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I've tried searching online but couldn't find the answer. Also, when was Islam invented? Thanks
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science |
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Good answer, couldn't have said it better myself.
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From Wikipedia
Christianity began as a Second Temple Judaic sect in the mid-1st century. Originating in the Levant region of the Middle East, it quickly spread to Europe, Syria, Mesopotamia, Asia Minor, and Egypt. It grew in size and influence over a few centuries, and by the end of the 4th century had become the official state church of the Roman Empire, replacing other forms of religion practiced under Roman rule.During the Middle Ages, most of the remainder of Europe was Christianized, and adherents were gained in the Middle East, North Africa, Ethiopia, and parts of India.Following the Age of Discovery, Christianity spread to the Americas, Australasia, sub-Saharan Africa, and the rest of the world through missionary work and colonization. Christianity has played a prominent role in the shaping of Western civilization. Worldwide, the three largest groups of Christianity are the Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and the various denominations of Protestantism. The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox patriarchates split from one another in the schism of the 11th century, and Protestantism came into existence during the Reformation of the 16th century, splitting from the Roman Catholic Church According to the traditional Islamic view, the Qur'an (Koran) began with revelations to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel (when he was 40 years old) in 610. The history of the Qur'an began when its verses were revealed to the Muhammad. The rise of Islam began around the time Muslims took flight in the Hijra, moving to Medina Thats why for most of the world this year is 2015 but the Arabic year is 1436 and for Buddhist's calender the current year is 2558 |
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Edited by
JaUkNz
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have many facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith, (in God the Father, and his Son Yeshua/Jesus establishing a personal relationship and being motivate and guided by them through prayer and faith in the reality and power of them) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? Which is controlled by nations and conglomerates and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet. When scientists discover things that nation leaders and big business feel will challenge their power or profits they supress it by, character assassinate the scientists, supress patents, cancel funding, media blitz to discredit it, the list goes on. How is history and science any better than religion to believe in, or to guide you in truth? |
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most scholars believe that Christianity started about 1700 years ago, when Constantin rewrote the bible to better serve his rule...
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most scholars believe that Christianity started about 1700 years ago, when Constantin rewrote the bible to better serve his rule... So whose bible did he rewrite? |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... |
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Edited by
1j9b6c5
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I think the Catholic Church is founded on the teachings of Christ. The Saviour of those who believe, being Jesus Christ, are known as Christians. As to when, I haven't a clue.
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You beat me to the draw pard. I fear God and nothing else because I believe.
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Well BC = Before Christ AD = After Death.
So Christianity started at 0AD or they might consider it 1AD. Not sure if the "years" start at 0 or 1. |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Who has fear? We serve God out of love, because we love him and want to make God happy. There is absolutely no fear actually lol, not of death, not of anything. |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Science is not real. It is only current. The theories today. Tomorrow they will discover that it was not what they believed because we are dissolving new fact about everything, all the time. The arrogance of human knowledge or understanding blows my mind. The parables are not real. They are parables, stories to teach a principal or idea. We don't put faith in the people of myths, it is an account of an oral history like All ancient histories Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death. |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Science is not real. It is only current. The theories today. Tomorrow they will discover that it was not what they believed because we are dissolving new fact about everything, all the time. The arrogance of human knowledge or understanding blows my mind. The parables are not real. They are parables, stories to teach a principal or idea. We don't put faith in the people of myths, it is an account of an oral history like All ancient histories Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death. Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death It is real, but not expressed as most Christians think of it and or most churches preach about it as. Hell is the grave. It's not a big huge firey cave under the ground where Satan hangs out. Hell is a temporary holding place awaiting judgement. That's why hell will gave up it's dead come judgement and why it refers to Jesus as going to hell after he was crucified. Revelation 20:13 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Matthew 12:40 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. |
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Fear of displeasing God is healthy, and only scary if you do not understand what LOVE is.
We live in a terrible condition, our world ravaged by all sorts of pain and fears, killings, disgusting treatment of human being to another, death and suffering. Most people, even Christians who should know better say. "Why did God make it so?". When did God make it? He gave us, humans, free will and everything we needed to live happy and abundantly. All he asked was that we follow the law, Why do people act as if He asked us to do something bad?? Do we not expect every one to follow laws of the land, today, so that order and fairness prevails???) at that time in our existence, was not many laws to follow. Eating from an actual forbidden tree might have been the crime, or it might be an analogy for something. The point is we humans choose then, that we would not follow Gods law, but create our own. So we did, and this is the result. But God provided us the chance to still follow Him. So that when this time has run its course, (because it was mot just humans who went against God but some of those in the supernatural realm, who have a great hold and influence on things here. |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Science is not real. It is only current. The theories today. Tomorrow they will discover that it was not what they believed because we are dissolving new fact about everything, all the time. The arrogance of human knowledge or understanding blows my mind. The parables are not real. They are parables, stories to teach a principal or idea. We don't put faith in the people of myths, it is an account of an oral history like All ancient histories Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death. Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death It is real, but not expressed as most Christians think of it and or most churches preach about it as. Hell is the grave. It's not a big huge firey cave under the ground where Satan hangs out. Hell is a temporary holding place awaiting judgement. That's why hell will gave up it's dead come judgement and why it refers to Jesus as going to hell after he was crucified. Revelation 20:13 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Matthew 12:40 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. yeh,right,ever looked at the Anatomy of a Whale? |
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Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Science is not real. It is only current. The theories today. Tomorrow they will discover that it was not what they believed because we are dissolving new fact about everything, all the time. The arrogance of human knowledge or understanding blows my mind. The parables are not real. They are parables, stories to teach a principal or idea. We don't put faith in the people of myths, it is an account of an oral history like All ancient histories Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death. Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death It is real, but not expressed as most Christians think of it and or most churches preach about it as. Hell is the grave. It's not a big huge firey cave under the ground where Satan hangs out. Hell is a temporary holding place awaiting judgement. That's why hell will gave up it's dead come judgement and why it refers to Jesus as going to hell after he was crucified. Revelation 20:13 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Matthew 12:40 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. |
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Yawn!! Yet another brainwashed biblethumper, throwing his beliefs down others throats? Not throwing anything down anyone's throats. This is the "General Religion Chat". If you don't believe in that "General Religion" of whatever religion may be in discussion in the thread in question. Why would you go there to chat in it? Or if you didn't wish to hear other's chat about their belief in align of that which the topic is, why would you go to the thread? Christianity was formed to control that part of the population not willing to follow the control of the hierarchy or belief of the time. Early man needed a god or gods to believe in with the power to rise them above the bonds of servitude to the human slave masters. A hope..... or faith. Christianity is one of over 2000 religions that have been tried in the world. As man has spread his wings over the years and become continental in his travels religions have either grown or fallen to conquest. Most "christian" religions stem from the teachings of the Catholic church while Islam stemmed from the Moors, both big on conquest and gaining new power, wealth, and lands. The Crusades were a game changer. The mixing and building of nations under the rule of kings and Warlords. The Euro Christians, under the "Divine" guidance of the Catholic church, had the wealth and advantage of the conquests. Some would say they were more greedy than the scattered hordes of the Moors..... a desert and plains people, not prone to over population in centralized cultural centers, or bond by one teaching. They acquired ship builders, scholars, engineers, siege engines, metal technologies, and then gained gun powder from trade and conquest of the Asian territories. It was the Christian King, King James, who ordered the "Bible" transcribed from scrolls (the popular bible transcription). It was carried by such groups as the Knights Templar, the Free Masons who built the temples, and the slaves of conquest who erected them the world over. However, it is said that only a portion was allowed to be printed and there is controversy over "books" left from the printed text..... the book of Enoch, Noah's father, for instance. The Catholic church has long horded and concealed the wealth and knowledge of the world, gaining the power of the Vatican, gifted by Kings and Queens, to become a nation unto itself, set above even governments the world over. I have no belief any longer in religion teachings, but history I do. I was raised with a firm belief in the bible, read and studied, my parents were missionaries of a form and even started a couple of churches in towns we lived in. I don't recommend anyone quote me on this, or even agree or believe. Faith is a personal issue, and it works for some, but all throughout history there is enough evidence to show what has transpired in the name of christianity...... and Islam..... I'll take my chances with science You seem to have the facts on point as far as I understand. You can see the difference between religion (putting faith in an institution of human making and reason which goes against the very doctrine they claim to believe), and faith (establishing a personal relationship with a higher conciseness and allowing it to motivate and guide) I don't get how, if you understand this you can put belief in history? - which is manipulated and retold by whoever is in power, or by whatever nation is telling it, to control and motive people to believe whatever version they want and then used to justify patriotic murder of others? The internet has proven that, with the mountain of untold histories/top secret info that had been supressed, and later released. (and I don't mean conspiracy theories) AND science? which has, and is doing much of the same, producing some of the most hideously destructive, and poisonous inventions to humankind and our planet? How is history and science any better than religion? science is real, history texts can differ just as much as future texts... history is written by the winners, so history, like religion, can be altered to make it easier for the rulers to control better... religion is mostly parables and myths, the people are easier to control when they have fear... fear of god, death, hell and not going to heaven... they do what they have to do to get to heaven, no questions need to be asked... Science is not real. It is only current. The theories today. Tomorrow they will discover that it was not what they believed because we are dissolving new fact about everything, all the time. The arrogance of human knowledge or understanding blows my mind. The parables are not real. They are parables, stories to teach a principal or idea. We don't put faith in the people of myths, it is an account of an oral history like All ancient histories Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death. Hell is not real and not biblically expressed in the way the church teaches, but an analogy of the state one could be in, cut off, permanently, without God, which the religion/church uses to control, Not God. God gave us all free choice, death or life. Eternal torment is not death It is real, but not expressed as most Christians think of it and or most churches preach about it as. Hell is the grave. It's not a big huge firey cave under the ground where Satan hangs out. Hell is a temporary holding place awaiting judgement. That's why hell will gave up it's dead come judgement and why it refers to Jesus as going to hell after he was crucified. Revelation 20:13 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Matthew 12:40 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. |
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Well BC = Before Christ AD = After Death. So Christianity started at 0AD or they might consider it 1AD. Not sure if the "years" start at 0 or 1. While B.C. does stand for 'Before Christ.' A.D. is Latin for Anno Domini, which implies from the assumed date of the birth of Jesus on Earth. Islam's format introduced to Mohammad starts in the early part of the 7th century. |
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Well BC = Before Christ AD = After Death. So Christianity started at 0AD or they might consider it 1AD. Not sure if the "years" start at 0 or 1. While B.C. does stand for 'Before Christ.' A.D. is Latin for Anno Domini, which implies from the assumed date of the birth of Jesus on Earth. Islam's format introduced to Mohammad starts in the early part of the 7th century. Anno Domini (AD or A.D.) and Before Christ (BC or B.C.) are designations used to label or number years used with the Julian and Gregorian calendars. The term Anno Domini is Medieval Latin, translated as In the year of the Lord,[1] and as in the Year of Our Lord.[2][3]:782 It is sometimes specified more fully as Anno Domini Nostri Iesu (Jesu) Christi ("In the Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ"). This calendar era is based on the traditionally reckoned year of the conception or birth of Jesus of Nazareth, with AD counting years from the start of this epoch, and BC denoting years before the start of the era. There is no year zero in this scheme, so the year AD 1 immediately follows the year 1 BC. This dating system was devised in 525, but was not widely used until after 800.[4] Epoch - particular period of time marked by distinctive features, events So regardless if it actually means "after death" AD doesn't start till after Jesus' crucifiction, so it's just easier to remember "After death" lol |
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