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I'm not sure what to think about any of it. I've had all sorts of different viewpoints shoved in my face about end times, but I still just don't know. We all die sometime, and we all have difficult trials in our lives at one time or another (of course some have WAY more than others). I just hope in my heart that in the end, I'll be considered a good person and that I've set some type of good example in my life.
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"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive & well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand--strawberries & chocolate in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out & screaming "WOO HOO - WHAT A RIDE!" " LOL end of times hell i am just starting to have fun lol 
I may misunderstand your statement, but I in no way put it out as a journey as arriving safely. No doubt it will be a surprise to us all, however is it that out there of a thought to think? |
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Edited by
muntjack
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 ethnicity and race are synonymous, don't write above and beyond your own vocabulary, makes you sound like an open mouth breather (unintelligent)
I'm sorry? Are you saying that at the end of times race and ethnicity will be a factor in our dispersion? I'm not a racist, nor am I unintelligent. Perhaps you misread my words? |
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I'm not sure what to think about any of it. I've had all sorts of different viewpoints shoved in my face about end times, but I still just don't know. We all die sometime, and we all have difficult trials in our lives at one time or another (of course some have WAY more than others). I just hope in my heart that in the end, I'll be considered a good person and that I've set some type of good example in my life.
Cheers! That is an excellent viewpoint to have.
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A scourge maybe. But without us, wouldn't some species also cease to exist? What of the scavengers who thrive off of our refuse? Where would they go to forage for food without our garbage to eat off of? Wherever they did, before we encompassed their natural habitat, and food sources. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they didn't exist before we did. Scavengers? Rats? Vultures? WHat type of scavenger? Surely you are not so unsure of the fact that although rats have co existed beside humans for convenience, and as man has over populated this earth, and consumed vast tracts of land, and resources, these animals did not exist quite well without us? Rats also eat carrion, grain... Vultures have been eating carrion long before we arrived, pigeons, seagulls... what kind of scavengers specifically? What scavengers were around before man that are still around today? |
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ethnicity and race are synonymous, don't write above and beyond your own vocabulary, makes you sound like an open mouth breather (unintelligent)
I'm sorry? Are you saying that at the end of times race and ethnicity will be a factor in our dispersion? I'm not a racist, nor am I unintelligent. Perhaps you misread my words? Perhaps you can explain to me, I've read it...afterall I wrote it, however I do not understand where you get a racist hint out of it. Man no matter race, ethnicity or culture will be killed off EQUALLY. Explain to me, please. |
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You know there is yet another theory that our perception of time is actually reverse of the reality. In other words, we are actually living our lives backwards. We are born when we die, and revert to energy when we are born. Not sure if I buy into that theory, but it is interesting nonetheless.
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If we matter or don't matter has nothing to do if time will end or not. It's relative. If time is supposed to end, it will end either way.
But first you must clarify about what you mean by time. Do you mean the end of existence? Are you proposing time and existence are dependent on each other? Or time dependent on existence? |
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A scourge maybe. But without us, wouldn't some species also cease to exist? What of the scavengers who thrive off of our refuse? Where would they go to forage for food without our garbage to eat off of? Wherever they did, before we encompassed their natural habitat, and food sources. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they didn't exist before we did. Scavengers? Rats? Vultures? WHat type of scavenger? Surely you are not so unsure of the fact that although rats have co existed beside humans for convenience, and as man has over populated this earth, and consumed vast tracts of land, and resources, these animals did not exist quite well without us? Rats also eat carrion, grain... Vultures have been eating carrion long before we arrived, pigeons, seagulls... what kind of scavengers specifically? What scavengers were around before man that are still around today? WIley, why are we having an evolutionary discussion... it is a common scientific fact that the only creature that can be removed from the Earth's ecosystem without causing imbalance....TODAY, right NOW, is humankind. |
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A scourge maybe. But without us, wouldn't some species also cease to exist? What of the scavengers who thrive off of our refuse? Where would they go to forage for food without our garbage to eat off of? Wherever they did, before we encompassed their natural habitat, and food sources. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they didn't exist before we did. Scavengers? Rats? Vultures? WHat type of scavenger? Surely you are not so unsure of the fact that although rats have co existed beside humans for convenience, and as man has over populated this earth, and consumed vast tracts of land, and resources, these animals did not exist quite well without us? Rats also eat carrion, grain... Vultures have been eating carrion long before we arrived, pigeons, seagulls... what kind of scavengers specifically? What scavengers were around before man that are still around today? WIley, why are we having an evolutionary discussion... it is a common scientific fact that the only creature that can be removed from the Earth's ecosystem without causing imbalance....TODAY, right NOW, is humankind. According to who? I've never heard of this "fact." In fact, I've heard quite the opposite. The reduction in pollution alone would make a significant impact on the ecosystem. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 03/18/08 12:34 AM
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fearandloathing, Profile quote:
"Outgoing, blah, blah, blah, all the other stuff you've heard and yadda, yadda, yadda." 
I have to say I love your grim outlook on life and your profile made me laugh. I'm not sure if I was supposed to laugh though, but I did. Is the end of time the same as the end of the world/earth/reality in which we live? Has anyone noticed time speeding up, or is it just me? I think we may be approaching some sort of singularity where time stops ... but I have a hard time understanding that concept. Now is all that really exists. You can't do anything in the past or the future. You have to do it in the present. nothing matters ....  time for bed....
JB |
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If we matter or don't matter has nothing to do if time will end or not. It's relative. If time is supposed to end, it will end either way. But first you must clarify about what you mean by time. Do you mean the end of existence? Are you proposing time and existence are dependent on each other? Or time dependent on existence? Time has always been and will always be dependent on existence, without time existence doesn't have a point. No time equals no existence. |
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A scourge maybe. But without us, wouldn't some species also cease to exist? What of the scavengers who thrive off of our refuse? Where would they go to forage for food without our garbage to eat off of? Wherever they did, before we encompassed their natural habitat, and food sources. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they didn't exist before we did. Scavengers? Rats? Vultures? WHat type of scavenger? Surely you are not so unsure of the fact that although rats have co existed beside humans for convenience, and as man has over populated this earth, and consumed vast tracts of land, and resources, these animals did not exist quite well without us? Rats also eat carrion, grain... Vultures have been eating carrion long before we arrived, pigeons, seagulls... what kind of scavengers specifically? What scavengers were around before man that are still around today? WIley, why are we having an evolutionary discussion... it is a common scientific fact that the only creature that can be removed from the Earth's ecosystem without causing imbalance....TODAY, right NOW, is humankind. I happen to agree with Wiley somewhat on his/her posts, afterall they are examining both sides of the argument and this in fact is what I truly wanted to see out of this topic. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 03/18/08 12:38 AM
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If we matter or don't matter has nothing to do if time will end or not. It's relative. If time is supposed to end, it will end either way. But first you must clarify about what you mean by time. Do you mean the end of existence? Are you proposing time and existence are dependent on each other? Or time dependent on existence? Time has always been and will always be dependent on existence, without time existence doesn't have a point. No time equals no existence. Not true. Time does not exist. This is a fact. Time is completely Dependant on the movement of bodies through space. It is part of a measurement that is used to locate an event within a time space environment. JB |
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wiley
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Tue 03/18/08 12:39 AM
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I happen to agree with Wiley somewhat on his/her posts, afterall they are examining both sides of the argument and this in fact is what I truly wanted to see out of this topic. I would be a he. 
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fearandloathing, Profile quote: "Outgoing, blah, blah, blah, all the other stuff you've heard and yadda, yadda, yadda."
I have to say I love your grim outlook on life and your profile made me laugh. I'm not sure if I was supposed to laugh though, but I did. Is the end of time the same as the end of the world/earth/reality in which we live? Has anyone noticed time speeding up, or is it just me? I think we may be approaching some sort of singularity where time stops ... but I have a hard time understanding that concept. Now is all that really exists. You can't do anything in the past or the future. You have to do it in the present. nothing matters .... time for bed....
JB Yes it was supposed to make you laugh, sarcasm is quite hard to achieve on the internet. The end of time is the end of us as a whole, regardless of race/species/ethnicity/culture, we'll all die at the same time. As I do agree with "today is today" I also have to think "what about the future?". We always have to take into account the future, most of us have offspring that will be comeing of age and it is a frightful experience to not imagine what they will be comeing of age in. |
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i dont have the time for this........
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Not true. Time does not exist. This is a fact. Time is completely Dependant on the movement of bodies through space. It is part of a measurement that is used to locate an event within a time space environment. JB Oh but time does exist. If merely as a perception to those encompassed by it. |
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If we matter or don't matter has nothing to do if time will end or not. It's relative. If time is supposed to end, it will end either way. But first you must clarify about what you mean by time. Do you mean the end of existence? Are you proposing time and existence are dependent on each other? Or time dependent on existence? Time has always been and will always be dependent on existence, without time existence doesn't have a point. No time equals no existence. Not true. Time does not exist. This is a fact. Time is completely Dependant on the movement of bodies through space. It is part of a measurement that is used to locate an event within a time space environment. JB Like I said Time is dependent on man (existence), without man time has no existence and therefore is bound to nothing. |
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Do I worry about my existance on Earth? part of me does because I don't want anything to happen to my loved ones. but because of my believes (and they are just my beliefs so don't try telling me I'm wrong for them) I believe I will see them again. It's more of the fear of the unknown to me. I flip/flop
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