If 'God', Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all connected individuals which total One, is the connector not the true 'God'?

The connector being the Holy Spirit...

Just wondering, I mean if there is one thing that connects 'God' to Jesus it is the Holy Spirit, right?

For one thing to connect two others and make them all One... the connector must be first, mustn't it?

hmm.......when you think about it that DOES make the most sense.....

I think it is more like Jesus and the Holy spirit are actually one dude. If you notice they are never in the same place at the same time. It is like Robin Williams in the Show MRs Doubtfire and he has to be both the male character and Mrs Doubtfire at the same time in that restaurant scene and all hilarity ensues.



Obviously in this scenario Jesus would be the slacker Dad that can't keep a job and the Holy Spirit would be the Fake breasted cross dresser with an english accent.

I look at it like this

We have three parts our mind, our body, and our spirit.

God also has three parts mind (God), body (Jesus), and spirit (the Holy Spirit).

IMO, this is what is meant by when the Bible says God created man in his likeness.

JMO

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Rabbit:

It was a run-by fruiting...

Wouldnt the father, God, be the common denominator? Without God, there would have been no need to send the son...

or did I not understand the question?

It is believed that the Father sent the son. Yet it is also believed that the Spirit connects the two. The connector is the Spirit. That which connects the mind and body.

Spirit must be prior, as mind requires knowledge of experience to consider creating and thereby sending the Son.

Unless, of course 'God' created the Spirit for the purpose of the connection... but then that would not be necessary unless Jesus were not 'God' to begin with. There would be no connection necessary for one with itself, would there?

I'm not sure where you get the "connected" premise. What do you mean by connected? In scripture - it is statedthe Jesus and the Father are "one". This can be a confusing concept. To try and "connect" them into a single entity - being separate parts of a whole - leaves us wanting for some explination of what is lacking in any of the three that needs to be found in the other two. Subjective speculation at best. However if their "oneness" is in essence - that being that none of the three are lacking in any of the qualities one would anticipate "God" to have, than there's no need to seek a "connection". More like mirror images of essence and attributes, rather than a cumulative one.

Hello Eljay:



How are you?

This personified trinity notion has always been logically problematic for me, as a result of the consideration of why it would be necessary to distinguish between the three. Should the essence be of one, then Spirit is the One, I would think.

Spirit is essence, isn't it? That is what I have always believed. Spirit connects man with 'God' also, does it not?

What do you think?

I always took it to mean that although each was a power in it's own right for reverence of equal value they placed them into a trinity. If you separate them with no connections of reverence then people could choose to worship one and not the other. Thus making separate beliefs.

This was my perception.

Of course I always look for the reason behind the information so that is just me.

Creative

Hiya dragoness,



How are you?

The holy spirit is what is in your heart from knowing God, and accepting Jesus Christ as your Living Savior. Then you have God.......who is of course the Mighty Creator and then Jesus Christ who is the son of God.......The one that God was always those most pleased with.....The one who is sinless, the one sent to give all that accept him salvation through and only through His Grace and the shedding of his blood.

I am good Creative How are you?

I am great...

Gotta go and talk to my heart's better half...

G'night!

C.S.

Actually - I'm battling the after affects of the flu - which is whipping around the northeast like a plague. Work has exploded up here (8 movies have and are coming to New England over the next 3 months) which makes the work week 65 hours. (Thus the sudden sporadic-ness of my posting) Thanks for asking.

As to the idea of essence... I don't think the Holy Spirit is the essence of the Father and the Son - but has the exact likeness of them. I sort of view it as a similar concept to the DNA of twins - or in this case - triplets. Though three uniquely different people, triplets have the same DNA. In this way, they are one. Each will go on to have a different and specific purpose in life (this being an attribute of their uniqueness) however their DNA (for the purpose of my analogy - essesnce) is the same, and will always be so.

Thus - the way I think of the Trinity.

As to the "spirit connecting man to God", I tend to take on the Christian perpective of this concept - which I believe to be that the Holy Spirit indwells those who believe in Christ as their savior. It is what "seals" the believer until the day of redemption. I do not see it as the spirit of "God" that most think is in everyone... believer (in christ) atheist, agnostic, etc - alike. This is not what I interpret the Holy Spirit of scripture to be.

Yeah, we had recently been a little sick also, I am sorry for that...

Work booming is a good thing...

We just have a blizzard going on...

Jeez oh pete... some heavy snowfall for sure, something like 8 to 10 inches is about what it looks like right now, and still coming down...

I so dislike winter...


Thank you for your explanation concerning the trinity concept...

yup, I agree

wouldee and Eljay,

I am working on finding a way to not seem as though I am being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative. The notion of comparing the trinity to dna definitely allows one to understand your point(s) of view. As good as the analogy seems to be though, dna implies a source prior from which the dna comes...

As a result of this consideration, although I respect your value placed into what you feel comfortable with, I see that comparison as necessitating the existance of a source of the three, 'God' the Father, 'God' the Son, and 'God' the Holy Spirit...

Which is the Source?

Which came first?

Any analogy can be streched to the point that it breaks. The analogy is intended to convey a concept. If you understand the concept, then the analogy has performed it's function. There is no reason to push the analogy until it breaks and consider that a flaw in the concept which was conveyed. Either the analogy clearly explains how God is three in one or it doesn't. But it's function (or scope) ends there. No further understanding can be gleamed from that analogy, to understand other concepts of God's existance, then additional analogies will be required.