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Quite simple I think, it doesn't. Without man to calculate time from sun to sun time does not in fact exist, the end of time is the end of days, thus the end of man. Ah, but the only reason you think that is because we are unable to measure time without motion. Lets say everything in the universe stopped moving, everything stopped changing, the movement of the planets, the sun, every molecule was frozen, would time not pass until it becomes unfrozen? What I'm saying is if we end, time ends. We make time by the changeing of a clock or the movement of a hand, without us there is no time. We end, time in fact ends. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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There has been some talk about what will happen on December 12, 2012 which is the end of the Mayan calendar. Personally I think it is the end of the age of Pisces, but that is just one idea.
What happens on that date from what I have read is that the sun reaches the galactic equator of the milky way (our galaxy) and it crosses over to the other side of the galaxy, which is the lighter side. We will see this happen less than 4 years. Another thing that some say has happened is that the earth's axis has shifted from an angle of 23.5 to 49.5. http://www.divulgence.net/ Has anyone noticed the sunrise coming up in just a little bit different spot?? Okay, perhaps the earth is adjusting in preparation for the crossover to the other side of the galaxy.... In any case, the mystery of 2012 and the earth's cross over to the other side of the galaxy is something that we all will get to witness. JB |
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Ok feel free to completely shoot this down as I am more than slightly inebriated right now but here goes... Here is my theory: We are all a part of the universe and the universe itself is exploring itself in the age old question of "Why Am I Here?" so each of us as part of that same universe is a result of the universe probing that question. In essence we are all a part of the same being exploring itself and the sum of our experiences totaled together will result in the answer to that age old question. We are all part of the same being looking to perfect itself and the only way that being can do that is through repeated trial and error (us and pretty much any other life form or physical being in existence.) A bit out there for me to truly see, but it is worth exploreing more. So I will do so. |
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Shoemakers "Zone" argument
http://www.philosophy.ubc.ca/faculty/savitt/Courses/Phil%20340A/Time%20Without%20Change%20(Short).pdf This is only pieces of the argument, i couldnt find the full text |
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Quite simple I think, it doesn't. Without man to calculate time from sun to sun time does not in fact exist, the end of time is the end of days, thus the end of man. Ah, but the only reason you think that is because we are unable to measure time without motion. Lets say everything in the universe stopped moving, everything stopped changing, the movement of the planets, the sun, every molecule was frozen, would time not pass until it becomes unfrozen? What I'm saying is if we end, time ends. We make time by the changeing of a clock or the movement of a hand, without us there is no time. We end, time in fact ends. So you're saying that no time existed during the prehistorics? |
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And I may not have said it right, given my currently inebriated state, but I feel the "gist", so to speak, is there.
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There has been some talk about what will happen on December 12, 2012 which is the end of the Mayan calendar. Personally I think it is the end of the age of Pisces, but that is just one idea. What happens on that date from what I have read is that the sun reaches the galactic equator of the milky way (our galaxy) and it crosses over to the other side of the galaxy, which is the lighter side. We will see this happen less than 4 years. Another thing that some say has happened is that the earth's axis has shifted from an angle of 23.5 to 49.5. http://www.divulgence.net/ Has anyone noticed the sunrise coming up in just a little bit different spot?? Okay, perhaps the earth is adjusting in preparation for the crossover to the other side of the galaxie.... In any case, the mystery of 2012 and the earth's cross over to the other side of the galaxy is something that we all will get to witness. JB December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. |
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December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. Wow. 
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Quite simple I think, it doesn't. Without man to calculate time from sun to sun time does not in fact exist, the end of time is the end of days, thus the end of man. Ah, but the only reason you think that is because we are unable to measure time without motion. Lets say everything in the universe stopped moving, everything stopped changing, the movement of the planets, the sun, every molecule was frozen, would time not pass until it becomes unfrozen? What I'm saying is if we end, time ends. We make time by the changeing of a clock or the movement of a hand, without us there is no time. We end, time in fact ends. So you're saying that no time existed during the prehistorics? Time was incalculable at that point in time, think about it. Time is dependant on the bible hence B.C. and A.D. (Before.Christ. and After.Death.). This taken into consideration with the primal instinct of dinosaurs rather than a logical perspective can't give them the ability to tell time, we as humans can only go off of approximate times for the dinosaurs hence approximately 12 million years and etc. We tell time, we cease to exist time ceases to exist. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 03/18/08 01:20 AM
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There has been some talk about what will happen on December 12, 2012 which is the end of the Mayan calendar. Personally I think it is the end of the age of Pisces, but that is just one idea. What happens on that date from what I have read is that the sun reaches the galactic equator of the milky way (our galaxy) and it crosses over to the other side of the galaxy, which is the lighter side. We will see this happen less than 4 years. Another thing that some say has happened is that the earth's axis has shifted from an angle of 23.5 to 49.5. http://www.divulgence.net/ Has anyone noticed the sunrise coming up in just a little bit different spot?? Okay, perhaps the earth is adjusting in preparation for the crossover to the other side of the galaxie.... In any case, the mystery of 2012 and the earth's cross over to the other side of the galaxy is something that we all will get to witness. JB December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. So you are thinking that it may happen before December 21 2012? If the earth keeps tilting, (indeed if it has tilted) then this could be a possibility. I so hate the cold. |
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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time
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December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. Wow.
I'm sorry, are you disagreeing with my post or in "awe" of it haha. |
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hours, days etc are times mankind invented. time doesn't have to be labeled.
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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time But on the flip side of that, no form of life (human vs. animal) probably perceives time the same way. Of course there's no way to actually prove that (unless you could read the minds of animals, plants, et all.) but that's my theory. |
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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time Time can only be appreciated by those who understand it. |
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Edited by
wiley
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Tue 03/18/08 01:22 AM
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December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. Wow.
I'm sorry, are you disagreeing with my post or in "awe" of it haha. In awe. I've heard of us going into a new ice age before, but I seriously have my doubts that it will be in any of our lifetimes. |
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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time But on the flip side of that, no form of life (human vs. animal) probably perceives time the same way. Of course there's no way to actually prove that (unless you could read the minds of animals, plants, et all.) but that's my theory.  see my post on top of yours. I don't think "time" can be measured. Mankind put labels on time frames for clarification and to make things easier
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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time But on the flip side of that, no form of life (human vs. animal) probably perceives time the same way. Of course there's no way to actually prove that (unless you could read the minds of animals, plants, et all.) but that's my theory. No human perceives time the same way. Each is said to have their own space time field. |
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Edited by
wiley
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Tue 03/18/08 01:23 AM
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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time But on the flip side of that, no form of life (human vs. animal) probably perceives time the same way. Of course there's no way to actually prove that (unless you could read the minds of animals, plants, et all.) but that's my theory. see my post on top of yours. I don't think "time" can be measured. Mankind put labels on time frames for clarification and to make things easier
Well obviously I missed that. 
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