Promoted English as an elective foreign language.

Humor is a funny thing? May I qutoe you? That sounds like something that "W" said.

Call Jerry Springer. He gets everyone to come out of the closet.

'The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country'
- George W. Bush

'If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.'
- George W. Bush

'One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and thatone word is 'to be prepared'.'
-George W. Bush

'I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments inthe future.'
- George W. Bush

'The future will be better tomorrow.'
- George W. Bush

'We're going to have the best educated American people in the world.'
- George W. Bush

'I stand by all the misstatements that I've made.'
- George W Bush

'We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a
firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe '
- George W. Bush

'Public speaking is very easy.'
- George W. Bush

'A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the
polls.'
- George W. Bush

'I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't
always agree with them.'
-George Bush

'We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur.'
- George W. Bush

'For NASA, space is still a high priority.'
-George W. Bush

'Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our
children.'
-George W. Bush

'It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it.'
- George W. Bush

Did "THEY" say how many of the 20% or so that were released and found to be combatants after release may be 1st time combatants merely reacting with justifiable anger to having had their *sses "detained" for 6 years? Did "THEY" mention, how many were pissed of at their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers and children being killed or maimed by us or their livlihoods and property destroyed?

One would have thought that several years of "re-edducatgion" in a cushy Caribbean hell hole would have redirected their anger at our invading & occupying their countries. Yeah, shoot them and their kids, is prob ably the most patriotic and humane thing for us to do with them thar ungrateful foreignors.

OK, I am available, Tuesdays and Thursdays and on visiting days.

Most of those captured in theater are imprisoned, in theater, Thousands of the are in Iraqi/US and Afghan/US facilities. Those that we deemed as higher value for intel, or those abducted in other countries like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed also were either reditiond or brought to Gitmo.

Once again, there is no legally justifiable excuse but a pragmatic one for Gitmo. Much as Colin Powell pointed out the Pottery Barn Rule of us owning that which we broke, we have a tiger by the tail and own the detainees.

Other then a handful like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed , we would be better served to drop their butts in Afhanastad and shoot them as they leave the airfield or put up with the fact that we delivered a few foot soldiers. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed we try as war criminals and or murderers and locke them in a Super Max. Better a handfull then a couple hundred meaningless foot soldiers.

Respectfully, they are not. If they were, we would indeed be guilty of Geneva Convention War crimes. There are strict rules regarding POWs and POWs were in fact housed in the US. Fort Stweard (Anniston, Al house Italian POWs and the O Club walls have murals painted by one of them.

We can't have it that they are POWs or we're guilty not criminals without charges and trials or we are in violation of our own laws. They are in fact detainees. The Japanese Americans were detainees in California during WWII. They were allowed to live as familes and have a semblence of controlled refuge camp normalacy.

OK. Time for Civics 101. Few here will understand it and fewer will agree, but here goes.

I criminal trial is not about the guilt or innocence of the accused. Let me repeat. It is not about the guilt or innocence of the accused. It is about testing America and our resolve to live by the principles that we profess to believe in. To believe in and live by them not only in theory and in the best of times but in practice, in the worst of times.

A criminal trial is a morality play for all of us. If an accused jihadist detainee cannot receive a fair, impartial trial with the same rights that we declared (as justification for an act of treason) to be self evident for all men, then they aren’t self evident for any one. At one time, not for African-Americans, women, or other partial humans. (sarcasm intended)

If the presumptions of innocence and the burden to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt isn’t there for Mohammed, it isn’t there for Tom, ****, Harry or Jane.

No where in the Constitution does it say, fair trials for US Citizens and legal residence only. Illegal aliens, F U! Lest we forget, at the time of the Declaration and 13 years later, the Constitution, the countryside was replete with spies and fifth columnists and at no time in our history was our defense more precarious, yet at that time, the founding fathers saw fit to create a document that weakened not strengthen the Federal Government’s ability to deny individual liberties to ALL. They feared the terrorist/tyrant from within more then the one abroad.

Well there you are! Hawaii That's not even lefty-pinko California with their funny foreign fella governator. They eat sushi out there and weren't part of the original colonies, like Alaska and Sister Palin.

While I really am a bleeding heart, pinko commie, bed-wetting, trial attorney liberal, I think we should "LoJack every one of them with a tracking devise deep in their whatever and turn them loose, then.

As long as we can track them nuntil they undergo major surgery, which in their countries would be fatal anyway, we can gain intel or track them down and shoot them on the field of play.

I just hate f$#king with our legal system or excluding people because we have prejudged them to be what we hope tortuing them will prove.

And with this posting, let no one miss your nomme de plume or is it nomme de PC

You've restored my faith in the unbounding depths and creativity of a truly depraved yet delightfully kinky woman

Tormenting one's own child isn't really abuse. Not if they are realy grossed out and learn to fear and respect you for your ability to out gross them

You're sick depraved women. I like that!

And we could refuse those countries whatever they want or need.
In fact most of their countries did not refuse them, the countries that refused them were the countries we wanted to send them to. There is a difference


Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan are in positions to refuse, since we control their borders

As stated, the speedy trial guarantee is for those charged with a crime and the detainees, are not. On the other hand, they are not POWs as we are not at war with Iraq, Afghanistan or with any country that they claim or don't claim to represent. In fact one can not have a war with a tactic (terror) any more then we can have a war against obesity (although I would love to exchange prisoners in that war and get my 31" waist back, I do miss it so)

The pragmatic answer is as follows. Deport them to their country of citizenship with the express assurances of that country that they will be tried for violating their countries laws against murder, property destruction terroristic acts. flashing little girls and boys, and conducting acts of aggression against other countries. If the country of origin refuses to arrest, detain and try them, we should reconsider our diplomatic, economic and military relations with them and then, finally, a country can be held liable, in a traditional sense, for warring against us and we could then bomb the sh*t out of them as a declared enemy nation.

We cannot remain in the middle, neither fish nor fowl, but then it's just one knight-errant's opinion.

The oldest of cliche's is the answer. Once we open our mouths, we remove all doubts (verbally and online). We leave a paper trail online that they find incompatible with thier standards or lack thereof.

I get a kick out of someone who accesses the Constitution online, once, having the balls to tell someone that they need to read the Constitution when they do not have the slightest idea as to whom they may be chatting. The fact that I not only read it, I argued it before the Supremes on three occasion and actually won once or have read tens of thousands of cases, shouldn't dissuade you and your scholarly research. The fact is the reason why there is a Supreme Court is that very very knowledgeable and well read people can have different views of the interpretation of the few lines that we hold so dear, with no clue of their historical nor legal ramifications.

There is a dramatic difference between code and common law and some choose to treat the Constitution and the US legal system as a product of and dominated by code while others understand the tradition and merit of Common law, equity and Stare Decisis.

Difference between Southern Gals and Northern Gals:

Northern gal says "yes, you can!" Southerner says, "Y'all can!

Nothing stikes fear in the hear of an southerner like a yankee with a U-Haul.