Y'all gonna burn in hell Y'all should read your bible. Then Y'all would know what it says. Yes but not everyone here is Christian so why would they read the Bible With any subjects if you want accurate understanding on, it is best to read the source. Only arrogant people try to debate a subject they have not researched. Got nothing to do with being just Christian. |
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why would the US government want to take out ISIS, after all the US created and funds them. how many times did we "accidentally" air drop supplys to ISIS? they dont want to take them out because of all the profiteers of war, thats why they want to keep fighting and feeding the military industrial complex. TURE |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. |
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Is the coast clear?
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January, 2017, can't get here soon enough. gnome, you implying that something will change when that date comes? Obama proves that they are all the same. The idea that we (the people) live in a truly democratic system IS B.S. It is sadly the reality of most ALL the western 'democratic' political systems today. Peace |
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The Gallant man
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The Gallant Man Is Gallantry lost, or the word abused For now we feel less incline to use This term which does describe a man As brave, and fearless, able to withstand The dangers and foes that plague our lands This aggressive trait takes centre stand Leaves little room for the Nobel to sit. Not kings, nor Lords, or prize requisite Not fighters, or doers in fields unmatched But men who are ready to stand unabashed As gentle, respectful, considerately deemed Are these not the men of all women's dreams? Comfortable with silence, yet able to speak up hen the need is presented, to defend what he loves With some knowledge of life, he's attentive, and clean In mind and in heart, strong, with self esteem. Is missed and unnoticed, much more if he's straight. We make him jumps hoops, then we just shut the gate The moral, protective and faithful counterpart We moan of his absence, yet ridicule his path To be what we want, yet a threat to our craft So many women go for the rough, rogue retard Who's good looking, ill-mannered, a cool, slick upstart, Aloof and quite selfish, seeing all females as tarts Has modern ethos of woman completely denied The men who is honest, steadfast and refined Whose expressions, and moods and handsome face Do not disturb my tranquility, do not leave me frustrate But give me the freedom to be, well, just me Progressing and growing, fulfilled and complete He is peaceful with dignity and happy to wait For the love he so desire to give just him a break Stop eroding the qualities of these valued men With back handed quips that perceive him as fake. That say he's not needed, required or even attained Are we women alone happy, to take all of the strains? We are able and ready to stand with our pride And some times we have to, when 'love' takes a dive As mothers and lovers, we manage lives and create The places of safety, the keepers of pains We play down the importance of men who might be By our side, or our mentor, our supporter, our key Unlocking deep emotions of passions, and dreams And in seeing our weakness, and not being pristine The movies and media makes gallant men weak If they're not blow up people and full of mystique Showing villains and criminals as hero's to boot Who wins hearts when seen as "just misunderstood" Brainwashing that leaves us as only to blame When we realize its all just a Hollywood game We think that true gallantry live only in books For the gallant man is real, if we care to just look. Claudia Thomas Barber 2015 |
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Do You Believe In LOVE??
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Do I believe in LOVE??? Absolutely.
failed relationships, broken hearts, or any other unfortunate experience in the acts of love, is no reason not to believe in it. That saying "Love Hurts" is totally untrue. |
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Nice little landing strip. Now a question, ladies. If a guy has hair on his chest, abs, etc. Don't you think it looks kind of goofy, if he has the pubic region clean shaven? Yes .. that what I said on the first page: I'm still not used to men being completely shaven It's kinda okay if they have no or little chest hair, but if they got a nice enticing treasure trail that you want to lick to the end... it suddenly stops... leaving you confused with no clues where to go next ... I prefer trimmed to be neat on a guy YEAH!!!! |
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Do you prefer
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shaved or natural? On private parts lol I would not like to find a man completely hairless down there. What is it with this trend of making us all like pre-pubescent children??? I can cope with a bit of hair in the mouth, goodness me. And I would not want a man who needed me completely hairless either. Clean, neat and trim is enough. All this nonsense about it being 'cleaner' the porn industry have made it an expectation for us all now. Give me a hairy man any day. LOL. |
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One thing I'll never understand about these monsters is, How can a God that made the earth with all its beauty with trees and flowers and oceans and whales and dolphins and fish and all the animals like Elephants and lions and the skies with clouds and sunshine and all the beauty of nature, how can this same God want so much anger and pain caused by his followers on this wonder that he created It just doesn't make sense. Which leads me to believe that these monsters are stupid. it's not "god", even if i believed there was one.... it's just people being fed bad information about god, and being trained from birth about how their god is... any bible isn't like what those "monsters" believe, no matter the religion, it's what they are taught while growing up... I totally agree mightymoe |
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absolutely spent... . like if I was an orange ,you could not squeeze !.one more drop of juice out of me..... seriously you could squeeze me all day..ok.. probably .not all day.. but at least for an hour... and no nothing.... the orange is still firm.. just no juice.... tapped out..... . oh my God ... must I put a sexual spin on everything.... Hmm..yes..lol. Laughing, and happy I popped in |
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what is the meaning of life?
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is it more than being better than nonexistence, the good things seem to be in balance with the bad. if there is no bad would life seem too short, or no good make it seem too long, why are we here and why are we the only species to question existence and try to improve upon it with things like technology and religion. animals don't build rockets or telescopes to see beyond this planet but we do, has curiosity replaced our survival instincts? Because they know it doesn't matter what we know of outside this world. Nothing of it will change our lives here on this world. They spend their time doing more valuable things like surviving and improving their existence on this world. And without the bad, how could you appreciate the good? We would never know what good is without first knowing what bad is. Because without bad, there is no good. Have you ever seen a baby smile? They know good long before they have any idea what bad is. Good and bad do not compliment each other they oppose each other, but clearly one can exist without the other. Great example about the baby, I totally agree good can, and did exist, without evil for a short time. The account in Genesis shows how humans where happy knowing just good before they were influenced to believe the lie that God was denying them the power to be like Him. This lie continues up to this day where humans are offered fame, riches, power, in exchange for doing worldly, and often debasing things (which is a way of giving Satan worship and just like he tried to tempt Jesus with) satan...so why is he considered bad? was god that jealous? I am not sure how God would be jealous of Satan? If God created a living, conciseness 'machine' which we (and those in other realm/dimensions are part of this 'machine'), and in order for this 'machine' to operate, smoothly, in justice and fairness for ALL, God would have to take steps to deal with those who use their free will egotistically and dishonestly. The word used in the bible that says He, God, is a jealous god, is not in the same way we understand human jealousy. We all have a part to play, and the freedom to express ourselves and be also creative, but we cannot take what is not ours. That is called stealing, and is punishable in our worldly laws. Satan is not human, and has free will as well as exceptional abilities. But I get your meaning. If he was perfectly made why did he become bad? what, if anything, influenced him? Our free will gives us the option to choose bad. An injection of true evil came into humanity at some stage and has poisoned us all.... yet we can still choose to turn away from it and choose to do good. oh wow!!! maybe cowboy was right. |
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what is the meaning of life?
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A baby's first smile is thought to be innate .. A reflex .. From the age of 2 months it becomes a learned response to stimuli but not until the brain and cognitive function develop does it become a voluntary emotion. What is life .. The mind The same reason why animals do not build rocket ships or seek other worlds .. Their intelligence has not yet evolved to allow them that gift I see your point, but is it not still scientifically agreed that humans learn and are influenced to become evil, hatfil and hurt others.(not included mental/emotionally /chemical imbalances and dysfunction)? |
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what is the meaning of life?
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is it more than being better than nonexistence, the good things seem to be in balance with the bad. if there is no bad would life seem too short, or no good make it seem too long, why are we here and why are we the only species to question existence and try to improve upon it with things like technology and religion. animals don't build rockets or telescopes to see beyond this planet but we do, has curiosity replaced our survival instincts? Because they know it doesn't matter what we know of outside this world. Nothing of it will change our lives here on this world. They spend their time doing more valuable things like surviving and improving their existence on this world. And without the bad, how could you appreciate the good? We would never know what good is without first knowing what bad is. Because without bad, there is no good. Have you ever seen a baby smile? They know good long before they have any idea what bad is. Good and bad do not compliment each other they oppose each other, but clearly one can exist without the other. Great example about the baby, I totally agree good can, and did exist, without evil for a short time. The account in Genesis shows how humans where happy knowing just good before they were influenced to believe the lie that God was denying them the power to be like Him. This lie continues up to this day where humans are offered fame, riches, power, in exchange for doing worldly, and often debasing things (which is a way of giving Satan worship and just like he tried to tempt Jesus with) |
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This is a tough one for me personally, because I left my marriage after 24 years. He is not a Christian, which is no excuse, but the mental torment left me ready to attempt to take my own life on 3 occasions. I still feel huge amount of guilt about it (leaving and those attempts on my life, even though I was suffering deep depression at the time). I have chose to be single, but my weak spirit moves me to want that happy and fulfilling marriage, with someone else. I would love a Christian man but would not want to jeopardize his salvation by being with me. If I find a non-Christian man and my love of Christ moved him to become Christian, again, I would jeopardize his salvation. I pray on it constantly, and ask anyone who loves Christ to pray for Me too. Thanks
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There's still a margin of time from Jesus' birth to his death that would be unaccounted for. Jesus physically died at age 33 and a half years. Yep, and there's a large portion of Jesus' life that isn't recorded. The bible isn't a diary of God's. It only contains the information needed along the lines of salvation. You would need a fork lift to move the bible if it contrained a copy of all the scriptures we have. Plus would be that much more if none essential things were included that did not pertain to salvation as that is namely what the bible is for. I totally agree cowboygh |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Science is not real. It is only current. The theories today. Tomorrow they will discover that it was not what they believed because we are dissolving new fact about everything, all the time. The arrogance of human knowledge or understanding blows my mind. The parables are not real. They are parables, stories to teach a principal or idea. We don't put faith in the people of myths, it is an account of an oral history like All ancient histories Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death. Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death It is real, but not expressed as most Christians think of it and or most churches preach about it as. Hell is the grave. It's not a big huge firey cave under the ground where Satan hangs out. Hell is a temporary holding place awaiting judgement. That's why hell will gave up it's dead come judgement and why it refers to Jesus as going to hell after he was crucified. Revelation 20:13 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Matthew 12:40 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The word 'hell' comes from 'Hades' meaning grave. The concept of people being tortured forever is from Greek mythology, which believed in a place called 'Tartarus' which does seem to fit a place where the wicked go and its a prison for the Titans. I understand that when the word 'Hades' was translated into Greek, the mythology associated with Tartarus came with it. Then Christian leaders and churches used it to scare people into believing. It is 'hellish' enough that we already live in a world of torment Existence with God, after this is done away with, is so amazing that we cannot even perceive it full. The bible does give examples of a place where Satan, his followers and some false prophet/preaches and I would imagine those who knowingly lead millions to their death with lies, its called the abyss. But this concept that all those not meeting Christ will be burning, conscious of this, in pain for ever IS A LIE, as far as I can see |
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Fear of displeasing God is healthy, and only scary if you do not understand what LOVE is.
We live in a terrible condition, our world ravaged by all sorts of pain and fears, killings, disgusting treatment of human being to another, death and suffering. Most people, even Christians who should know better say. "Why did God make it so?". When did God make it? He gave us, humans, free will and everything we needed to live happy and abundantly. All he asked was that we follow the law, Why do people act as if He asked us to do something bad?? Do we not expect every one to follow laws of the land, today, so that order and fairness prevails???) at that time in our existence, was not many laws to follow. Eating from an actual forbidden tree might have been the crime, or it might be an analogy for something. The point is we humans choose then, that we would not follow Gods law, but create our own. So we did, and this is the result. But God provided us the chance to still follow Him. So that when this time has run its course, (because it was mot just humans who went against God but some of those in the supernatural realm, who have a great hold and influence on things here. |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Science is not real. It is only current. The theories today. Tomorrow they will discover that it was not what they believed because we are dissolving new fact about everything, all the time. The arrogance of human knowledge or understanding blows my mind. The parables are not real. They are parables, stories to teach a principal or idea. We don't put faith in the people of myths, it is an account of an oral history like All ancient histories Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death. |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have many facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith, (in God the Father, and his Son Yeshua/Jesus establishing a personal relationship and being motivate and guided by them through prayer and faith in the reality and power of them) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? Which is controlled by nations and conglomerates and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet. When scientists discover things that nation leaders and big business feel will challenge their power or profits they supress it by, character assassinate the scientists, supress patents, cancel funding, media blitz to discredit it, the list goes on. How is history and science any better than religion to believe in, or to guide you in truth? |
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