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Topic: The trinity looked at closer...
wouldee's photo
Mon 03/10/08 03:17 PM
Edited by wouldee on Mon 03/10/08 03:22 PM

wouldee and Eljay,

I am working on finding a way to not seem as though I am being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative. The notion of comparing the trinity to dna definitely allows one to understand your point(s) of view. As good as the analogy seems to be though, dna implies a source prior from which the dna comes...

As a result of this consideration, although I respect your value placed into what you feel comfortable with, I see that comparison as necessitating the existance of a source of the three, 'God' the Father, 'God' the Son, and 'God' the Holy Spirit...

Which is the Source?

Which came first?






Creative,

good question.

If we are talking about man and the earth as the creation in question, then I would say the Father.

Reason being, that the Son, Jesus, was sent to wear flesh and tell us that he, Jesus, is the Word.

Then there is the Holy Spirit which delivered him, I assume that is the depiction, and deivered through Him the Word.

But by all the limitations placed subjectively on it, I would say again, the Father since it appears that Jesus speaks only what the Father gives Him to speak.

Then again, one must personally ascertain for oneself whether what Jesus says, or is reputed to have said, is truth.

I believe Him. Everything that I have read about what He has said has in fact happened upon my soul. That being, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It only came because of His attachment to it, in me.

So, by experience, the Son is second in my reality, and the Holy Spirit is third. Again, experientially speaking.

If all three are inseparably one and the same....

....well then....

....lucky me, but luck had nothing to do with it.


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Mon 03/10/08 06:57 PM
The analogy is intended to convey a concept. If you understand the concept, then the analogy has performed it's function.


spider, I acknowledge the usefulness as well as the deficiency, as I understood it from my perspective.

Concerning the above quote:

I had always thought that an analogy is intended to convey an understanding, by a like comparison. The comparing of a known concept to one which is unknown or misunderstood. That comparison should add clarity to that which is in question. Therefore, it was not at all successful for me. I clearly stated why that analogy caused pause or failed to accurately compare the two notions, thereby not adding clarity to my understanding.

Should I not be able to consider that dna is genetically given to one by another(parents), then it fails in my gaining a furthered understanding of the topic at hand, by raising more unanwered questions. Do not get me wrong, I am glad that it works for others. Whatever another gains their truth from I respect. We all place value in that which rings as true, individually speaking, of course.

Thank you for your attempt at helping. flowerforyou




wouldee,

I too have always believed that 'God' the Father, as described in the Bible, would have to have been first... as a result of the progression in logical purpose(s)...

However, I realize that others hold differences in understanding concerning those notions... I just cannot relate to some of which I have heard others claim as their reasons for personal understanding...







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