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Topic: can anybody prove to me a GOD??
jrbogie's photo
Mon 11/30/09 05:54 AM


without quoting scripture or the bible, ++ I am serious>, ty ted


Can you prove there's not a God?


each of the above questions are equally absurd.

jrbogie's photo
Mon 11/30/09 06:00 AM


without quoting scripture or the bible, ++ I am serious>, ty ted


I thinks it's simple...

Something cannot come from nothing. Someone (or something, however you see it), had to create it.


oh really? prove that something cannot come from nothing then. prove that someone or something had to create it.

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Mon 11/30/09 12:14 PM



without quoting scripture or the bible, ++ I am serious>, ty ted


I thinks it's simple...

Something cannot come from nothing. Someone (or something, however you see it), had to create it.


oh really? prove that something cannot come from nothing then. prove that someone or something had to create it.


To use your own words....




each of the above questions are equally absurd.



Dan99's photo
Mon 11/30/09 12:49 PM
Do you believe in God?

If you believe in him, then your belief is enough proof to you.


HuckleberryFinn's photo
Mon 11/30/09 02:23 PM
if you had proof would there be a need for FAITH...hmmmmmmm

what proof do you have that the next gulp of air will allow you to live a few more seconds...none, ok that's 50 bucks and I don't accept checks...lmao

Dragoness's photo
Mon 11/30/09 02:37 PM

nope

if you want to believe you will

if you don't want to believe you won't

its up to the individual to decide which is worse,

living your life as if there is no God and finding out there is one

or living your life as if there is a God and finding out there isnt


Actually if it is the Christian god, neither of these choices is worse. That god says that non belief is not a sin that is punishable by not being allowed in heaven. So if you live a good life both of those choices will be the same result.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 11/30/09 02:40 PM
I can assure you that if there would be gods, there would have to be more than one, rule of nature, they would not not be anything like any of the man made creations of them at all.

Because there is no proof of god, I cannot say that they exist. I have yet to see proof that they are more than a figment of man's imagination.


CowboyGH's photo
Mon 11/30/09 02:57 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 11/30/09 02:58 PM
someone can't "prove" there is a God. We need to have faith in him, and have faith he will take care of us. He is everywhere, everything, and everyone. There is no way to prove God to you for another reason as well, knowing God is a choice you have to make and faith in God. You have to be open minded and pray to God and ask him for the answeres you seek. God draws nigh to you if you draw nigh to him.

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Mon 11/30/09 03:30 PM
Edited by Wannatalkk on Mon 11/30/09 03:31 PM
I think it is possible to prove there is God but first could you explain what do you think God is ? Because I think you have no idea.:smile:

The byble says very little about what/who God is and that it's why almost nobody can find the answer to your question there in my opinion.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 11/30/09 04:18 PM
look around you.. Look at at people in particular. DNA has to be so correct for everything to work right.

The world has to be exactly this far from the sun. the antients refered to our atmoshere as being in a tent and we are as grasshoppers.

All this did not happen by a bunch of rocks colliding and it all became.

If you believe that go create you own world take some rocks and click them together and see if something more intelligent than you becomes of them.


No we have a creator of all things. One who created the Stars the galaxies the sun and the moon. All for our pleasure.

Thats whats hard to comprehend is when you look out into the sky all that was created for us.

Everything you see is for us. Manmade things can not come close.

We can see the Great pyramid and the Statues in Rome and all the antient cultures who's buildings which is a part of them.

Yet today if a building last 100 years it is an antique.Why?

Because we have forgotten our creator and the mysteries that are passed down through the ages for our good we have said no. It has no use.

We are to educated for that nonsence but yet we can not build the Great Pyramid.

If we would stick to what our forfathers warned us to stick to.We would look at things differently and be happier..and maybe know the secrets that have been lost.

That book called the Scriptures or the Word of Yahweh is not old no it is far advanced we just are rebellious and think we know more than they did 1000's of years ago when they Revered Yahweh and knew of his awesome Power.. Blessings of Shalom...Miles

Foliel's photo
Mon 11/30/09 07:06 PM
Edited by Foliel on Mon 11/30/09 07:08 PM
So where is this creator, now that we are wrecking his/her planet?
Where is the creator when we have several species of animals on the endangered species list?

I would imagine, the creator would get highly ticked off that we humans are wrecking his/her design......

Personally I could care less about this arguement, I will live my life according to what my mom taught me when i was growing up. Amazingly, even as an atheist, I follow the law, without some book to guide me. I know the difference between right and wrong and i don't need religion to tell me that.

I would just like to know what this creator is doing while we wreck his/her planet...

CowboyGH's photo
Mon 11/30/09 07:12 PM

So where is this creator, now that we are wrecking his/her planet?
Where is the creator when we have several species of animals on the endangered species list?

I would imagine, the creator would get highly ticked off that we humans are wrecking his/her design......

Personally I could care less about this arguement, I will live my life according to what my mom taught me when i was growing up. Amazingly, even as an atheist, I follow the law, without some book to guide me. I know the difference between right and wrong and i don't need religion to tell me that.

I would just like to know what this creator is doing while we wreck his/her planet...


and we will all be judged on how we were in our lives. Wether that was wreching the planet or any other. They/we will have to answere up for what we have done in our lives.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 11/30/09 07:33 PM
Yes, I can prove it.

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 11/30/09 07:49 PM

look around you.. Look at at people in particular. DNA has to be so correct for everything to work right.

The world has to be exactly this far from the sun. the antients refered to our atmoshere as being in a tent and we are as grasshoppers.

All this did not happen by a bunch of rocks colliding and it all became.

If you believe that go create you own world take some rocks and click them together and see if something more intelligent than you becomes of them.


No we have a creator of all things. One who created the Stars the galaxies the sun and the moon. All for our pleasure.

Thats whats hard to comprehend is when you look out into the sky all that was created for us.

Everything you see is for us. Manmade things can not come close.

We can see the Great pyramid and the Statues in Rome and all the antient cultures who's buildings which is a part of them.

Yet today if a building last 100 years it is an antique.Why?

Because we have forgotten our creator and the mysteries that are passed down through the ages for our good we have said no. It has no use.

We are to educated for that nonsence but yet we can not build the Great Pyramid.

If we would stick to what our forfathers warned us to stick to.We would look at things differently and be happier..and maybe know the secrets that have been lost.

That book called the Scriptures or the Word of Yahweh is not old no it is far advanced we just are rebellious and think we know more than they did 1000's of years ago when they Revered Yahweh and knew of his awesome Power.. Blessings of Shalom...Miles

Many answers...happy
so then...

who created the Abyss he moved upon?bigsmile

Carrie748's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:22 PM

without quoting scripture or the bible, ++ I am serious>, ty ted


If you are really serious. Go some place and ask Him to show Himself to you. He will. God isn't offended by those truly looking and wanting to know the truth. He will give you an answer that will leave no doubts

no photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:53 PM

without quoting scripture or the bible, ++ I am serious>, ty ted
YES,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Just DIE,,,,,,wink...
DEATH,,,,,will show you, that in which you SEEK...

Other-than-THAT,,,,,,YOU will only FIND,,,,,what YOU REALLY, seek,

To FIND!!!!!:heart:

I heard a fella singing a song the other day,,,He said, he found HIM on a corner,,and bummed a smoke from him????

MAYBE???????? wink,:heart: :wink: :smile: smokin

Dan99's photo
Mon 11/30/09 10:54 PM


nope

if you want to believe you will

if you don't want to believe you won't

its up to the individual to decide which is worse,

living your life as if there is no God and finding out there is one

or living your life as if there is a God and finding out there isnt


Actually if it is the Christian god, neither of these choices is worse. That god says that non belief is not a sin that is punishable by not being allowed in heaven. So if you live a good life both of those choices will be the same result.


Are you sure? Didnt the Christian God say that all heathens should be stoned to death and will burn in hell?


msharmony's photo
Tue 12/01/09 12:11 AM



nope

if you want to believe you will

if you don't want to believe you won't

its up to the individual to decide which is worse,

living your life as if there is no God and finding out there is one

or living your life as if there is a God and finding out there isnt


Actually if it is the Christian god, neither of these choices is worse. That god says that non belief is not a sin that is punishable by not being allowed in heaven. So if you live a good life both of those choices will be the same result.


Are you sure? Didnt the Christian God say that all heathens should be stoned to death and will burn in hell?




Doubt it,, dont even think the word heathen is in the bible.

HuckleberryFinn's photo
Tue 12/01/09 04:12 AM
goyum

^is the correct term translated from Hebrew, but no it is non existent in the translated bible, maybe the concordance

A gentile is a pagan or a heathen or some one who is not a Yahudi or a Christian.

^also this definition is in some bible dictionary's

no photo
Tue 12/01/09 08:16 AM


without quoting scripture or the bible, ++ I am serious>, ty ted


I thinks it's simple...

Something cannot come from nothing. Someone (or something, however you see it), had to create it.


if something can not come from nothing then that in itself disproves the existence of God


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