. There IS no privacy in a intimate relationship.
Ok, except for a journal lol


I haven't forgot any lesson's I've learned. I am not always trusting, as it comes in time and with actions. I am smarter than before those experiences.

I'm not scared to let someone go through my stuff as I've been in long term relationships and married as well. Ask and you shall receive in that case. If its fun to go through others stuff, go to garage sales or out to the trash bins on wednesdays, get a national enquirer or something else to focus on....lol

I do understand that Men and Women can be scary for many reasons. I wouldn't live with them or get too involved if I didn't feel we had trust in the first place. I just don't automatically put them into those categories without reason. So it is always a risk, letting someone get close period. I do observe, pay attention, communicate and such, as to get to know the woman I'm investing time with. Lets just say that with all words said, some may be read into the wrong way, dissected and misconstrued. If I have to justify each thought, word or occurrence in my general communications because enquiring minds want to know, that spells Trouble. If a woman feels the need to keep me within the gates of all her personal beliefs or boundaries, Im not for her. I won't ever walk on eggshells again.

No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business?
or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently?
Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave?

You see, it starts there and can go further for those who may feel that need. I do understand your feelings and justification.

No bueno for me.






"No privacy at all in an intimate relationship?
So it's ok If I barge into the bathroom while your doing your business? "
It depends what I am doing...and no, we weren't describing this type of privacy. We are talking about cell phones. Why hide what is in your cell phone? If you have stuff in there you can't show your partner, you shouldn't be trusted right there.

"or how about sniffing or testing your panties frequently? "
WTF??? Who DOES that????? wait... don't answer. I'd say have at it if you enjoy such things or want to know what my panties smell like that bad. I don't care. My panties are fine JUST the way they are thank you, and I still have nothing to hide in my panties! hahahha!!!laugh

"Putting a recorder somewhere hidden, to catch your conversations with your friends or Mother? Following you around, when you leave? "
This wasn't ever part of this topic. I'm not going here. Let's compare apples with apples here.

It doesn't have to progress... I simply said I cannot know who my man really is until I've checked all his stuff! lol
If I've wasted an entire year on getting to know this guy, then find out he's a massive child molester I'm not going to be a happy girl! That's all I'm saying. Men don't really have this to worry about do they!?!? That's right... its us women that have to worry about Mr. Pervo out there. I'm not waiting to find out years down the line because I trusted him and let him keep everything he wanted private. NO BUENO noway

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Thu 02/07/13 12:03 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Thu 02/07/13 12:15 PM




No...I wouldn't even think about it...and that goes for her purse, billfold, jacket pockets, or anything else she may have left behind.

I think it speaks to an invasion of personal privacy and opens the door to mistrust...and that is one door i would much prefer to remain closed and locked.


this totally. it has never even crossed my mind, ever, to do so.


This only means to me that you've never been deeply betrayed and then tried to have a relationship afterwards....it's normal to be untrusting when you've been stabbed in the back over and over.
Tell me this... if you live in the same house, how the heck are you supposed to stay out of all these private places required by your partner? Why bother keeping things private? What are you hiding? Now if someone is looking through your stuff and you've never, ever done anything to them to warrant that, maybe you need to have a conversation with them and offer your support to help them get over their insecurities. Hell, maybe you are doing something that looks shady to the other and that's why looking through your things has become an option??? Seems there's tons of people in these forums that walk away at the drop of a hat. This is not how to have a lasting relationship. Just saying.


I agreed with them, so here's my take on it.

I have definitely been betrayed, but I do not, transfer that to another individual. Each person deserves the chance to earn my trust, though their words matching their actions. I am big on that idea. Yes I can be skeptical about certain actions or track records that some bring to the table. I judge each person separately, not lump them into my issues of not trusting. I go with my gut instinct about people and I observe them without judging, unless something I perceive needs to be brought up.

If someone was needing something from any of those "places", they should ask and I would be more than happy to show or let them look through it if need be, as I wouldn't be hiding anything. If something seems shady, then ask about it. If someone needed to snoop, then I would consider them not trusting me, and a breakdown is already on its way is it not? Someone who would snoop would set me off thinking, they are a control freak, paranoid and possibly very insecure. I am very independent and don't want or need someone with those temperaments, nor do I want to have to be looking over my shoulder at them. If I want that type of excitement, I'll go to the amusement park and ride the roller coasters there...

Example: If I have a few friends who send picts of funny, stupid shyte sometimes and I surely don't want to be grilled about the findings of this non-issue stuff. "They" shouldn't have been into in the first place, at least without asking, imo.



I judge each person separate too, but I will not forget the lesson I learned by being "trusting" (more like ignorant). If I didn't become smarter than I was before being burned, then I went through it in vain.
All that you said still doesn't explain to me why you'd care about someone going through your stuff. It's not always about not trusting you...sometimes it's just fun to go through what someone owns. Control freak? I wonder what that means to you. Control of what? Their own life? And who they are trusting WITH their life? Do you have any idea how many really scary rotten men are out there posing as good respectable men? They don't show any other characteristics of just how scary they are. So investigating is necessary to me to protect myself. If a man cares for me and has nothing to hide, he wouldn't care what I went through as long as I didn't throw anything away lol I've had 3 very long term relationships where not one of them cared I went through their stuff. I've never heard of this privacy thing. There IS no privacy in a intimate relationship.
Ok, except for a journal lol

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Thu 02/07/13 11:38 AM

I'm not a troll. I do not post to provoke others. I post my opinions on a given subject based on my experience.

What I've found is as long as I treat women like play things they chase me begging for more. As soon as I start to value their views and opinions, they begin losing interest. It's like Groucho Marx said; "tell a woman she can't join your club and she'll do almost anything to get in."


Then I have no idea what planet you are living on.
I know SO many women.. and not one would entertain a "scoundrel" for one minute. But I know mostly strong women that don't like begging for anything. Women aren't accustomed to begging for sex anyway...they've never really had to. Always a man willing.

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Thu 02/07/13 11:34 AM

i expect a women to have a vagina..:banana:


yup here we go lmao
and THAT'S ALL you need too!! ahahahahha!!!

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Thu 02/07/13 11:23 AM
Personally, I think you are all too trusting. lol
Someone has something to hide if they are nervous of their phone.
I look through everything and I am not ashamed. I've been doing that since I was a little girl with my mothers wallet and purse. lol
It's FUN to see what a person has. It can tell you small things about them too. It's not always to be nosy or jealous etc.

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Thu 02/07/13 11:15 AM
YES!!!!YES!!! YES!!!!

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Thu 02/07/13 11:10 AM
sleeping? It's 2 in the afternoon EST
They are scared to reveal pitchfork muahhahaha!
They know I am waiting here for them hahahahah!!!

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Thu 02/07/13 11:05 AM


No...I wouldn't even think about it...and that goes for her purse, billfold, jacket pockets, or anything else she may have left behind.

I think it speaks to an invasion of personal privacy and opens the door to mistrust...and that is one door i would much prefer to remain closed and locked.


this totally. it has never even crossed my mind, ever, to do so.


This only means to me that you've never been deeply betrayed and then tried to have a relationship afterwards....it's normal to be untrusting when you've been stabbed in the back over and over.
Tell me this... if you live in the same house, how the heck are you supposed to stay out of all these private places required by your partner? Why bother keeping things private? What are you hiding? Now if someone is looking through your stuff and you've never, ever done anything to them to warrant that, maybe you need to have a conversation with them and offer your support to help them get over their insecurities. Hell, maybe you are doing something that looks shady to the other and that's why looking through your things has become an option??? Seems there's tons of people in these forums that walk away at the drop of a hat. This is not how to have a lasting relationship. Just saying.

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Thu 02/07/13 10:58 AM



I use these "Terms of endearment" for just that
Terms of endearment to people i like
Or that i am trying to get to know better
It is a nicety to me
If someone can't take being called a nice or sweet name than maybe they should tell the potential friend so ?
Or even better give the person a name they prefer to the terms of endearment ?

{So that's why i get ignored so much...lol}
Don't care either !
Guess i'll never learn...
:wink:
KiK





yes you do... but you do it right flowerforyou


Thank you Girl !
You are a sweet lady

:smile:



See??? That in itself, was sweet...:smile:

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Thu 02/07/13 10:52 AM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Thu 02/07/13 10:57 AM

I use these "Terms of endearment" for just that
Terms of endearment to people i like
Or that i am trying to get to know better
It is a nicety to me
If someone can't take being called a nice or sweet name than maybe they should tell the potential friend so ?
Or even better give the person a name they prefer to the terms of endearment ?

{So that's why i get ignored so much...lol}
Don't care either !
Guess i'll never learn...
:wink:
KiK





yes you do... but you do it right flowerforyou
You don't come across as creepy with it.
I saw that it was just sweet coming from you.
You should read some of the stuff that other guys can say though.

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Thu 02/07/13 10:51 AM



This is an international site, and as such I believe there is a need to be tolerant of how people from different parts of the world address others, even strangers. To take offense by someone addressing you for the first time in a away you don't like is a bit petty to say the least in my opinion. Surely the gist of the first email, or subsequent emails if there are any, provide a far better indicator of the person than how you were addressed for the first time.


I also think as this is an International site; one needs to be aware of how different cultures will react to what you think is minor or petty.


I am not saying don't be cautious of how you address others. I am saying we should be tolerant of how others address us, to quickly condemn someone because they have greeted you for the first time in a way you do not like is being petty in my opinion. Everyone will not be as cautious as you are and we should accept that, it has already been said by many others in this thread, that depending on where you live casual greetings to all, including strangers, can be very different, without any offense being meant and in my opinion none should be taken.



I agree with a lot of this post... however.. if we are talking about an American man, and an American woman... men should know how to behave as to not offend. If they don't? bye! I don't have time to waste on someone that doesn't even know how to address me in an email.

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Thu 02/07/13 10:45 AM






I typically find that emails using baby, honey, sweetie and other terms of endearments, are from scammers or fakes.. excuses or reasons aside for using them.. a simple Hi, how are you? or something similar is preferable on initial contact..

I just feel that using any form of intimacy before knowing another is disrespectful, which creates an immediate distrust and wariness.. at least it does for me..


Yep; I agree with what you said and yes I would find it disrespectful too.
:thumbsup:


No you don't NG... you're a hot sexy thang and you know it.
No disrespect intended.

Point being... you can sluff-off any slow-witted come-on, any day of the week, yes?
What makes this site different?


First thanks for the kind compliment as you make an old gal feel good.
A person crosses the line when they disrespect me in my uniform. Don't forget; I have people to command and when someone does that; it makes me look weak and I won't be taken seriously. Out of uniform; I probably wouldn't even respond to their comments and would just ignore them.
"Thanks for the compliment? She just said she finds that kind of approach "disrespectful"?


Its not disrespectful as we have chatted on many occassions so this person is not a complete stranger. He also is not saying this to me as I am commanding people. Bottom line; there is a time and place for this. Would you call a cop hun when he pulled you over? How about a court judge when you are in court? Your child's teacher when you are having a parent teacher interview? There are times when this is very inappropriate and its worse coming from a stranger.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Thu 02/07/13 10:43 AM

To be fair, calling someone 'baby' or 'honey' without knowing them is a bit much and to some, disrespectful. It is true, every so often people are just being kind but there is a lot of arrogant males who are out just for some play who use sweet words as bait for their own hidden agendas. I've seen it done far too many times... makes the rest of us look bad. I'm kind of on the fence as I think there are some elements that would be fine to say on the profile, but more often than not most things are best left for conversation or as you said, to be posted on a forum. The woman may be broken, but more than likely, she has good reason. Doesnt do anybody any good to judge her and then make a post about it. You made some good points but I believe went about it in a less-than-optimal way.

I have a problem simplifying... willowdraga said it best. Respect~


hear hear!! exactly.
I get that all the time from men here...and I also hate it.
It tells me exactly why they are still single and looking like homeless dogs for their next meal. I am still polite to them right now...but I may get just as fed up as this woman's profile reflects.
It is ridiculous to use terms of endearment on the first email or even the 10th! Just tells me they are the unrefined type. I say hello and never answer another from them. I'm glad this woman put that on her profile, might teach some guys something...however, I wouldn't hold my breath.

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