to the O.P. -I hear ya- been there-done that....


however somewhere out there - were some decent human beings who would've done a good job and appreciated your kindness...

unfortunately they never crossed your path-


Karma will come back-it always does....

Agreed. I've been in that sort of position (not the hiring part, just the helping part) way too many times, with the same sort of results. Nobody appreciates anything, nobody cares.

People suck. Plain and simple. And I'm not doing anything for anybody ever again.

if by greater reward you mean a sense of compassion, then i agree. otherwise, 'nobody' is gonna be really disappointed in this life always expecting something in return, that's a sad outlook...IMHO.

hey.
i hate people too.
:D

I have a very tough time hiring people to help me. Likewise I am even more leery of friends working for me. It is tough having to do everything alone because of trust issues.!

While I'm totally empathetic to your personal and financial losses.....I think you need to step back and ask yourself.....

What did I hope to gain by helping her?
Was this friendship driven...or was it merely "fiendship"?
Nobody...with all due respect "helps" anyone unless they feel some greater reward in doing so.....
What was yours?

No need to throw the baby out with the bath water. This will pass. I have been "burned" for much more. Because....in the end, it's not where you start...it's where you end. and nobody gets out of this place ALIVE.
W

That's sad. I have faith in humanity, that no matter what happens, as a whole, we strive for more fairness and equality. It must be terrible to have so little faith and love for your own species. And the arrogance to believe that the world would be better if most people died (except for yourself, of course).



And since he didn't, he remains a father, husband and, I'm sure, a friend. I'm glad he didn't take his own life and I can't think of more than one person who has ever suggested that him dying would be a good thing.

Call Center for electricity.

I love being cussed at when the customers don't pay their electric bill and are 4 months late. I could only wish I was the one who got to flip the switch...

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In any case, I've sought God and have found Him not. Sorry dude.
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In any case, since you did not find God he doesn't exist? So when kids go on an Easter egg hunt, and if one doesn't find any eggs then the eggs didn't exist in the first place?

What a truly horrible thing to say. This is why so many leftists compare right wingers to Hitler (even though Hitler was a leftist), because you don't see us as political opponents, but as enemies. Purely evil and without good intent. In your mind, we (or many of us) wish for people to die or to be killed. It's a blindness, which I hope you learn to overcome.

And before you mention the tea partiers who have compared Obama to Hitler, you should know that most, if not all, have been LaRouche supporters. Lyndon LaRouche is so far to the left wing, that I doubt there are many who are further left.

What a truly horrible thing to say. This is why so many leftists compare right wingers to Hitler (even though Hitler was a leftist), because you don't see us as political opponents, but as enemies. Purely evil and without good intent. In your mind, we (or many of us) wish for people to die or to be killed. It's a blindness, which I hope you learn to overcome.

And before you mention the tea partiers who have compared Obama to Hitler, you should know that most, if not all, have been LaRouche supporters. Lyndon LaRouche is so far to the left wing, that I doubt there are many who are further left.

I'm very surprised that atheists, who claim to be the smartest of humanity, would make such obvious mistakes.

I never said hetero was the norm, I pointed out that Neal Bortz had ignored that possibility. Are you denying that it is a possibility? We don't know the genetics of sexuality, yet you pretend that you do. You might have an opinion, but we don't *know* how or if genetics effect sexuality. I'm not going to take the time to reply to all of your posts, because they all have the same characteristic flaws of the dogmatic atheist.

1) You start with the assumption that your religious opponent is wrong and then try to address his or her points.
2) You make assumptions about subjects, of which you have no knowledge, and you act as if your assumptions are facts.
3) You accuse your opponent of the crime of which you are guilty. For instance, you claim that I "make assumptions not based on facts". I haven't MADE any assumptions. I pointed out that there are possibilities which Neal Bortz ignored. That's not making an assumption, it's pointing out the obvious flaw in his thinking.
4) Perhaps worst of all, you read more into the post than was typed. I can communicate for myself, even when I don't do it well. If I don't explicitly say something, then you have no right to assume that I think or believe that way.

It seems that most of the people who have posted comments on this thread agree in concept, we are just splitting thin hairs.
I would still classify Religion as imaginary (existing only in the imagination, in our minds, made up)...but the trappings are real: Pope, bible (just another book), church buildings, etc....

How can a person who has a "personal relationship with Jesus" not be imagining this ???

The following is a well written list of 50 reasons why god is imaginary.

http://godisimaginary.com/index.htm


People are waking up !!!!
Evangelicals constitute not 25 percent of the U.S. population – as they have claimed – but at most 7 percent, and their numbers are falling, not rising. All these numbers come from the churches themselves. (Wicker, p. 67)
From 1980 to 2005 in the Southern Baptist Church, baptisms of people between eighteen and thirty four – in other words, their next generation of leaders – fell 40 percent, from 100,000 in 1980 to 60,000 in 2005.[3]
But the U.S. population grew by 27% during those 25 years, so the Baptists would have had to baptize 127,000 in 2005 just to stay even; they really fell by 52%.[4] In 2006, the Southern Baptists – who claim almost six times more members than any other white evangelical church – made a concerted effort to baptize one million people. Not only did they fall over two-thirds short, they actually baptized even fewer than they had the year before.[5]
You might think that some faith group must have grown during the last thirty years, and you’d be right: atheists and nonbelievers more than doubled in the eleven years between 1990 and 2001, from 14 million to 29 million: from 8% of the country to 14%. There are more than twice as many atheists and nonbelievers as there are evangelical Christians.[6] And since it’s hard to believe that all atheists/nonbelievers would be willing to confess that to pollsters, the number is probably much higher. From 2000 to 2005, church attendance fell in all fifty states.[7]

a more relevant question was when was the first time you decided to have homosexual/heterosexual SEX,,which is different than when you first had a 'feeling'

whats funny is that is EXACTLY what millions of young teenage girls do EVERY DAY,,, they decide they would like to TRY it,,,for whatever reasons,,, and the more SOCIETY expresses to these girls that its the natural and normal thing to do,,the more curious they become about trying it,,,

I just had to laugh out loud - that's funny.

Aside from the cryptic spin to justify hate and ignorance I recalled a situation that happened that I now view differently. Of course as a hobby I expose GOP hypocrisy but lately with all the bullying I myself have a different view of the situation below.

I often ripped on GOP Senator Larry Craig for his hypocrisy. Remember him? Here's his police photo from being caught engaging in a homosexual act at a Minneapolis Airport.

This pic was circulating around after it happened.



Well, I now feel bad for him. He grew up in a religious and insisting society in regards to "normal" sexuality. All those years he had to hide his sexual ID from friends and family...constituents etc...he was relegated to bathroom stalls because of this status as a Republican and a Christian. Even if he's been "cured" he's still gay or bisexual.

So now I apologize to him for the things I wrote..no, not to the GOP but him personally. I feel bad that he was not able to be who he is and still achieve his status as a Senator in the Republican Party.

I am thankful he did not kill himself and I hope him happiness.

I am sure some people here would have hoped he'd have killed himself.

You still have said nothing.

Let me explain it to you, since you and I aren't on the same page.

1) We don't know the cause of homosexuality.
2) We don't know if humans have a normal sexuality.

Neal Bortz assumed the answer of #1, based on an assumption he made about #2. My point was that a wrong assumption on #2 would lead to a faulty conclusion on #1. By stating that heterosexual must choose their sexual identity in order for homosexuals to choose theirs, Neal Bortz is assuming that humans don't have a normal sexuality, which may or may not be true.

You seem to add meaning to my previous post, which wasn't put there by me. I was commented on Neal Bortz's thinking process, not taking a stance on the subject. It's a really really good idea to try to address someone's actual post, not comment on what you believe their motivation is in making the post.

Nature is like a big salad, you never know what could be in it...

(now I have said it in a way even a child could understand it.)

What ignorance? Instead of insulting me like a child, why don't you address what I said. If the normal gender identity for humans is straight, nobody would have to make a decision to be straight, right? How is that logic flawed? What have I said that is ignorant?